Aristide Charges the US Ousted Him

jegs2 · Post by **jegs2** » 2004-03-02 12:19am

From this story:

CNN wrote:Former Haitian President Jean-Bertrand Aristide said Monday he was forced to leave Haiti in a "coup d'etat" by the United States.

"I was told that to avoid bloodshed I'd better leave," he said in an interview on CNN.

Earlier, the Bush administration vigorously denied that Aristide was kidnapped by U.S. troops, which is what two U.S. members of Congress said the deposed Haitian president told them in telephone calls.

"That's nonsense," White House press secretary Scott McClellan said. "I've seen some of the reports [and they] do nothing to help the Haitians move forward to a better, more prosperous future."

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2004-03-02 12:26am

Why? What do we have to gain from a coup in a shithole like Haiti?

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2004-03-02 12:28am

That's right, attack your allys...

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-03-02 12:30am

We're allies with Haiti?

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-03-02 12:32am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:We're allies with Haiti?

Well, we did help Aristide get back after the last coup. Look how well that went!

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2004-03-02 12:35am

jegs2 wrote:From this story:
CNN wrote:Former Haitian Dictator Jean-Bertrand Aristide said Monday he was forced to leave Haiti in a "coup d'etat" by the United States.

"I was told that to avoid bloodshed I'd better leave," he said in an interview on CNN.

Earlier, the Bush administration vigorously denied that Aristide was kidnapped by U.S. troops, which is what two U.S. members of Congress said the deposed Haitian president told them in telephone calls.

"That's nonsense," White House press secretary Scott McClellan said. "I've seen some of the reports [and they] do nothing to help the Haitians move forward to a better, more prosperous future."

Fixed one typo mistake

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-03-02 12:36am

Where?

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2004-03-02 12:44am

Stormbringer wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:We're allies with Haiti?
Well, we did help Aristide get back after the last coup. Look how well that went!

Let's add it to US-assisted/sponsored coups that went peachy.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2004-03-02 01:17am

I see no reason for us to have meddled there. If we were going to, we'd already have beefed up the embassy security and such.

So I call bullshit.

BlkbrryTheGreat · Post by **BlkbrryTheGreat** » 2004-03-02 01:24am

Howedar wrote:I see no reason for us to have meddled there.

Halliburtan can get more rebuilding contracts, paid for by the American People. Duh.

Solauren · Post by **Solauren** » 2004-03-02 01:27am

I look at it this way if it's true.

The US put him into power, then took him out.

Deal with it if it's true

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-03-02 01:57am

BlkbrryTheGreat wrote:
Howedar wrote:I see no reason for us to have meddled there.
Halliburtan can get more rebuilding contracts, paid for by the American People. Duh.

Why the hell would we be rebuilding Hati? And what the hell would we be rebuilding, corrugated tin shanty towns? The US has no sane reason at all to be messing with Hati.

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-03-02 03:24am

The very presence of 2,200 US Marines in a foreign country means meddling. So any saying "no" to this story based on "what do we have to gain" is out from the very start.

Personally, I doubt it, but I'm not sure.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2004-03-02 03:28am

Meddling in this case would be before the rebellion started, since Aristide claims a coup.

Although I see what you're saying and you're techincally correct.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2004-03-02 03:33am

I don't give a damn why or hoe he got kicked from one shithole to another, though I really doubt the US or anyone else put any effort into doing it.

BoredShirtless · Post by **BoredShirtless** » 2004-03-02 05:26am

During an interview with CNN, Aristide said the resignation letter reported by the media wasn't the one he wrote, that "it is missing a sentence". A week ago, he was begging the international community to send forces to restore law and order. Those words don't sound like they came from a man who wanted to leave.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-03-02 10:03am

BoredShirtless wrote:During an interview with CNN, Aristide said the resignation letter reported by the media wasn't the one he wrote, that "it is missing a sentence". A week ago, he was begging the international community to send forces to restore law and order. Those words don't sound like they came from a man who wanted to leave.

True, but he was about to die. I'd have ran if I was him.

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2004-03-02 10:05am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Where?

I replaced the word president with dictator

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2004-03-02 11:13am

[Martin Sheen] NO BLOOD FOR...um...uhh... goats? [Martin Sheen]

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2004-03-02 11:15am

Col. Crackpot wrote:[Martin Sheen] NO BLOOD FOR...um...uhh... goats? [Martin Sheen]

*whispers* "Uh... sugarcane and corrugated metal shacks, Mr. Sheen..."

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2004-03-02 11:24am

Gil Hamilton wrote:
Col. Crackpot wrote:[Martin Sheen] NO BLOOD FOR...um...uhh... goats? [Martin Sheen]
*whispers* "Uh... sugarcane and corrugated metal shacks, Mr. Sheen..."

[Martin Sheen]..uhh..ah yes! This coup is yet another crime in the the long brutal history of the CIA! The Haitian sugar fields are fields of blood and oppression... aww fuck it i'm too rich for this. [Martin Sheen]

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-03-02 12:27pm

Vympel wrote:The very presence of 2,200 US Marines in a foreign country means meddling. So any saying "no" to this story based on "what do we have to gain" is out from the very start.

Personally, I doubt it, but I'm not sure.

True, but the Marines were landed at the embassy once the rebels began threatening the capital. Tthere's never been anything about the doing any thing but securing the embassy in case some looters get ambitious. That's a bit different than them being in country and involved with the rebelion one way or the other.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2004-03-02 01:08pm

Vympel wrote:The very presence of 2,200 US Marines in a foreign country means meddling. So any saying "no" to this story based on "what do we have to gain" is out from the very start.

Personally, I doubt it, but I'm not sure.

Yeah, but this time its UN meddling.

The only real thing the US has to gain from this is to play nicely with our friends instead of pissing them off, for a change. Not that I'm against pissing them off.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2004-03-02 02:26pm

The very presence of 2,200 US Marines in a foreign country means meddling. So any saying "no" to this story based on "what do we have to gain" is out from the very start.

No it doesn't. We've sent troops to places where we've had nothing to gain a couple times for the last decade.

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