Anyone interested in an FR game?

[lazerus]

The guards are attacking me, not the abby.

The DM told me on MSN chat.

[SirNitram]

Much as I dislike pausing a game...

You have clerics? Those are PC class levels, which are 3 levels higher on the Leadership score.

They can transform at will? Then they have the Half-Weretiger template, and +3 level adjustment.

Finally, they have 2nd level spells, which require 3rd level of Cleric.

Total of nineth level. Without Epic Leadership(Which you of course don't qualify for yet), even at best you could only have a level 6 follower.

Will the cheezy powergaming please stop?

[Rogue 9]

Much as I dislike pausing a game...

You have clerics? Those are PC class levels, which are 3 levels higher on the Leadership score.

They can transform at will? Then they have the Half-Weretiger template, and +3 level adjustment.

Finally, they have 2nd level spells, which require 3rd level of Cleric.

Total of nineth level. Without Epic Leadership(Which you of course don't qualify for yet), even at best you could only have a level 6 follower.

Will the cheezy powergaming please stop?

Seconded. Again. I think I already pointed this out...

[lazerus]

Much as I dislike pausing a game...

You have clerics? Those are PC class levels, which are 3 levels higher on the Leadership score.

They can transform at will? Then they have the Half-Weretiger template, and +3 level adjustment.

Finally, they have 2nd level spells, which require 3rd level of Cleric.

Total of nineth level. Without Epic Leadership(Which you of course don't qualify for yet), even at best you could only have a level 6 follower.

Will the cheezy powergaming please stop?

1) Powergaming or not, I havn't violated the rules.
2) Yes, i'm aware about the rules concerning PC class levels.
3) They CANNOT transform at will, i'm talking 'bout my minions.

[SirNitram]

Much as I dislike pausing a game...

You have clerics? Those are PC class levels, which are 3 levels higher on the Leadership score.

They can transform at will? Then they have the Half-Weretiger template, and +3 level adjustment.

Finally, they have 2nd level spells, which require 3rd level of Cleric.

Total of nineth level. Without Epic Leadership(Which you of course don't qualify for yet), even at best you could only have a level 6 follower.

Will the cheezy powergaming please stop?

1) Powergaming or not, I havn't violated the rules.

I think I've fairly well established just now they have.

2) Yes, i'm aware about the rules concerning PC class levels.

Funny how you somehow have Clerics when you can't, then.. Because a Leadership of 21 nets you at most one person capable of 2nd level Clerical spells, let alone multiple clerics, casting multiple 2nd level spells.

3) They CANNOT transform at will, i'm talking 'bout my minions.

They just transformed, and it is not full moon.

[lazerus]

I think I've fairly well established just now they have.

I think you don't know what you are talking about.

Because a Leadership of 21

Actually my leadership is higher then that.

They just transformed, and it is not full moon.

Afflicted werewolves with enough ranks in Control Shape can shift outside the full moon.

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Although, at the rate the game is going, this is about to become very very moot as all my minions will be DEAD.

[SirNitram]

I think I've fairly well established just now they have.

I think you don't know what you are talking about.

Aren't you cute.

Because a Leadership of 21

Actually my leadership is higher then that.

That's certainly what you posted it as. No matter; the highest it goes without Epic Leadership is 2 6th level, who could still not have the template AND cleric levels AND the spells you attribute.

They just transformed, and it is not full moon.

Afflicted werewolves with enough ranks in Control Shape can shift outside the full moon.

Afflicted werewolves still use the template.

Although, at the rate the game is going, this is about to become very very moot as all my minions will be DEAD.

Good.

[lazerus]

Afflicted werewolves still use the template.

Oh, that's what the problem is? Simple explanation.

I was saying to tycho before the game started about how it was unfortunite that all my followers coudln't be weretigers. He pointed out that I could just bite them to make them afflicted. I asked wouln't they object to that, blah blah, he rolled some CHA checks, and said that no, they wouldn't.

I said that ok, if were going to say that I can add the afflicted template, can I say I did it before the game started, Tycho said sure, so they are weretigers.


Yes, it is a violation of the rules blah blah whatever. The DM said I could do it.

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And like you said, it's very quickly moot.

[SirNitram]

Afflicted werewolves still use the template.

Oh, that's what the problem is? Simple explanation.

I was saying to tycho before the game started about how it was unfortunite that all my followers coudln't be weretigers. He pointed out that I could just bite them to make them afflicted. I asked wouln't they object to that, blah blah, he rolled some CHA checks, and said that no, they wouldn't.

I said that ok, if were going to say that I can add the afflicted template, can I say I did it before the game started, Tycho said sure, so they are weretigers.


Yes, it is a violation of the rules blah blah whatever. The DM said I could do it.

Glad to see the spirit of the players is for a free and level playing field.

And like you said, it's very quickly moot.

And I discover that's more and more a good thing with your attitude.

[lazerus]

Glad to see the spirit of the players is for a free and level playing field.

*raises eyebrow*

If i'm at such a huge advantage like you seem to think, care to explain why i'm getting my butt kicked?

If the DM let me do it, he'll take it into account and i'll have harder encounters thrown at me. So it's a level playing field. And to be fair, I didn't plan to do this so I could lord over the other players or somthing, stop being so paranoid.

And I discover that's more and more a good thing with your attitude.

Please take your complaints up with the DM, as I just can't bring myself to care.

[Alyrium Denryle]

You are getting you ass kicked because your character and choice of prepared spells... suck.

[SirNitram]

Glad to see the spirit of the players is for a free and level playing field.

*raises eyebrow*

If i'm at such a huge advantage like you seem to think, care to explain why i'm getting my butt kicked?

If the DM let me do it, he'll take it into account and i'll have harder encounters thrown at me. So it's a level playing field. And to be fair, I didn't plan to do this so I could lord over the other players or somthing, stop being so paranoid.

You answer your own question, then claim everything is fair. Of course, idiot, you should know that this is supposedly a game about the party, not Laz And His Ubertroops.

And I discover that's more and more a good thing with your attitude.

Please take your complaints up with the DM, as I just can't bring myself to care.

Yes, yes, you're a petty little child. Please, find arenas other than a game I'm trying to enjoy to compensate for your personal shortcomings.

[lazerus]

You answer your own question, then claim everything is fair. Of course, idiot, you should know that this is supposedly a game about the party, not Laz And His Ubertroops.

And if YOU were the DM of this game, that would be your call to make. As you are NOT, I suggest you shut the hell up.

My being allowed to do that was a RULES call. Who makes rules calls? Here's a hint, NOT ME! That decision was NOT my call, and i'm getting sick of you acting like I cheated!

Yes, yes, you're a petty little child.

Ok, yeah. That was a bit childish. Sorry.

[SirNitram]

You answer your own question, then claim everything is fair. Of course, idiot, you should know that this is supposedly a game about the party, not Laz And His Ubertroops.

And if YOU were the DM of this game, that would be your call to make. As you are NOT, I suggest you shut the hell up.

I will exercise my Wong-given right to express my dislike of stupidity on this forum.

My being allowed to do that was a RULES call. Who makes rules calls? Here's a hint, NOT ME! That decision was NOT my call, and i'm getting sick of you acting like I cheated!

Guess what? You bent the rules to the breaking point to get more power. This is a trait I reply to with intense contempt. The reasoning is simple, this is supposed to be a game for relaxation and enjoyment, not penis waving.

Yes, yes, you're a petty little child.

Ok, yeah. That was a bit childish. Sorry.

As it seems our DM has found an in-game way to put you back around the rest of us in capability, perhaps now we can get the party together.

[lazerus]

I will exercise my Wong-given right to express my dislike of stupidity on this forum.

Your confusing stupidity with apathy.

Yes, in my option, that is a bad rules call that unbalences the game. But it's not my call to make, so don't call me stupid.

In my defense, if I had known my not objecating to that call would have made the game less fun for others, I would have objected. My apoligies.

Guess what? You bent the rules to the breaking point to get more power. This is a trait I reply to with intense contempt.

I broke the rules? I very specificaly asked the DM if I could do this, he said yes. Deal with it.

The reasoning is simple, this is supposed to be a game for relaxation and enjoyment, not penis waving.

NOW who's being immature?

As it seems our DM has found an in-game way to put you back around the rest of us in capability, perhaps now we can get the party together.

Actually, given their arment, level, and spell-buffs active, i'm rolling up a new charachter.

[SirNitram]

I will exercise my Wong-given right to express my dislike of stupidity on this forum.

Your confusing stupidity with apathy.

Yes, in my option, that is a bad rules call that unbalences the game. But it's not my call to make, so don't call me stupid.

In my defense, if I had known my not objecating to that call would have made the game less fun for others, I would have objected. My apoligies.

No, I can see your apathy to anyone's enjoyment but your own.

Guess what? You bent the rules to the breaking point to get more power. This is a trait I reply to with intense contempt.

I broke the rules? I very specificaly asked the DM if I could do this, he said yes. Deal with it.

Your reading comprehension or lack thereof is not my problem.

The reasoning is simple, this is supposed to be a game for relaxation and enjoyment, not penis waving.

NOW who's being immature?

Yea, it's so immature to expect games to be about fun. Or are you one of those contemptible idiots who think saying 'penis' is immature?

As it seems our DM has found an in-game way to put you back around the rest of us in capability, perhaps now we can get the party together.

Actually, given their arment, level, and spell-buffs active, i'm rolling up a new charachter.

I'm sure this one will be just as full of twink.

[Alyrium Denryle]

I'm sure this one will be just as full of twink.

Somehow I doubt his characters are full of twink(A cookie if you understand my pun)

[lazerus]

No, I can see your apathy to anyone's enjoyment but your own.

Really? WOW! Please tell me this magical methoid by which you know more about how my mind works then I do.

Seriouly, shut the fuck up. Yes, I didn't stop to think "I wonder if my haveing more powerfull minions will ruin the game for someone else.". You know why I didn't think that? Because it's stupid that's why. You say I'M immature, why does it gall you so much that the DM made a call that helps someone other then you?

Your reading comprehension or lack thereof is not my problem.

The DM was aware of the rules when he made that call, I specifically told him so, and he made that call anyway. If you have a problem with that call, TAKE IT UP WITH HIM.

Yea, it's so immature to expect games to be about fun.

1) If I had known this would make the game less fun I woudln't have done it.

2) Can you explain WHY THE HELL THIS DOES MAKE THE GAME LESS FUN!?

I'm sure this one will be just as full of twink.

*raises eyebrow*

My last one was NOT combat char and would actually have been pretty weak except for that one call. Where do you get off calling me a twink?

[lazerus]

*sigh*

Upon consulting with another PC who told me that apprantly people other then you find it annyoing, I condede the point. It wasn't in good sport for me to not object to what I knew was a bad call.

I still hold that I had no bad intentions, but I cede that your right about the rules call.

Sorry.

I'll just suicide this charachter, roll up a new one according to the straight and narrow rules, and hope that I havn't pissed any other PC's off.


No hard feelings?

[SirNitram]

I don't hold grudges over something as simple as this, though I'll hold suspicions.

And the comment about your reading comprehension had nothing to do with the rules. When I say 'bend the rules to the breaking point' it does not mean they were broken. That phrase was made to imply they were dishonestly used for gain but not actually broken, which is a contemptible action.

[lazerus]

And the comment about your reading comprehension had nothing to do with the rules. When I say 'bend the rules to the breaking point' it does not mean they were broken. That phrase was made to imply they were dishonestly used for gain but not actually broken, which is a contemptible action.

Conceded, once again, sorry.

though I'll hold suspicions.

Ye'd have to be very very trusing not too.

[lazerus]

http://www.3eprofiler.net/3ep/view.php?id=4893

Here is my new charachter, tycho, please kill off my old one.

Also, with your permission, I would like to make my new one my old ones' half-brother. I promise I won't use this to my advantage.

[lazerus]

Oh, and for the record, my followers are all human warriors. Nothing fancy here.

[SirNitram]

Updated Malk and Torm's character sheets when it was realized we weren't 16th level like we were supposed to be. Took a level of Weaponmaster, and Torm took another of Fighter.

[lazerus]

So, what did everyone think of the first installment?