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DaveJB wrote:It's the first thing a Trek movie's won since Final Frontier got the "Worst Picture" Razzie, that's got to count for something.

You know, based strictly on early leaked screenshots, people thought Nemesis was going to be pretty cool too.

Doubtless some people did, but a lot more had their hopes for that one totally killed off by the leaked shots, since it confirmed that the leaked script was actually real, and not the fanboy-wank scribblings that it had been dismissed as.

Darth Wong wrote:I think your memory has been influenced retroactively by the post-release collapse of the film. Not only were Trekkies generally optimistic about the film prior to its release, but they remained optimistic even after its release, until it became obvious that this was a dressed-up turd. Just look at Richard Roeper, who argued with Ebert and insisted that it was an excellent film. You could almost smell the desperate Trekkie in his voice when he was giving the review.

DaveJB wrote:

Darth Wong wrote:I think your memory has been influenced retroactively by the post-release collapse of the film. Not only were Trekkies generally optimistic about the film prior to its release, but they remained optimistic even after its release, until it became obvious that this was a dressed-up turd. Just look at Richard Roeper, who argued with Ebert and insisted that it was an excellent film. You could almost smell the desperate Trekkie in his voice when he was giving the review.

Honestly, I don't remember seeing much enthusiasm for Nemesis on the web, even in mid-late 2002. Having said that though, I scrolled back to the earliest posts on this forum, and it actually does look like some people were really cheering it on. I guess the boards I was hanging around on back then must have been made up of more moderate and/or realistic Trek fans.

In regards to the slightly edited image of the USS Kelvin looking like a flipped Constitution class. It really wouldnt be the first time they've just turned a model around and moved a few bits and gone 'Hey look a totally new ship'

Anarchist Bunny wrote: A lot of people were putting a lot of faith into the Even/Odd correlation of Star Trek Movies(Odds are bad, TMP, FF, Gen and Insurrection, Evens are good, TWOK, TUC, FC(for TNG movies atleast)), atleast, thats how i recall it.

Rex Features
J.J. Abrams has revealed that Simon Pegg cried when he saw footage from the upcoming Star Trek movie.

Speaking to MTV, director Abrams said Pegg, who plays Scotty in the science fiction movie, wept after watching a clip on his iPhone.

"I showed Simon Pegg [footage] when we were at Comic-Con. I showed him this little trailer thing and it was my favorite thing ever.

"He literally started weeping. It was ridiculous. He was sitting there, I mean he must have been plastered. Because he was looking at my iPhone [crying]."

Abrams also confirmed that Star Trek will be "a two-hour movie", saying: "I'm sick of these two hours and forty-five minute movies. Seriously, it's like I don't have enough time to stay two hours and forty-five minutes. I'm exhausted just saying that twice. I can't stand it."

Edgar Wright, who directed Pegg in Shaun Of The Dead and Hot Fuzz, hinted on his MySpace blog that he had seen a finished version of Abrams's movie and preferred it to the Star Wars prequels.

"Yesterday I saw a film that does not get released until next summer," he wrote. "I can't say much more than that, except that it delivers all the goods sorely lacking from a certain trio of prequels. Exciting stuff."

tim31 wrote:Without wanting to go too far off track, what about TDK? Because that kept going, but it still kept me involved.

Other than that, I agree as well.

Bounty wrote:Three little titbits:

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The second bit - the rant against 2-hours-and-forty-five-minute-movies is one I concur with completely. Lately there's been too many blockbusters that really needed someone to trim them down to size. Pirates 3, I'm looking at you.

Kamakazie Sith wrote:Now I'm not saying that the movie will be bad, but a red flag always goes up for me when I hear of an actor having an emotional experience after watching/reading the film/script. I mean seriously. It's Star Trek...not going to be a life altering experience.

DaveJB wrote:I think that really says more about the actor than the film... although it does bring back uncomfortable memories of Harry Knowles blabbering on about how Armageddon moved him to tears.

DaveJB wrote:It certainly didn't have that effect on anyone I know! Most people I know that saw Armageddon said that they felt they should have felt that way, but it was so overplayed that it ended up looking silly. If anything, the corresponding sequence in Deep Impact was more affecting to me, anyway.

Plus, at heart, Abrams is still more of a Star Wars guy. ''All my smart friends liked Star Trek,'' he says. ''I preferred a more visceral experience.'' Which is exactly why he accepted Paramount's offer in 2005 to develop a new Trek flick; creatively, he was engaged by the possibility of a Star Trek movie ''that grabbed me the way Star Wars did.'' That meant a bigger budget and better special effects than any previous Trek film, plus freedom to reinvent the mythos as needed. ''We have worldwide aspirations and we need to broaden [Trek's] appeal,'' says Weston. ''Doing the half-assed version of this thing wasn't going to work.''

RedImperator wrote:If it's TOS era, I'd go with the classics: the Klingons. The smart pseudo-Russian Klingons from TOS, too. In fact, just so everyone knows the Space Vikings won't be making an appearance, the very first Klingon we see will be the Klingon ambassador to the Federation, wearing a jacket and tie.

Ryan Thunder wrote:

RedImperator wrote:If it's TOS era, I'd go with the classics: the Klingons. The smart pseudo-Russian Klingons from TOS, too. In fact, just so everyone knows the Space Vikings won't be making an appearance, the very first Klingon we see will be the Klingon ambassador to the Federation, wearing a jacket and tie.

I find it unreasonably difficult to visualize that.