A Federation Pit Bull (assuming such a thing exists) would do pretty well against an Imperial cat.RogueIce wrote:What Federation object could defeat what Imperial object, in a relatively fair/decent fight?
Assume competence of whatever is manning it, that it can actually fight and all that other good stuff to be fair and even about it.
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Where are the 1 kt TIE lasers coming from?nightmare wrote:7 KT for LTLs?Alyeska wrote: LTL batteries are around 7 KT IIRC. Thats not a major threat. However Carrack Cruisers also carry a handful of HTLs IIRC. Thats a different story.
TIE lasers = 1 KT. Capship lasers = 6 MT. Where would this 7 KT LTL be? Wasn't the AT-AT lasers rated at a minimum of 16 KT recently..
TIE lasers were pretty strong and I'd put them up w/ Slave 1's midship guns at 2 kt.
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http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic. ... +shieldingIlluminatus Primus wrote: Where are the 1 kt TIE lasers coming from?
TIE lasers were pretty strong and I'd put them up w/ Slave 1's midship guns at 2 kt.
Read 1 KT minimum.
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I wasn't arguing minimum and this states my point quite well.The point is looking at the power avalible to a starfighter, they could easily mount heavier weapons (say 10-5kt), if there is no other technical or physical limitation. Bottom line we only know the energy weapon yeild of what would be considered obsolete 20 year old fighters. We never see a starfighter shoot anything in the OT, that can be used to accuratly determine there weapons yeild.
Slave 1's guns IMHO could probably fire heavier beams with a higher recycle rate then the repeating fire seen in AOTC.
The Jedi Starfighter is an extremely compact design which seems more an armed courier/scout to me, and thus the 1 kt is pretty appropriate.
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LTL batteries are around 7 KT IIRC. Thats not a major threat. However Carrack Cruisers also carry a handful of HTLs IIRC. Thats a different story.[/quote]Alyeska wrote:Explain? Carrack Cruisers have, I believe, multiple LTL batteries, and even light turbolasers are far more powerful than phasers or photon torpedos. The Carrack isn't a top-of-the-line design, by any means, but just because it's old and relatively small (compared to the ISDs and Mon Cal Cruisers) doesn't mean it isn't an effective warship.
A Carrack Cruiser is armed with multiple MTL batteries, and designed to combat capital ships, but almost anything in SW is powerful enough to destroy a ST ship. When you consider that Queen Amidala's personal YACHT in AotC has sufficient shielding to dissipate the E-D's entire torpedo payload, by most estimates, in one second, you find that even the smallest capital ships will be impervious to UFP assault.
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Sounds to me like any Fed ship with X class Phasers (and compararable targeting systems) MIGHT destroy an unshielded SW ship (probably fighter-size), assuming Feddie ship shoots first. but I don't know if the fighter armor would be too tuff.
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Sounds to me like any Fed ship with X class Phasers (and compararable targeting systems) MIGHT destroy an unshielded SW ship (probably fighter-size), assuming Feddie ship shoots first. but I don't know if the fighter armor would be too tuff.
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