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This has probably been said before... but Gundam mecha will kick the shit out of Battlemechs...
MS-09 Doms move at speeds somewhere around 180km/h with max speeds of 240km/h. This doesn't even count the dodge boosting which can bump the speed up even higher.
Zakus are slower, with speeds of only 85km/h. BFD. One Zaku could circle strafe even an Atlas, one of the heaviest class of BattleMechs to death and rip it to pieces just by itself.
A Zaku II standard weapon is a 120mm machine gun. This is even larger caliber than an AC-20. (105mm) With 140 rounds. And the Gundam laughs off damage of this kind. Speaks volumes for Luna Titanium, no?
Zakus can carry 280mm bazookas with nuclear warheads. 'Nuff said. I don't care what you say about "Zeon and Feds have no nukes," because they DO! They signed the Antarctic treaty in January 31st, which caused them to stand own the use of NBC weapons. Please don't tell me they could dismantle ALL of them in one year. We've been trying for thrirty years and how far have we gotten?
And the Gundam itself... hoo boy. Please bear in mind that the Gundam can re-enter the atmosphere, without even using its shield.
Bear in mind that an Atlas will target the head, to kill the pilot, especially because it is so exposed. A Zaku will fire at the torso, to kill the pilot. Unfortunately, Battlemech reactors are in the torso. Zaku cockpits are NOT in the head.
The only possible threat a battlemech could pose is if it used beam weaponry, and even then the mech pilots would be hard-pressed to accurately hit a Zaku moving at full speed opening fire on him with a 120mm machine gun.
Finally, have you even seen the ace pilots of Gundam? These people can singlehandedly kill five battleships without energy weapons and win in six-on-one odds in inferior MS.
I rest my case.
MS-09 Doms move at speeds somewhere around 180km/h with max speeds of 240km/h. This doesn't even count the dodge boosting which can bump the speed up even higher.
Zakus are slower, with speeds of only 85km/h. BFD. One Zaku could circle strafe even an Atlas, one of the heaviest class of BattleMechs to death and rip it to pieces just by itself.
A Zaku II standard weapon is a 120mm machine gun. This is even larger caliber than an AC-20. (105mm) With 140 rounds. And the Gundam laughs off damage of this kind. Speaks volumes for Luna Titanium, no?
Zakus can carry 280mm bazookas with nuclear warheads. 'Nuff said. I don't care what you say about "Zeon and Feds have no nukes," because they DO! They signed the Antarctic treaty in January 31st, which caused them to stand own the use of NBC weapons. Please don't tell me they could dismantle ALL of them in one year. We've been trying for thrirty years and how far have we gotten?
And the Gundam itself... hoo boy. Please bear in mind that the Gundam can re-enter the atmosphere, without even using its shield.
Bear in mind that an Atlas will target the head, to kill the pilot, especially because it is so exposed. A Zaku will fire at the torso, to kill the pilot. Unfortunately, Battlemech reactors are in the torso. Zaku cockpits are NOT in the head.
The only possible threat a battlemech could pose is if it used beam weaponry, and even then the mech pilots would be hard-pressed to accurately hit a Zaku moving at full speed opening fire on him with a 120mm machine gun.
Finally, have you even seen the ace pilots of Gundam? These people can singlehandedly kill five battleships without energy weapons and win in six-on-one odds in inferior MS.
I rest my case.
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must.... not.... argue....!!!!!Evil Sadistic Bastard wrote:This has probably been said before... but Gundam mecha will kick the shit out of Battlemechs...
MS-09 Doms move at speeds somewhere around 180km/h with max speeds of 240km/h. This doesn't even count the dodge boosting which can bump the speed up even higher.
Zakus are slower, with speeds of only 85km/h. BFD. One Zaku could circle strafe even an Atlas, one of the heaviest class of BattleMechs to death and rip it to pieces just by itself.
A Zaku II standard weapon is a 120mm machine gun. This is even larger caliber than an AC-20. (105mm) With 140 rounds. And the Gundam laughs off damage of this kind. Speaks volumes for Luna Titanium, no?
Zakus can carry 280mm bazookas with nuclear warheads. 'Nuff said. I don't care what you say about "Zeon and Feds have no nukes," because they DO! They signed the Antarctic treaty in January 31st, which caused them to stand own the use of NBC weapons. Please don't tell me they could dismantle ALL of them in one year. We've been trying for thrirty years and how far have we gotten?
And the Gundam itself... hoo boy. Please bear in mind that the Gundam can re-enter the atmosphere, without even using its shield.
Bear in mind that an Atlas will target the head, to kill the pilot, especially because it is so exposed. A Zaku will fire at the torso, to kill the pilot. Unfortunately, Battlemech reactors are in the torso. Zaku cockpits are NOT in the head.
The only possible threat a battlemech could pose is if it used beam weaponry, and even then the mech pilots would be hard-pressed to accurately hit a Zaku moving at full speed opening fire on him with a 120mm machine gun.
Finally, have you even seen the ace pilots of Gundam? These people can singlehandedly kill five battleships without energy weapons and win in six-on-one odds in inferior MS.
I rest my case.
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Actually also the major thing is the sheer agility of some of the greater Gundams.
If we take OYW we have seriously things of Guncannon, Gundam RX-78, Geloogs, Gyan, and Zeoong. Any of these are more than capable of shredding a B-tech with an average pilot(let alone Char, Ramba, Amuro at the control). Plus there are things along the lines of Gouf which has easily superior hand to hand, and the thrusters to easily engage it thusly. I mean I could see concieveably a okay fight between the Zaku I, II, and RX-79's but beyond that sorry the Mobile Suit become a little too potent.
Beyond OYW, sorry Z-Gundam stuff and CCA would shred armies of B-tech weaponry...and seriously going further would get a little ridiculous.
If we take OYW we have seriously things of Guncannon, Gundam RX-78, Geloogs, Gyan, and Zeoong. Any of these are more than capable of shredding a B-tech with an average pilot(let alone Char, Ramba, Amuro at the control). Plus there are things along the lines of Gouf which has easily superior hand to hand, and the thrusters to easily engage it thusly. I mean I could see concieveably a okay fight between the Zaku I, II, and RX-79's but beyond that sorry the Mobile Suit become a little too potent.
Beyond OYW, sorry Z-Gundam stuff and CCA would shred armies of B-tech weaponry...and seriously going further would get a little ridiculous.
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And suddenly all the Gundams explode, and Anubis hovers ominously..
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</hijack>
Though we are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are,--
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are,--
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
*Devil Gundam lifts foot and is puzzeled as to why Anubis is not even there*VF5SS wrote:Devil Gundam squishes the Anubis. end of story. Hijack averted.Isil`Zha wrote:And suddenly all the Gundams explode, and Anubis hovers ominously..
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Isn't instant teleportation ability grand?
I wouldn't even count Devil Gundam as a mecha anyway considering it's size.
Though we are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are,--
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are,--
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
It can when said teleportation hides said Mecha in a vector trap.IG-88E wrote:Instant teleprtation won't help you when Colony DG can fire in all directions when you're still klicks away.
Though we are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are,--
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are,--
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
Think of it as alternate dimention/blackhole type thing... it's how Anubis teleports... umm... here we go:IG-88E wrote:the fuck's a vector trap?
"When high velocity and rotation are applied to Metatron [material Anubis is constructed of], the result is an effect such that the space above it is sucked in towards the rotating axis, and the motion of the created distortion trying to quickly restore itself is like a that of a rubber band. This distorted space then snaps shut, and can be used as a type of cargo bay. This process is called a Vector Trap. The make-up of the enclosed item remains the same."
Though we are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are,--
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are,--
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
How so? I'm mearly using the ablities it has displayed.VF5SS wrote:Yeash, this guy is godmodding.
Though we are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are,--
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are,--
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
Umm, the 6 extremely large wing verniers that hover over Anubis's back are vector trap generators. (My avatar is a pic of Anubis) It is how Anubis teleports, by creating a large vector trap and traveling through that enclosed space.IG-88E wrote:how big can one of these VTs get? ie how much can they suck in?
and how can you get out?
Also: http://www.konamijpn.com/products/zoe2/ ... 00_no8.jpg
Anubis, as well as Jehuty, also have smaller vector traps around their waist area in which they store alternate weapons.
Though we are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are,--
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are,--
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
Most of it is explained actually... and it did spawn it's own anime (2 movies as far as I know...)VF5SS wrote:I wouldn't bother asking. Video games make anything possible. Least we turned the Btechers away.
Though we are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are,--
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are,--
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
You didn't answer my questions. Do you know the answers? Can you guess?Isil`Zha wrote:Umm, the 6 extremely large wing verniers that hover over Anubis's back are vector trap generators. (My avatar is a pic of Anubis) It is how Anubis teleports, by creating a large vector trap and traveling through that enclosed space.IG-88E wrote:how big can one of these VTs get? ie how much can they suck in?
and how can you get out?
Also: http://www.konamijpn.com/products/zoe2/ ... 00_no8.jpg
Anubis, as well as Jehuty, also have smaller vector traps around their waist area in which they store alternate weapons.
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