Stewart from SDI sucks RSA cock

[Tribun]

We should have expected Darkstar-Influence from the beginning.

[SirNitram]

We should have expected Darkstar-Influence from the beginning.

You didn't? He was a blindingly obvious clone when he showed up.

[18-Till-I-Die]

We should have expected Darkstar-Influence from the beginning.

You didn't? He was a blindingly obvious clone when he showed up.

(Yoda voice)

Hmm...the Darkstar clouds everything. The posters are growing weaker in their ability to sense the Darkstar.

(/Yoda voice)

[Darth Servo]

In The Attack of the Clones movie, the trip to the "cloners" world K something, the tall skinny people's planet, is shown on a map.

So says Mr. "I'm an expert in everything but I can't even remember the name 'Kamino' in a debate about Star Wars"

It is less than one third of the distance from the center of the Galixy. Count the pixels if you dought this. The refferance made to being "Beyond the rim" must therefore apply to the rim of the empire not the rim of the Galaxy proper.

Which we determined by Obi-wan waving his finger around at a map. Furthermore, we DON'T have the proper perspective on his finger and map to see exactly where he was pointing.

(In very many other "Cannon" referances the Empire is said to have 1,000,000 planets out of 12,000,000 in the Galixy.)

And even using Rabid Stupid Asshole's bullshit interpretations of those quotes, that still out-strips all the Trek powers put together.

Coressant is shown at the center and Tatooeen is closer than the cloners world to the center of the map. In the map sceen in the cockpit of Amidala's ship on Tatooeen there are two interesting things the overall dimentions of the map and the conversation that states (parafraising) that "the jedi help will never get there in time from Corresant" to the planet that Obi is on, but it is "less than a parsec away from us" That trip takes fifteen hours! (15! or .2 LY/hour!!!)

All based on the ludicrous assumption that its possible to have blue sky in the middle of the night on Coruscant not to mention absurd assumptions about the direction of shadows and the timing of the start of the events in question.

(See Dark Star's ST-v-SW site for links to this list of gaffs!)

Finally, a rabid trektard that admits that idiotic site is full of "gaffs" although that is an understatement.

This conundrum means that no matter which way the SW fans choose they loose when compaired to the speeds shown in the hundreds of hours of Star Trek Universe CANNON.

There's so much in fact that I can't be bothered to give specific details.

1. 49,000LY in 6.7 hours. See ST-5 and referance the maps in the First ST book by Frans Joseph Designs.

You mean the book that is NOT canon.

2. Even higher speeds by computing star travel in ALL the TV shows and ALL the movies by computing star interval verces known spacing here in this Galixy!

Justify your assumption that those little lights flying by the Enterprize are in fact stars, especially since some of them pass IN BETWEEN the camera and the ship proving that they are FAR TOO SMALL to be stars. Dumbass.

3. Incredably higher than SW speeds in certain episodes were ships went from the nutral zone @ 4,500 LY to Earth in less than an hour.

No actual examples though. No canon information stating the distance between the neutral zone and Earth.

4. +-600 hours of CANNON showing faster speeds than anything in the SW films.

Didn't anyone ever tell you that mindlessly repeating a claim doesn't really make it true. Thats just a figure of speech. #4 is just a repetition of #2. (and the other number 2 is what your entire post it BTW)

5. AND Voyager the SLOWEST SHIP IN STAR FLEET that takes 75 years to cross the Galixy. (A trip that Enterprise could make in <14 hours! See ST-5)

A) Voyager is faster than the E-D which is faster than the E-A. Simple math. You're ASSUMING that ST5 was in the literal center of the galaxy even though the area had NONE of the massive black holes that are thoerized to exist there.

There are many examples of Navies and Merchants that build ships that are much slower than they are capable of building in our own history. We only have to look to our own Navy to see this first hand. In WW-II DD's were designed for 38 knots. Current DD's are built for 27 OR 30! The Skipjack was faster than Thresher, which was faster than Permit ETC.ETC.

All of which is totally irrelevant since your claim about Voyager is BS.

There are lots of reasons why you would build a slower ship like Voyager. But there is no way to explain away the defects inherant in either the SW movies or the contradictory books. No matter which way you go, sarcastic dialogue aside, the hard evidence makes ST ships many Orders of Magnitude faster than anything in the SW universe! AGAIN, SEE DARK STAR'S ST-v-SW PAGE FOR DETAILS IF YOU DOUGHT THIS!

You mean the page that Master of Ossus refuted over a year ago?

P.S. I know that I've really stepped on it now! But it's more fun than a grown man should be alowed to have!

Yes, we KNOW you enjoy jacking off to that webpage but you don't need to advertize it.

But the SW EU stuff is even fuller of really stupid gaffs and contradictions to the movies than the worst part of the ST Cannon. See the ST-v-SW web site for a list of discrepancies that will blow your doors off!

Many of those so-called "discrepancies" are created by Trekkies out-right LYING. Example (that thing Stewart seems incapable of providing). One time an EU novel has 6 ISDs melting the ice on a planet and the webpage in question somehow translates this to “over 100”

This is compounded by Spielburg and the movie writers who colectivly knew less hard science AND martial technology than any of the ST writers.

Oh please. The Trek writers don’t even know the difference between a watt and a joule. Tell me Mr. Science expert, do YOU know the difference?

If we take the dialogue to be factual and not sarcastic then the "Fastest Ship In The Galixy" "MAKES .5 PAST LIGHT SPEED!!!"

Oh come on. Even the most Rabid Stupid Trekkie Asshole on the net doesn’t buy into this long ago refuted argument.

This comes back to the question that I slyly asked before, about which source we should take for the "MOST CANNON" when they contradict. The SW sources have fewer but infanitely more crippling defects than the ST sources do!

Bull. http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Dat ... ery-ST.php

So then we must choose what defects we will ignore and how we will judge whats left. Hundreds of hours of every stock shot of ships moving at FTL speeds of several LY/SECOND in ST or "less than one parsec in 15 hours" in SW? (Again see the ST-v-SW web site for a detailed and flawless anallisys of this)

That “flawless” analysis has more holes than swiss cheese. One of its biggest problems is that it tries to use the zooming of the galaxy to accurately pinpoint Kamino while ADMITTING that the zooming is extremely blurry. Any REASONABLE person would admit that the blurry zooming makes any real analysis of that scene impossible.

YOU TELL ME, WHAT AND HOW DO WE CHOOSE OBJECTIVELY!

You can start by ignoring pseudo-science trash like st-v-sw.

[consequences]

The classics never fade...

Anyway, just so I understand it, I know canon evidence contradicts Han's claim of .5 past lightspeed (Meaning we know it to be much faster) But this is in the same universe where turbolasers aren't lasers at all, so, (Perhaps this is a fallacy, please point to me which one it is) So is it reasonable to say that the .5 past lightspeed is the same as, in some american english dialects, referring to all softdrinks as "Coke" Even though, by definition they are not?

Sounds good to me.

Here's my counter theory, to try to castrate Star Trek the way people seem determined to do to SW. Warp one is light speed, this is stated on-screen. So we can naturally assume that Warp 2 is 2x lightspeed, warp 3 is 3x, and on up to warp 9 at 9x.

[Mr Flibble]

Sorry to pick on one point, but I am lazy:

2. Even higher speeds by computing star travel in ALL the TV shows and ALL the movies by computing star interval verces known spacing here in this Galixy!

In First Contact the Phoenix, travels briefly at warp, and once again we see the "stars" flying past the windows, but when they drop out of warp, the Earth is still in visual range, hence the stars would not have appeared to move at all. They therefor boviously useless in calculating the velocity of the ships.

Your arguments are all rubbish, and have been demolished thoroughly by others here, give up, you aren't proving anything.

[consequences]

give up, you aren't proving anything.

He's proving he's an irredeemable git.

[Slartibartfast]

The classics never fade...

Anyway, just so I understand it, I know canon evidence contradicts Han's claim of .5 past lightspeed (Meaning we know it to be much faster) But this is in the same universe where turbolasers aren't lasers at all, so, (Perhaps this is a fallacy, please point to me which one it is) So is it reasonable to say that the .5 past lightspeed is the same as, in some american english dialects, referring to all softdrinks as "Coke" Even though, by definition they are not?

Nothing has to contradict the ".5 past lightspeed" quote, because he's not giving any units. For all we know, in this context, "lightspeed" is as slow as you could theoretically go (or NOT go) in hyperspace, 1 could be instant travel. Or it can be "0.5 gugaplexes" or whatever, meaning hundreds or thousands of lightyears/second/hour/thingy. It doesn't explicitly say "1.5 times lightspeed".

[Darth Wong]

Sorry to pick on one point, but I am lazy:

2. Even higher speeds by computing star travel in ALL the TV shows and ALL the movies by computing star interval verces known spacing here in this Galixy!

In First Contact the Phoenix, travels briefly at warp, and once again we see the "stars" flying past the windows, but when they drop out of warp, the Earth is still in visual range, hence the stars would not have appeared to move at all. They therefor boviously useless in calculating the velocity of the ships.

Your arguments are all rubbish, and have been demolished thoroughly by others here, give up, you aren't proving anything.

He also ignores the fact that his own "track star movement" method could just as easily be applied to the Falcon's jump to hyperspace and its characteristic "starstreak effect". Oops!

[Ma Deuce]

Isn't it high time Stewie gets a custom title? VI seems to good for him now, so what about "Darkstar's Cocksucking Whore"? Or maybe just "Darkstar's Cocksucker"?

[EmperorMing]

What's with the "ljuhome.com" prompt for a password when viewing this thread?

[Einhander Sn0m4n]

What's with the "ljuhome.com" prompt for a password when viewing this thread?

Meh, one of the pics I inlined. The website got pass-protected sometime after I inlined that pic. Damn shitheads...

[Illuminatus Primus]

Translation: I don't know that a three-dimensional object depicted on a two-dimensional image has depth.

You imbecile; Kamino is above and far behind the galaxy in that image. You're manufacturing contradictions to further your argument, making you an asshole and dishonest.

[Illuminatus Primus]

Time for a Classic Einhander Move™ to show Stewie@SDI my contempt for him:

/me aims Railgun at Stewie and pulls the trigger*

<(BZAPP!!!)>

{SPLAT!!}

*Sn0 laughs with glee as the Depleted-Uranium Rail Slug hits flesh at Mach 8. The massive hydroshock, the flash-vaporization, the violent stripping of flesh from bone, bone immediately shattering into tiny razor-sharp shards and getting propelled throughout his body at half the slug's speed instantly severs Stewart at SDI's body at the waist and flays it into a rapidly-expanding cloud of chunky gibs, jagged ribbons of cooked meat, and crimson salsa...*

Hey. Shut the fuck up.

And stop in-lining images.

[Einhander Sn0m4n]

Time for a Classic Einhander Move™ to show Stewie@SDI my contempt for him:

/me aims Railgun at Stewie and pulls the trigger*

<(BZAPP!!!)>

{SPLAT!!}

*Sn0 laughs with glee as the Depleted-Uranium Rail Slug hits flesh at Mach 8. The massive hydroshock, the flash-vaporization, the violent stripping of flesh from bone, bone immediately shattering into tiny razor-sharp shards and getting propelled throughout his body at half the slug's speed instantly severs Stewart at SDI's body at the waist and flays it into a rapidly-expanding cloud of chunky gibs, jagged ribbons of cooked meat, and crimson salsa...*

Hey. Shut the fuck up.

And stop in-lining images.

Ever heard of a little something called Fun? or a Joke for that matter?

BTW the fact that we're fighting each other over something relating to the Repugnant ShitstAin effectively means he has at least a tiny bit of power over us here. So, let's completely ignore him and cut off his information supply.

[Crown]

Cut it out guys.

[Einhander Sn0m4n]

Cut it out guys.

Good idea.

[Stuart Mackey]

We should have expected Darkstar-Influence from the beginning.

*Yoda* allways two there are, a master and an apprentice *Yoda*

[harbringer]

Hah! ages ago I said this guy was too stupid to get his own arguments and I was right!!!

Stewie the pond scum in my fish pond is more intelligent and convincing than RSA's website, the fact you can't see that <shrugs> you figure it out.