The physiology of "KiLL BiLL"

Metrion Cascade · Post by **Metrion Cascade** » 2004-03-03 03:52am

Okay. Obviously there's the impossibly high blood pressure epidemic (blood spraying a meter in the air when someone's head or arm is taken off, etc.). But some other things I've noticed. When Uma Thurman fights the first of O-Ren's bodyguards, she impales one (a grown man) and lifts him above her head on her sword before throwing him about two meters into a pool of water. One other thing (although it's in the trailer and may not be part of the second movie either) - the guy who manages to levitate on top of her sword. How's that done? And last but not least...the drastic decrease in heart rate that the bride seems to cause in herself when Buck and his john come in to talk about selling her body. She's awake, and the monitor is beeping pretty damned fast, and when they approach she lies back down and within about two seconds her heartrate has cut in half according to the monitor.

Anyone care to work on a unified theory of "KiLL BiLL" physiology?

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2004-03-03 03:53am

It's based on an anime or a manga isn't it? That would explain all.

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2004-03-03 03:56am

Either that or a "Friday the 13th" movie.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-03-03 04:02am

Shinova wrote:It's based on an anime or a manga isn't it? That would explain all.

Actually it's primarily based on 70s HK films.

To answer the OT: It's called dramatic license.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2004-03-03 04:38am

The first several are impossible.

However, very fit people CAN control their heart-rates, even lowering them to otherwise impossible levels. I have heard reports of heart-rates for top-athletes can get as low as six or eight beats per minutes, and that this dramatically increases their athletic abilities, however it is also VERY hard to train your body to do, and so for most of us it is impossible.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-03-03 04:42am

Lance Armstrong's resting heartrate is below 40 beats per minute, so he could theoretically bump it up to 80 beats per minute through various means and then let it settle back down. But such a rapid decrease in heartrate is probably out of the question.

Kuroneko · Post by **Kuroneko** » 2004-03-03 05:07am

Darth Wong wrote:Lance Armstrong's resting heartrate is below 40 beats per minute, so he could theoretically bump it up to 80 beats per minute through various means and then let it settle back down. But such a rapid decrease in heartrate is probably out of the question.

Some yogis can outright stop their own hearts at will. I don't think such rapid heart decrecreases are physiologically impossible, just highly unusual and would require significant amounts of training.

Metrion Cascade · Post by **Metrion Cascade** » 2004-03-03 06:54am

Basically I'm wondering what differences there would have to be between real world human physiology and KB physiology. The sword-lifting thing is just freakin' fantasy unless the Bride is far stronger for her weight than anyone else in the movie.

Or unless the swords have subspace coils that mass-lighten anything the blade touches.

That really is a Hattori Hanzo sword...

Daltonator · Post by **Daltonator** » 2004-03-03 07:24am

Jeez. Sometimes movies are meant to be completely unrealistic. Look at Eurotrip. Funny as hell, made zero logical sense. Kill Bill is an orgy of black humor and blood and death, nothing more, and it's pretty cool at that.

Metrion Cascade · Post by **Metrion Cascade** » 2004-03-03 08:26am

Daltonator wrote:Jeez. Sometimes movies are meant to be completely unrealistic. Look at Eurotrip. Funny as hell, made zero logical sense. Kill Bill is an orgy of black humor and blood and death, nothing more, and it's pretty cool at that.

Yes, yes, "KiLL BiLL" does with chop-socky what "Seinfeld" did with the sitcom. Simultaneously spoofs and masters the genre. I loved it. The question is just an exercise to see what silly bullshit excuses we can come up with.

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2004-03-03 09:02am

UT's harnessed the power of the element known as 'Dramatium', which enables her to do things just because they look darn cool.

It's also the source of Buffy's slayer powers.

Demiurge · Post by **Demiurge** » 2004-03-03 12:43pm

Cool, or ludicrous? Is there a difference? I believe there is.

Grand Moff Yenchin · Post by **Grand Moff Yenchin** » 2004-03-03 01:11pm

Metrion Cascade wrote: One other thing (although it's in the trailer and may not be part of the second movie either) - the guy who manages to levitate on top of her sword. How's that done?
Anyone care to work on a unified theory of "KiLL BiLL" physiology?

That's called "Ching(light) gung" which has been exaggerated in the Wuxia movies.

Wanna see a unified theory? Go watch HK martial arts films, especially the ones with a medieval backround.

EmperorChrostas the Cruel · Post by **EmperorChrostas the Cruel** » 2004-03-03 02:32pm

"You use breath controle to make yourself lighter."
The One Armed Boxer.

"Tough, I show you tough! My guys can jump 50 feet in the air, and fight for 10 minutes at full speed with their guts hanging out, and not break a sweat or breath hard!"
Unnamed ChopSaki movie director in Hong Kong circa 1971.

This would be the same movie physics that let Bruce Lee punch a man so hard he went through a fence just like Tom&Jerry, with an outline including fingers!
(Without the head being punched spattering like a gunshot watermellon.)

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2004-03-03 02:34pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:
Shinova wrote:It's based on an anime or a manga isn't it? That would explain all.
Actually it's primarily based on 70s HK films.

To answer the OT: It's called dramatic license.

It's a mixture of lots of stuff, ranging from blaxploitation to anime to HK to spaghetti westerns.

Basically anything QT wanted.

About the physiology, there's also an insane amount of blood that spews from wounds. High blood pressure?

aphexmonster · Post by **aphexmonster** » 2004-03-03 04:35pm

Demiurge wrote:Cool, or ludicrous? Is there a difference? I believe there is.

Theres a fine line between cool and ludicrous, and its only seperated by the social status of the person making the action.

a small example would be Bob marley does i shot the sherrif ... gets nothing for it. Big time respected guitar god Eric clapton covers it, He wins a grammy.

( also applies to trent reznor & jonny cash )

It all depends on how you view whos doing what. These days, hardly anything is taken at face value of appearance - if it was then everyone would be venerated for everything.

Robert Treder · Post by **Robert Treder** » 2004-03-03 10:19pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:
Shinova wrote:It's based on an anime or a manga isn't it? That would explain all.
Actually it's primarily based on 70s HK films.

Nitpick: I wouldn't say primarily; it's got just as much Jack Hill, Sergio Leone, Seijun Suzuki, and Takeshi Kitano in it, not to mention the 80s/90s John Woo movies it's inspired by.

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