Can Berman & Braga Be Stopped?

Raoul Duke, Jr. · Post by **Raoul Duke, Jr.** » 2002-10-14 11:41pm

Is there anything Trek fans (or ex-fans) can do to wrench creative control away from Boneless & Brainless? Or at the very least challenge their closed submissions script policy? What can be done to keep Trek alive and nurse it back to health? (Note: this thread is NOT intended to discuss whether the above should be done, only how it might be done.)

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-10-14 11:42pm

yes it should be done, no it will sadly not be done.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-10-14 11:46pm

Don't watch Enterprise.

I've been doing my part!

EmperorMing · Post by **EmperorMing** » 2002-10-15 12:08am

I got a better idea; tell them that there is a new studio location Virginia. Then maybe the sniper will get them...

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-10-15 02:32am

Seriously, the first step for those unhappy with Star Trek as it is, is to simply quite watching. Then quit buying merchandise and write Paramount explaining why. Encourage other fans to do the same thing.

It's either that or a car bomb....

Dennis Toy · Post by **Dennis Toy** » 2002-10-15 03:25am

I got a better idea; tell them that there is a new studio location Virginia. Then maybe the sniper will get them...

Someones been listening to my idea.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2002-10-15 03:52am

Stormbringer wrote:Seriously, the first step for those unhappy with Star Trek as it is, is to simply quite watching. Then quit buying merchandise and write Paramount explaining why. Encourage other fans to do the same thing.

It's either that or a car bomb....

Given this board, I think we can do better thenthat

*Points to the eighteen wheeler gasoline tanker*

EmperorMing · Post by **EmperorMing** » 2002-10-15 04:00am

Dennis Toy wrote:
I got a better idea; tell them that there is a new studio location Virginia. Then maybe the sniper will get them...

Someones been listening to my idea.

Nah, I just used my brain sifter on Mongo...

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 2002-10-15 08:07am

I have already been boycotting Star Trek. It was because of Beavis & Butthead i abandoned ST for SW, all in all SW is way more consistant. The only realy ST worth watchign now is DS9 and only sometimes, Take oout the Defiant, seek out new life and new civilisations, then blow the shit outta it. No diplomacy shit, just kill em all

Post by **weemadando** » 2002-10-15 08:44am

I watched TNG, tried to watch DS9 but couldn't bring myself to continue the torture (it was being screened DIRECTLY after Bab5 on the same network) *edit* (it should be noted that I love Bab5, and that I found that screening DS9 after it was an insult to the intelligence of the viewers and just put a crimp on the whole B5 high) */edit* and despised Voyager for being the steaming pile of rabid capybara faeces it was.

I watch Enterprise because, at the moment, it and Dark Angel are the only two pieces of sci-fi on free-to-air TV in Tasmania.

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2002-10-15 10:41am

Have a Star Trek convention in the D.C. area and hope that sniper picks them both off.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 2002-10-15 12:02pm

EmperorMing wrote:I got a better idea; tell them that there is a new studio location Virginia. Then maybe the sniper will get them...

Noooooooo I live in Northern Virginia!!!!!!1

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2002-10-15 05:05pm

I say you take over the company with military force. Either that or reincarnate Gene Roddenberry so he'll make ST good again. Or, you could get a job at Paramount and rewrite the scripts without them knowing.

Raoul Duke, Jr. · Post by **Raoul Duke, Jr.** » 2002-10-15 05:11pm

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi wrote:I say you take over the company with military force. Either that or reincarnate Gene Roddenberry so he'll make ST good again. Or, you could get a job at Paramount and rewrite the scripts without them knowing.

Let me take over this shit -- I could fix it. Even if I couldn't return it to continuity, I could make it a shitload better than it is now.

Dennis Toy · Post by **Dennis Toy** » 2002-10-16 12:52am

Have a Star Trek convention in the D.C. area and hope that sniper picks them both off.

Why waste his energy... Why not go bigger like having them fly an airplane over DC and hoping andrews find them "lost" and redirecting it using a stinger missile...

Post by **weemadando** » 2002-10-16 01:23am

Point Osama in the direction of the new studios and give him a couple of surplus C-5 galaxies loaded with FAEs.

That should fix one problem.

Vertigo1 · Post by **Vertigo1** » 2002-10-16 02:23am

Wicked Pilot wrote:Have a Star Trek convention in the D.C. area and hope that sniper picks them both off.

The bullet wouldn't even penetrate their uber inflated egos let alone the layer of bullshit that surrounds them.

Dark Primus · Post by **Dark Primus** » 2002-10-16 05:41am

Couldn't we just clone Gene Roddenberry back to life, and let him take control over ST and kick the crap out of Butthead and Butthole?

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-10-16 07:41am

Dark Primus wrote:Couldn't we just clone Gene Roddenberry back to life, and let him take control over ST and kick the crap out of Butthead and Butthole?

The idea is to improve Star Trek, considering the crap Gene Rodenberry turned out when he had complete freedom, I'll pass on that idea.

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2002-10-16 12:14pm

I thought you guys might be interested in these rumors. Some good news, some not so good. A semi-interesting premise for a 6th Trek series with what to me seem liks several bad ideas.

SCIFI2K.COM

Oct 15: Enterprise: Despite some good first season ratings Paramount execs were not happy with the first season of Enterprise, and may want to really bring in some fresh blood (Gee I said this before the series ever premiered) and dump the two morons producers, Brannon & Braga. Unfortunately they aren't looking to replace them until the fourth season, moving them to the new series 6. If it happens it is also to be produced by Jonathan Frakes. Enterprise would replace the producers of Enterprise with a person or persons not involved in Star Trek. Jeez, Paramount should dump Rick Berman as well.

Oct 15: Trek Series 6: Once again the rumor of a new Star Trek series surfaces in the light of Star Trek: Nemesis. The series idea - Captained by a familiar face. Nope, it's not Sulu - but the familiar face of number one, William Riker, accompanied by Troi and a new Federation Starship. Here is the RUMORED storyline for Series 6: The series 'Enterprise' will parallel the formation of the Federation with Series 6's fall of the Federation, in which the UFP will lose over half its territories to a new, completely alien foe that Future Guy works for. The Titan/Mariner, an untested ship, will be in charge of making sure established threats (like the Remans, Borg, and Dominion) don't cause any trouble. One bad point to the new idea is that if Brannon and Braga get the boot from Enterprise after season four they will become producers of this series along with Frakes. The new series would not premiere until after or during season four of Enterprise. Paramount is already in development of the series and has an in-house FX crew touching up the ship created by Digital Domain. (Scott Strout & the Facer)

Post by **Lagmonster** » 2002-10-16 12:36pm

Tsyroc wrote:Here is the RUMORED storyline for Series 6: The series 'Enterprise' will parallel the formation of the Federation with Series 6's fall of the Federation, in which the UFP will lose over half its territories to a new, completely alien foe that Future Guy works for.

Fall of the Federation? New alien foe? Someone tell George to buy the ST franchise immediately! More Stormies in the Federation!

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2002-10-16 03:46pm

Cue the Imperial March!

Dum dum dum DA DA DA DA DA DA dum!

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2002-10-16 03:53pm

To writing to Majael encouraging her to set up her own Star Trek series, via her estate, just put down Based on Gene Roddenberry.

Raoul Duke, Jr. · Post by **Raoul Duke, Jr.** » 2002-10-16 04:35pm

Lagmonster wrote:
Tsyroc wrote:Here is the RUMORED storyline for Series 6: The series 'Enterprise' will parallel the formation of the Federation with Series 6's fall of the Federation, in which the UFP will lose over half its territories to a new, completely alien foe that Future Guy works for.
Fall of the Federation? New alien foe? Someone tell George to buy the ST franchise immediately! More Stormies in the Federation!

What would be the point in that? Trekkies would probably never watch it. Enterprise all over again.

Raoul Duke, Jr. · Post by **Raoul Duke, Jr.** » 2002-10-16 04:39pm

Cyril wrote:Cue the Imperial March!

Dum dum dum DA DA DA DA DA DA dum!

Shouldn't that be: Dum dum dum! Dum DA dum! Dum DA dum!

Sorry.