As if I believe you. The next time you make a statement of fact, assume I'm assuming you're mistaken/plain making it up out of thin air [or right wing propaganda which is just hot thin air]. Back your shit up.
AUTHORIZATION FOR WAR WITH IRAQ SCORECARD
The Center for International Policy provided a record of how the current Congressional candidates voted on the Authorization for War with Iraq bill (H.J.RES.114). For non-congressional candidates, see links to their "statements" below.
Congressional Candidate Vote
Senator John Kerry (MA) Yes
Congressman Dennis J. Kucinich (OH) No
As if I believe you. The next time you make a statement of fact, assume I'm assuming you're mistaken/plain making it up out of thin air [or right wing propaganda which is just hot thin air]. Back your shit up.
AUTHORIZATION FOR WAR WITH IRAQ SCORECARD
The Center for International Policy provided a record of how the current Congressional candidates voted on the Authorization for War with Iraq bill (H.J.RES.114). For non-congressional candidates, see links to their "statements" below.
Congressional Candidate Vote
Senator John Kerry (MA) Yes
Congressman Dennis J. Kucinich (OH) No
So Now what...anything other questions about this.???
Well that doesn't look too good. I wonder if he fell for the spin thrown by Bush? Anyway, that vote was cast at the end of 2002. At that time, hope for a new UN resolution authorising force was still alive. A lot of maybe's, but one thing is for sure: just because he voted in favor for war in 2002, in an envirionment of lies from the President and hopes for a new UN Resolution, doesn't mean he's a war criminal as colonel fuckpot suggests.
Well that doesn't look too good. I wonder if he fell for the spin thrown by Bush? Anyway, that vote was cast at the end of 2002. At that time, hope for a new UN resolution authorising force was still alive. A lot of maybe's, but one thing is for sure: just because he voted in favor for war in 2002, in an envirionment of lies from the President and hopes for a new UN Resolution, doesn't mean he's a war criminal as colonel fuckpot suggests
Spin, spin, little top..... He was a member of the Intelligence committee So saw the same INFO as Bush....... We have done this to death... This is a CIA MI5 info problem.. and a big one
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"There is intelligence that Iraq has sought the supply of significant quantities of uranium from Africa. Iraq has no active civilian nuclear power programme or nuclear power plants and therefore has no legitimate reason to acquire uranium."
Iraq's Weapons of Mass Destruction: The assessment of the British Government
"The British Government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."
US President George W Bush's State of the Union address
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7 March 2003
"Based on thorough analysis, the IAEA has concluded, with the concurrence of outside experts, that these documents - which formed the basis for the reports of recent uranium transactions between Iraq and Niger - are in fact not authentic.
We have therefore concluded that these specific allegations are unfounded."
UN nuclear inspector Mohamed ElBaradei's report to the UN Security Council
"It is very odd indeed that the Government asserts that it was not relying on the evidence which has since been shown to have been forged but that eight months later it is still reviewing the other evidence... We recommend that the Government explain on what evidence it relied for its judgement in September that Iraq had recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa. We further recommend that in its response to this Report the Government set out whether it still considers the September dossier to be accurate in what it states about Iraq's attempts to procure uranium from Africa in the light of subsequent events."
"The evidence that we had that the Iraqi Government had gone back to try to purchase further amounts of uranium from Niger did not come from these so-called "forged" documents, they came from separate intelligence."
British Prime Minister Tony Blair testimony to the House of Commons Liaison Committee.
"The CIA cleared the speech in its entirety... Some specifics about amount and place were taken out. With the changes in that sentence, the speech was cleared. The agency did not say they wanted that sentence out.
If the CIA - the director of central intelligence - had said "Take this out of the speech," it would have been gone. We have a high standard for the president's speeches."
National security adviser Condoleezza Rice on US President George W Bush's State of the Union address
"These 16 words should never have been included in the text written for the president. The president had every reason to believe that the text presented to him was sound. I am responsible for the approval process in my agency."
"The CIA expressed reservations to us about this element of the September dossier... However, the US comment was unsupported by explanation and UK officials were confident that the dossier's statement was based on reliable intelligence which we had not shared with the US... A judgement was therefore made to retain it."
UK Foreign Secretary Jack Straw in a letter to Donald Anderson MP, Chair of the House of Commons Foreign Affairs Committee
If the only one saying it was false was Joesph Wilson and The UK gov said it was real.... Which would you belive??
WASHINGTON (AP) - John Kerry, the Democratic presidential nominee-in-waiting, challenged the Bush administration Saturday to reimburse the families of U.S. troops "who had to buy the body armor" needed for protection in Iraq.
"If I am president, I will be prepared to use military force to protect our security, our people and our vital interests," the Massachusetts senator said in the Democrats' weekly radio address.
"But I will never send our troops into harm's way without enough firepower and support."
I'd probably listen pretty seriously to my own guy, who happens to be an experienced foreign diplomat with decades in service to his country.
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Iceberg wrote:I'd probably listen pretty seriously to my own guy, who happens to be an experienced foreign diplomat with decades in service to his country.
You would.
I would.
The administration wouldn't because Wilson wasn't telling them what they wanted to hear.
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If the only one saying it was false was Joesph Wilson and The UK gov said it was real.... Which would you belive??
The one where the evidence isn't a forged load of bullshit, irrespective of the UK's laughable claims that they have "other" evidence that they're not going to show anyone?
If the only one saying it was false was Joesph Wilson and The UK gov said it was real.... Which would you belive??
The one where the evidence isn't a forged load of bullshit, irrespective of the UK's laughable claims that they have "other" evidence that they're not going to show anyone?
Perhaps because of rules governing intelligence-sharing? Niger's uranium operations are controlled by the French Atomic Energy Commission, so it seems likely that the Brits would have gotten that intelligence from the French. There's also the fact that intelligence just can't always be made public.
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I'm studying for the CPA exam. Have a nice summer, and if you're down just sit back and realize that Joe is off somewhere, doing much worse than you are.
Joe wrote:Perhaps because of rules governing intelligence-sharing? Niger's uranium operations are controlled by the French Atomic Energy Commission, so it seems likely that the Brits would have gotten that intelligence from the French.
Do you have more then just your asshole as a source to back this conspiracy theory?
There's also the fact that intelligence just can't always be made public.
This is what you're expecting us to swallow: the UK thought the risk of getting caught recycling an old student paper [passing it off as up-to-date intelligence] was acceptable, while at the same time withholding genuine intelligence....even though said intelligence would have silenced the French and German governments objections, especially Germany's Joschka Fischer who was telling everybody within hearing range that the United States and the UK had no real evidence. And arguable, would have gotten the UN resolution authorising force.
Could you be any more enthusiastic and transparent in your attempts to hug the nuts of the pro-war movement, even at the expense of common sense? You're like Bambi in one way; all doe eyed and naive. But you're like the rectum in another; full of shit.
