Man dressed as the devil disrupts ‘Passion’ movie

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2004-03-02 09:39pm

Lt. Dan wrote:It's not ok for me to make fun of jew, blacks, asians, muslims, budists, or hindus, but it's ok for someone (almost everyone on this board) to make fun of christians?!?! Talk about your double standards...

Whoever said what he did was appropriate?

Darth Raptor · Post by **Darth Raptor** » 2004-03-02 09:43pm

I'll say it: There is absolutely nothing wrong with what he did.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-03-02 09:49pm

Lazy Raptor wrote:I'll say it: There is absolutely nothing wrong with what he did.

That leads you back to his point, you realize. The next question is why? Or would it be why not? Yeah, I think it would.

Darth Raptor · Post by **Darth Raptor** » 2004-03-02 09:51pm

Rogue 9 wrote:That leads you back to his point, you realize. The next question is why? Or would it be why not? Yeah, I think it would.

It is not wrong to express your religious opinions in public.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-03-02 09:51pm

Rogue 9 wrote:
Lazy Raptor wrote:I'll say it: There is absolutely nothing wrong with what he did.
That leads you back to his point, you realize.

You mean his point which contained a serious logical fallacy of equating people to ideas, which I pointed out already but you apparently ignored?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-03-02 10:01pm

Lazy Raptor wrote:
Rogue 9 wrote:That leads you back to his point, you realize. The next question is why? Or would it be why not? Yeah, I think it would.
It is not wrong to express your religious opinions in public.

No, but most people don't like it when you're a total asshole, either.

Darth Raptor · Post by **Darth Raptor** » 2004-03-02 10:03pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:No, but most people don't like it when you're a total asshole, either.

Which he wasn't, BTW.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-03-02 10:08pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:No, but most people don't like it when you're a total asshole, either.

When people are arguing about whether somebody was being an asshole by doing something, it contributes precisely JACK SHIT to simply take one side without explaining yourself. Why don't you try making an intelligent contribution for a fucking change?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-03-02 10:24pm

I thought I explained my position back on the first or second page?

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-03-02 10:26pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:I thought I explained my position back on the first or second page?

Yes, you said he didn't really do anything wrong. Now you're implying that he's a "total asshole". Which is it, and why?

Cornelius · Post by **Cornelius** » 2004-03-02 10:28pm

Being an ass at a movie isn't protected, though.

There is no law that I am aware of that says "Right to protection from assholes." anywhere in the bill of rights or the constitution, but there are court cases which set precedent which explicitly do NOT allow assault and battery, however.

It doesn't matter if they are the grand master assholes of the world. That does not give you the right to inflict, or TRY to inflict bodily harm on someone. Even the threat is illegal.

If that kid did not go around jumping in the face of the people, screaming out loud, or hitting people, he did nothing wrong as it was not agaist the rules to wear a costume to the movies. Even if it WERE illegal..which is a JOKE rule in itself, they still would not hav the right to do squat to him physically. He could be removed, but even that can be fought, since they cannot deem HIS costume offensive without saying anyone's constume is offensive.

This goes back to freedom of religion. Satanism is its own religion and is also part of another religion. If you bann someone dressing up as satan, you have to bann someone dressing up as god or jesus, or mother theresa, or ANY religious figure. Hell, I could say the freaking Pope is offensive.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-03-02 10:31pm

I said that I thought he didn't do anything wrong to deserve getting pelted with candy and a soda poured over him, but that he shouldn't have worn the costume only to incite other patrons.

If I didn't make that clear in the thread, it is my fault and I apologise.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-03-02 10:31pm

Cornelius wrote:Hell, I could say the freaking Pope is offensive.

He is offensive.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-03-02 10:32pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:I said that I thought he didn't do anything wrong to deserve getting pelted with candy and a soda poured over him, but that he shouldn't have worn the costume only to incite other patrons.

If I didn't make that clear in the thread, it is my fault and I apologise.

Ah, OK. The term "total asshole" implied more of a dramatic shift in your opinion than was apparently intended, then.

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2004-03-04 04:31am

Iceberg wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:And yet, if some asshole is talking loudly on his cellphone in the public theatre and ruining everyone's enjoyment of the movie, you can get charged for throwing a drink on him. Nice double-standard ...
There's a difference between throwing a drink on somebody who's just being a disruptive ass (which he said he was going to the movie to do) and throwing a drink on somebody who has an electrical device centimeters from his head.

So if you actually go out of your way and purchase electronic devices to be a disruptive ass, this is somehow nicer than being a disruptive ass just by sitting there wearing a costume that in no way impedes the flow of the movie?

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2004-03-04 04:51am

Iceberg wrote:BY HIS OWN WORDS, he was trolling for a reaction.

I sometimes wear cologne to seek a reaction. I openly admit this - so by your logic, I deserve to be stoned to death with Starbursts.

A bullet in the head is also a reaction. It's a rather broad term, isn't it?

"I wore this costume because I wanted to cause a reaction: I wanted my personal rights to be completely violated", now that would be a justification, don't you think?

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2004-03-04 04:54am

Iceberg wrote:
Arthur_Tuxedo wrote:This raises an interesting question. Is someone an asshole for doing something that's passive and would only piss someone off if he is himself an uptight asshole? I say no.
Unless he had a devil costume lying around, he probably spent between thirty and fifty bucks to rent or buy the costume, plus about fifteen for ticket and concessions. Spending that much money to make a statement about a movie you don't even like is not "passive."

Yes it is.

consequences · Post by **consequences** » 2004-03-04 05:28am

So am I allowed to pour a super-size soda on Jehovah's Witnesses when they come to my door or not?

Lord of the Farce · Post by **Lord of the Farce** » 2004-03-04 06:23am

consequences wrote:So am I allowed to pour a super-size soda on Jehovah's Witnesses when they come to my door or not?

No, first you have to make sure a vampire (or other "occult") movie is playing on your TV, then you have to start with small candy. If they are still there, then and only then should you pour the drink. Then you can complain about the JW deliberately being assholes by bothering you while you are having a personal (anti-)religious experience...

... Oh, did I forget to it mention? It's only a freaking movie.

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2004-03-04 03:36pm

What's the difference between this and wearing an Emperor Palpatine costume to a screening of Star Wars?

plus about fifteen for ticket and concessions

Come on. Does nobody go to matinee shows any more? And whatever happened to the fine art of smuggling your own shit in?

Enigma · Post by **Enigma** » 2004-03-09 07:40pm

Darth Wong wrote:
Iceberg wrote:BTW, I have chucked candy at cellphone talkers before (talk on cell phone during LotR? Fuck you. Starburst to back of head, Ninja style!).
Would you pour a drink on one?

I wouldn't. It would be a waste of a good drink. Maybe throw nacho cheese at him.

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2004-03-09 08:41pm

If somebody purposely dumped a drink on me, I would dump mine right back onto her. I don't care if she's 60 years old or whatever.