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Um. I meant to say 800 kilograms.

To be honest, the Killfuck program started when we still thought we co-operated more closely with the CSR

IIRC, the Buzzkill is just a modernized P-800 with awesome on-board electronics, new radar and a reduced RCS, designed to be spammed out of the Yer Mom class

I don't remember much about the Killfuck, though. At worst, we can treat it like a technology demonstrator at this point, at best it'll be another modified Russian design

Of course, I don't think it's that far-fetched for Shroomania to have its own long-standing AShM program, since there never was a NATO in this world, and they've been next door to the CSR and Japanistan for...forever

Let's just say that the Killfuck will be a missile with more strategic-oriented capabilities and is, like, our next generation missile.

We can keep the Buzzkills and work on the Killfuck further, making it moar advanced than those thinggies the CSRs have.

Shroom Man 777 wrote:Let's just say that the Killfuck will be a missile with more strategic-oriented capabilities and is, like, our next generation missile.

We can keep the Buzzkills and work on the Killfuck further, making it moar advanced than those thinggies the CSRs have.

Maybe. I am not too aware of what Buzzkill is supposed to do (Someone enlighten me here? I know I started work with Stas from the start with Stas, then the Buzzkill buzz word came along and I kinda got lost from that point. Is it supposed to be a MACH5 missile?).

That aside, We are working on the next missile to supercede the P-750 Meteorite. Give us time.... MACH6 and above on the way...

Just that we haven't revealed much about our plans.

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote: Maybe. I am not too aware of what Buzzkill is supposed to do (Someone enlighten me here? I know I started work with Stas from the start with Stas, then the Buzzkill buzz word came along and I kinda got lost from that point. Is it supposed to be a MACH5 missile?).

That aside, We are working on the next missile to supercede the P-750 Meteorite. Give us time.... MACH6 and above on the way...

Just that we haven't revealed much about our plans.

The Buzzkill is a supersonic AShM which will be one of the principal attack systems of the Yer Mom class submarines. It's a Mach 2 missile, quite literally a modified P-800.

I will flesh out the other weapon systems for the Yer Moms later, so that Shroom can rest easy

PeZook wrote:The Buzzkill is a supersonic AShM which will be one of the principal attack systems of the Yer Mom class submarines. It's a Mach 2 missile, quite literally a modified P-800.

I will flesh out the other weapon systems for the Yer Moms later, so that Shroom can rest easy

You mean a Brahmos II type missile? Ok.....

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:

PeZook wrote:The Buzzkill is a supersonic AShM which will be one of the principal attack systems of the Yer Mom class submarines. It's a Mach 2 missile, quite literally a modified P-800.

I will flesh out the other weapon systems for the Yer Moms later, so that Shroom can rest easy

You mean a Brahmos type missile? Ok.....

No, it's not the Brahmos. It's the SS-N-26 with updated electronics, and capable of being sub-launched (and, well, much cheaper )

The Brahmos is something out of this world, IIRC, with a stated Mach 8 attack speed and shit

PeZook wrote:No, it's not the Brahmos. It's the SS-N-26 with updated electronics, and capable of being sub-launched (and, well, much cheaper )

The Brahmos is something out of this world, IIRC, with a stated Mach 8 attack speed and shit

Ok.. Brahmos II type will take a while. For the moment, me and Stas will be content with deploying MACH 4-5 missiles.

Shroom Man 777 wrote: I think it would be cool if Karic, in a fit of genius, had facial reconstruction surgery by ripping the FACE OFF of a random Sjenskan and using it to replace his face.

Unfortunately, that particular random Sjenskan was a Shroomanian pedophile on the run from INTERSHROOM and so when Karic, with the pedophile's face, enters PeZookia, INTERSHROOM agents end up going hot on his trail.

They will never suspect that a man accused of jacking off to kiddie porn was actually planning the assassinations of a King and a Premier.

That was an awesome movie. I just watched it again the other day. I don't think the paedophilia part of your idea will be used but the face part probably will.

I think I should discuss the story with PeZook, before I start blowing shit up. So Mang any ideas, suggestions or no-no's?

Well...first of all, getting facial reconstructive surgery in fucking Sjenska would be a really bad idea

Mostly because of shit conditions, but also because, you know, Karic is the single most wanted man there?

His best bet would be to cross into Cascadia, then Vulpesia with a crapload of stolen money (hey, his government was a kleptocracy) and plan the attacks there, hiring mercenaries, buying friends, etc.

I'm not sure on the plan itself, though. Probably something involving carbombs?

Setting the initial stages in Vulpesia would be doubly awesome, because it's our very own Montenegro

I think it would be funny if Karic ended up getting the face of a wanted Shroomanian pedophile, so when he pops up in PeZookia, Shroomanian international police officers will end up recognizing him and will attempt to arrest him for sexual abuse offenses - with hilarious results!


PeZook:

The Killfuck missile must match whatever it is Fingolfin and Stas are designing for the future!

PeZook wrote:Well...first of all, getting facial reconstructive surgery in fucking Sjenska would be a really bad idea

Mostly because of shit conditions, but also because, you know, Karic is the single most wanted man there?

His best bet would be to cross into Cascadia, then Vulpesia with a crapload of stolen money (hey, his government was a kleptocracy) and plan the attacks there, hiring mercenaries, buying friends, etc.

I'm not sure on the plan itself, though. Probably something involving carbombs?

Setting the initial stages in Vulpesia would be doubly awesome, because it's our very own Montenegro

This is why your stories are always better than mine, because you have some awesome fucking ideas.

I'll put them to good use.

P.S. Sorry Shroom, I want this to be a serious story and Karic a real threat.

I have some bussines to take care of now so I'll start it up later.

P.P.S.
If anyone can provide awesome pictures of Nocholas Cage, it would be appreciated.

I edited my post on the Killfuck and added this gem:

Further enhancements will enlarge the Killfuck's capabilities, further improving its target-rape capabilities. This is just the beginning! I'm getting really excited (and hard) at the prospect of future developments! I have an erection!


Love,
Ernest

So that the current Killfuck that's been tested will only be further improved and enhanced as time goes by. So, right now, I guess it will be in prototype phase. Bleh.

The Buzzkill will be our intermediary for now!


NICK CAGE

NICK CAGER!


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And yeah, I have peacekeepers in Shepistan. If Stas won't do it, then I WILL!


Goddamn!

Byzantium has its hands full with annexed regions in the USSR. So we are staying out of the matter.

Welcome to our new submarine project.

Incidentally, the 45-degree tubes are large enough to house even newer missiles, so this design isn't going to retire soon.

That's a Typhoon, isn't it?

Well Shroomania shouldn't be prone to the USA errors, right?

They had the technology to make such missiles, so that is very well possible Shroom could have something like a hypersonic missile. So don't go too hard on Shroom.

Remember, mass of missile, speed, payload and range are all interconnected.

For example, if Shroom's missile has a 800 kg payload, that means it will weight around 5-8 tons (depending on construction materials), have a size similar to that of Vulkan/Granit/Bazalt, and speeds from Mach 2 to Mach 3, probably a little higher on impact, with ranges around 500 km (400-800).

If his missile has a 800 kg payload but weighs around 10-12 tons, it can fly thousands of kms at a cruise speed of Mach 3-4 at high altitudes.

I'm kinda curious what the goals of his missile are. Strategic? ASHM?

That's a Typhoon, isn't it?

Right.

Also, upon reading this new page you dudes wrote I understand. Shroom's Buzzkill is a more lightweight missile (possibly with Mach 3 cruise and a low flight profile), more ASHM oriented.

It's payload would be around 700 kg possibly, but range will be short (several hundred km).

Of course they're strategic, they were meant to deter the Goddamn Communists (but in truth they're actually meant as a precaution in case the Japs need slapping!).

I think I have stores for war bonds just for that occasion too! BUY WAR BONDS!

P.S. Mach 5 cruise and a range of 5000 km? Probably M=4 cruise, and M=5 terminal.

That's possible, but the missile would be very fucking heavy.

Think HELA, but instead of 10 tons that would be 15-16 tons, air-breathing ramjet (range comes with penalty).

Size? No kidding, but the missile would be around 12 m. long and with a wingspan of 6-7 m. It would reach 27 km altitude to achieve it's cruise speed.

The cruise range would have a slightly-under M=4 flight for 1 hour, then accelerate and finally arrive at M=5 descending on the target (on various pre-loaded descent profiles, of course).

Oh, and a 16-ton missile fitted on a ship so fast? Probably just one launcher - and it required to clear out a HUGE deck space Else, you'd be creating an entirely new class of cruisers.

Neither TICO nor BURKE could hold such massive missiles. Only a Kirov-class or similar craft.

Stas Bush wrote: Also, upon reading this new page you dudes wrote I understand. Shroom's Buzzkill is a more lightweight missile (possibly with Mach 3 cruise and a low flight profile), more ASHM oriented.

It's payload would be around 700 kg possibly, but range will be short (several hundred km).

Yeah, the Buzzkill is a pure AShM. The Yer Mom will carry Tomahawk knockoffs (lots of them) for strategic evilness at first, then maybe replaced with hypersonic cruise missiles at a later date. We needed to deploy a nice deterrent force fast.

The Killfuck is a next-generation Evil Strategic Missile. I think it's high time we detailed the various missile programs

BTW, Shroom, I will ratify the CCCP. I just don't have time to make a game post about it yet.

Stas Bush wrote:P.S. Mach 5 cruise and a range of 5000 km? Probably M=4 cruise, and M=5 terminal.

That's possible, but the missile would be very fucking heavy.

Think HELA, but instead of 10 tons that would be 15-16 tons, air-breathing ramjet (range comes with penalty).

Size? No kidding, but the missile would be around 12 m. long and with a wingspan of 6-7 m. It would reach 27 km altitude to achieve it's cruise speed.

The cruise range would have a slightly-under M=4 flight for 1 hour, then accelerate and finally arrive at M=5 descending on the target (on various pre-loaded descent profiles, of course).

Oh, and a 16-ton missile fitted on a ship so fast? Probably just one launcher - and it required to clear out a HUGE deck space Else, you'd be creating an entirely new class of cruisers.

Neither TICO nor BURKE could hold such massive missiles. Only a Kirov-class or similar craft.

DAH! Fine, I'll be launching it from... the Iron Shroom then. An aging Iowa-class battleship. We can modify it to carry just one launcher, for experimental purposes!

Don't worry, afterwards, the cleared deck space will probably be used as a museum or something. Or some sort of whore house.

Or the Prime Minister's yacht! Or all of the above! A museum-brothel-yacht!


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POST EDITTED! THERE! HAPPY NOW?!?!?!?!

Fuck it, this is what I get for basing my Navy on the Royal Navy.... which totally lacks cruisers! Bleeeh!

I'll be putting Buzzkills on my Ticos and Burkes then, if that's alright?

Also, there are guidance problems with hypersonics (I'm sure most know that). The missiles, when going so fast, can damage their own communication systems. I'm sure everyone knows it. Might not be so important for short-range "sprinter" AShMs like Brahmos, but for cruise missiles loss of guidance is bad...

That's why our Meteorit-M has a cruise speed of M=3. At such speeds, loss of communication and thus missile failure is less likely (even if still possible) and thus reliability is increased.

HELA based missiles can and will be lost in multitudes until practice perfects a method to make hypersonic flying machines more reliably communicating with cmmand centers.

Hrm... goddamn it, I didn't know any of that stuff!


(This is why I need the CCCP so badly!)

They also can't use IR guidance, because the air heats up to ridiculous temperatures as they cruise. Also, according to Stuart, the supersonics show up very early on IR detection systems - it's possible to know they're gunning for you while they're still over the horizon.

Of course, a Mach 3 missile launched by a submarine from 50 kilometers will cover the distance in 48 seconds, which is a huge advantage on its own

Of course, a Mach 3 missile launched by a submarine from 50 kilometers will cover the distance in 48 seconds, which is a huge advantage on its own

Yes, yes... I don't like enemy airfields full of bombers and fighters, so i decided to make a little something to render them unusable in case of war. A SSGN of such size lying in wait almost indefinetely if needed, and later release all it's missiles in a salvo.

Also, according to Stuart, the supersonics show up very early on IR detection systems

The thing is hard to conceal, that's basic physics. Something like a SR-71 will tick off every radar, even the worst one out there. The Meteorit likewise isn't stealth at all, but it has some countermeasures (wake air ionizers) to boot with the speed and all.