Canadian Election What If

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2004-03-03 10:44pm

What if the way elections are done in Canada were change to resemble the US,wich mean the whole country could chose who they would really want as Prime Minister,so Canada would never again be stuck with a PM from Quebec province?

For almost 20 years it was a Quebecer who was in charge,Brian Mulroney from Bay Comeau then Jean Chretien from Shawinigan,now until the next election its Paul Martin from......

Solauren · Post by **Solauren** » 2004-03-04 12:37am

That could get interesting.

I'd run as an independent

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2004-03-04 12:54am

Montcalm wrote:What if the way elections are done in Canada were change to resemble the US,wich mean the whole country could chose who they would really want as Prime Minister,so Canada would never again be stuck with a PM from Quebec province?

For almost 20 years it was a Quebecer who was in charge,Brian Mulroney from Bay Comeau then Jean Chretien from Shawinigan,now until the next election its Paul Martin from......

I'm having a hard time understanding your democratic process. Are you saying only people from Quebec can become Prime Minister? Or are you just saying you're sick of the Prime Ministers you've had who were from Quebec? Forgive my ignorance, the bolded text is the source of my confusion.

Hobot · Post by **Hobot** » 2004-03-04 02:27am

Stofsk wrote: I'm having a hard time understanding your democratic process. Are you saying only people from Quebec can become Prime Minister? Or are you just saying you're sick of the Prime Ministers you've had who were from Quebec? Forgive my ignorance, the bolded text is the source of my confusion.

Yes, back in the war of 1867, Quebec invaded and annexed the rest of Canada and we have been ruled by them ever since...

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2004-03-04 09:04am

Stofsk wrote:
Montcalm wrote:What if the way elections are done in Canada were change to resemble the US,wich mean the whole country could chose who they would really want as Prime Minister,so Canada would never again be stuck with a PM from Quebec province?

For almost 20 years it was a Quebecer who was in charge,Brian Mulroney from Bay Comeau then Jean Chretien from Shawinigan,now until the next election its Paul Martin from......
I'm having a hard time understanding your democratic process. Are you saying only people from Quebec can become Prime Minister? Or are you just saying you're sick of the Prime Ministers you've had who were from Quebec? Forgive my ignorance, the bolded text is the source of my confusion.

I`ll let someone else explain it to you,i`m trying to find the right way to explain it but each time i rewrite it,it sound stupid

Robert Walper · Post by **Robert Walper** » 2004-03-04 09:20am

Montcalm wrote:What if the way elections are done in Canada were change to resemble the US,wich mean the whole country could chose who they would really want as Prime Minister,so Canada would never again be stuck with a PM from Quebec province?

For almost 20 years it was a Quebecer who was in charge,Brian Mulroney from Bay Comeau then Jean Chretien from Shawinigan,now until the next election its Paul Martin from......

What?! You have a problem with Canada's semi dictorship?

Xon · Post by **Xon** » 2004-03-04 09:23am

Montcalm wrote:I`ll let someone else explain it to you,i`m trying to find the right way to explain it but each time i rewrite it,it sound stupid

Thats because of the inherent stupidity in Canadian politics.

After all the Constitution was written by the PM and the generaly public didnt have a say at all.

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2004-03-04 09:37am

Robert Walper wrote:
Montcalm wrote:What if the way elections are done in Canada were change to resemble the US,wich mean the whole country could chose who they would really want as Prime Minister,so Canada would never again be stuck with a PM from Quebec province?

For almost 20 years it was a Quebecer who was in charge,Brian Mulroney from Bay Comeau then Jean Chretien from Shawinigan,now until the next election its Paul Martin from......
What?! You have a problem with Canada's semi dictorship?

So does it means you liked having your tax dollar funneled to Quebec.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2004-03-04 09:47am

i thought the US election system was a mess. At least we get an election, it may be a little shaky in close races, but we get to vote for our leader. The UK, New Zealand anf the Aussies use the same system, right?

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2004-03-04 09:53am

Col. Crackpot wrote:i thought the US election system was a mess. At least we get an election, it may be a little shaky in close races, but we get to vote for our leader. The UK, New Zealand anf the Aussies use the same system, right?

The only few things the US has that look shitty is these punchcards,using some machine to vote.....it would be easier to make an X beside the name of the presidential candidate

And this year don`t let Florida screw it for your nation

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2004-03-04 10:28am

Col. Crackpot wrote:i thought the US election system was a mess. At least we get an election, it may be a little shaky in close races, but we get to vote for our leader. The UK, New Zealand anf the Aussies use the same system, right?

In Australia EVERYBODY votes for our respective leaders; the way it sounds here, only a small percentage of Canadians can vote for their leader, or the leadership is limited to Quebecese. If I am wrong in this, please correct me.

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2004-03-04 10:37am

Stofsk wrote:
Col. Crackpot wrote:i thought the US election system was a mess. At least we get an election, it may be a little shaky in close races, but we get to vote for our leader. The UK, New Zealand anf the Aussies use the same system, right?
In Australia EVERYBODY votes for our respective leaders; the way it sounds here, only a small percentage of Canadians can vote for their leader, or the leadership is limited to Quebecese. If I am wrong in this, please correct me.

I`ll try to explain it the best i can,each party has candidates in many sectors and the leader of the parties have their sector where they campaign to be elected,in the case of Chretien it was where he`s from "Shawinigan" and if he lose there he can go in the sector of one of his winning deputies for a complimentary election,its quite screwed up and it suck

Robert Walper · Post by **Robert Walper** » 2004-03-04 12:10pm

Montcalm wrote:
Robert Walper wrote:
Montcalm wrote:What if the way elections are done in Canada were change to resemble the US,wich mean the whole country could chose who they would really want as Prime Minister,so Canada would never again be stuck with a PM from Quebec province?

For almost 20 years it was a Quebecer who was in charge,Brian Mulroney from Bay Comeau then Jean Chretien from Shawinigan,now until the next election its Paul Martin from......
What?! You have a problem with Canada's semi dictorship?
So does it means you liked having your tax dollar funneled to Quebec.

I was being sarcastic. I dislike the way our government is setup and runs things, trust me.

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2004-03-04 12:16pm

In Canada's system, the voters only get to select members for the House of Commons. The majority party elects the Prime Minister, who basically has dictatorial powers, within the limits imposed by the Constitution. And since at this point Canada only really has one viable political party, there's not much Canadians can do if they don't like their PM.

Fortunately, it's Canada. The worst any PM would ever do is slash helath care funds and send even more Federal loot to Quebec.

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2004-03-04 12:33pm

RedImperator wrote:In Canada's system, the voters only get to select members for the House of Commons. The majority party elects the Prime Minister, who basically has dictatorial powers, within the limits imposed by the Constitution. And since at this point Canada only really has one viable political party, there's not much Canadians can do if they don't like their PM.

Fortunately, it's Canada. The worst any PM would ever do is slash helath care funds and send even more Federal loot to Quebec.

Or fill their personnal bank account with the millions the stole from us all.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2004-03-04 02:36pm

Montcalm wrote:
RedImperator wrote:In Canada's system, the voters only get to select members for the House of Commons. The majority party elects the Prime Minister, who basically has dictatorial powers, within the limits imposed by the Constitution. And since at this point Canada only really has one viable political party, there's not much Canadians can do if they don't like their PM.

Fortunately, it's Canada. The worst any PM would ever do is slash helath care funds and send even more Federal loot to Quebec.
Or fill their personnal bank account with the millions the stole from us all.

all the while criticizing the corrouptness and unfainess of the American political system.

muse · Post by **muse** » 2004-03-04 03:15pm

Col. Crackpot wrote:all the while criticizing the corrouptness and unfainess of the American political system.

Because it's true...

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2004-03-04 03:19pm

muse wrote:
Col. Crackpot wrote:all the while criticizing the corrouptness and unfainess of the American political system.
Because it's true...

so who did you vote for to be your country's head of state? Oops! i forgot, you're not allowed!

na-na-na-nana-nah!

Korvan · Post by **Korvan** » 2004-03-04 03:35pm

Col. Crackpot wrote:
muse wrote:
Col. Crackpot wrote:all the while criticizing the corrouptness and unfainess of the American political system.
Because it's true...
so who did you vote for to be your country's head of state? Oops! i forgot, you're not allowed! na-na-na-nana-nah!

It's worse than that. Our entire executive branch of government is appointed, not elected. The prime minister isn't even our head of state, that post is held by the Governor General, a representative of the Queen of England(Long live the Queen!!!).

Our senate is appointed as well and members hold their seats for life. We have no real credible opposition party.

Canadian politics are quite unique in the world and are the reason that I usually just end up voting for a fringe group such as the Rhino or Marijuana parties.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2004-03-04 03:42pm

perhaps an American invasion to bring democracy to the troubled nation of canada is in order. The shelling of Quebec will start in 5-4-3-2......

muse · Post by **muse** » 2004-03-04 03:49pm

Korvan wrote:Canadian politics are quite unique in the world and are the reason that I usually just end up voting for a fringe group such as the Rhino or Marijuana parties.

I'd imagine the Marijuana party enjoys a fair bit of popularity over there in BC, after all the magic bud is one of the province's leading exports.

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2004-03-04 04:27pm

Col. Crackpot wrote:perhaps an American invasion to bring democracy to the troubled nation of canada is in order. The shelling of Quebec will start in 5-4-3-2......

Please don`t hit my house

And muse you forgot that Quebec produce some fine pot too.

Korvan · Post by **Korvan** » 2004-03-04 05:16pm

Col. Crackpot wrote:perhaps an American invasion to bring democracy to the troubled nation of canada is in order. The shelling of Quebec will start in 5-4-3-2......

It's funny that both Cuba and Iraq (under Sadaam) were both more "democratic" than Canada in that their executive branchs of government are elected.

Andrew J. · Post by **Andrew J.** » 2004-03-04 06:20pm

Isn't it true that only people that speak French and English fluently are allowed to have a job in the Canadian federal government? That would favor people from Quebec, as well.

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2004-03-04 06:31pm

Canada's system is seemingly set up for all kinds of horrible things to happen. You could put an identical model of it in just about any random third world country and end up with a "democratically elected" genocidal tyrant. But since Canada is the most civilized country on Earth, your all powerful PMs spend a decade or two letting their buddies suck on the federal tit and fiddle with the health care budget until everybody hates it, then quietly retire.

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