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Posted: 2003-03-13 05:04pm
by Temjin
There was an article in today's newspaper about this. I would type the whole thing up, but it's big and I don't really want to. Instead, I will provide some choice quotes:
On the night she came to the aid of an injured man, Mcaulay (the driver) and a girlfriend had just left Tim Hourtin's where she had gone for coffee. She was not on her lunch break, she was simply test-driving her car, which had been beset by mechanical problems. The restraunt had no idea where she was, or when she would return. She was still on shift and being paid an hourly wage.
The restraunt's co-owner Randy Saluk says this was an ongoing problem.
"She's been warned several times," Saluk says, adding it was never acceptable for his drivers to cruise around town when thet were supposed to be working.
"She wouldn't wear a hair net in the kitchen. She wouldn't wear the apron that was part of the uniform."
While out at Tim Hourton's, McAulay's girlfriend got a call saying there had been gunshots heard near her friends house. They rushed over to to a stranger's place, six blocks from the restraunt. Mcaulay, who has no mediacal training, entered a side-by-side home, talked to the people there and saw the gunshot victim. She asked for a pillow and blanket and stayed with the victim untill police arrived.
McAualy arrived back at the restraunt 2 1/2 hours after she left. She was told she no longer had a job.
Saluk, whose partner Jason Boyd fired McAulay, says he regrets the firing happened the night she helped the man.

Posted: 2003-03-13 06:10pm
by Coyote
This brings a lot of light to the situation; it is probably surprising that she wasn't fired beforehand. Then it is an unfortunate coincidence that things snowballed to that night, causing things to look really bad for the manager.

Posted: 2003-03-13 06:55pm
by Kon_El
I delivered pizza for 5 years. I have had people ride with me all the time. I worked for Dominos and my friend worked for Pizza hut. I would show up at his work or he mine and we would ride around on deliverys while we made plans all the time. Its no big deal.

If I found out there was a shooting near a friends house I would be over there real quick regardless of if I was makeing a delivery.

Rules can be broken without repercution if there is a good enough reason. the manager was a dick. who cares though Im sure she had no problem finding a job working for their competition.

Posted: 2003-03-13 08:25pm
by neoolong
Kon_El wrote:I delivered pizza for 5 years. I have had people ride with me all the time. I worked for Dominos and my friend worked for Pizza hut. I would show up at his work or he mine and we would ride around on deliverys while we made plans all the time. Its no big deal.

If I found out there was a shooting near a friends house I would be over there real quick regardless of if I was makeing a delivery.

Rules can be broken without repercution if there is a good enough reason. the manager was a dick. who cares though Im sure she had no problem finding a job working for their competition.
Of course looking at it from the manager's position or the position of the owner, it becomes totally different.

Posted: 2003-03-13 09:23pm
by Sokar
Kon_El wrote:I delivered pizza for 5 years. I have had people ride with me all the time. I worked for Dominos and my friend worked for Pizza hut. I would show up at his work or he mine and we would ride around on deliverys while we made plans all the time. Its no big deal.

If I found out there was a shooting near a friends house I would be over there real quick regardless of if I was makeing a delivery.

Rules can be broken without repercution if there is a good enough reason. the manager was a dick. who cares though Im sure she had no problem finding a job working for their competition.
Then your management team were a bunch of lax idiots, hope they have all been fired for incompetence at this point. You would have never lasted three days in my Delivery Store. Also , rules are rules for a reason , not just for when they suit you, I would have had you terminated and banned from employment from Pizza Hut permanently. Your actions and the laxity of your management opened the company to all types of legal trouble and you blatantly violated company policies, ones you agreeded to abide by when they offered you employment. Hope you enjoy bouncing from job to job, because that attitude will get you fired in a big damn hurry at any real job.

Posted: 2003-03-13 09:26pm
by Kelly Antilles
Sokar wrote: Then your management team were a bunch of lax idiots, hope they have all been fired for incompetence at this point. You would have never lasted three days in my Delivery Store. Also , rules are rules for a reason , not just for when they suit you, I would have had you terminated and banned from employment from Pizza Hut permanently. Your actions and the laxity of your management opened the company to all types of legal trouble and you blatantly violated company policies, ones you agreeded to abide by when they offered you employment. Hope you enjoy bouncing from job to job, because that attitude will get you fired in a big damn hurry at any real job.
*jumps up and starts applauding*
Nicely said, Sokar.

Posted: 2003-03-13 09:35pm
by Darth Wong
Kon_El wrote:I delivered pizza for 5 years. I have had people ride with me all the time. I worked for Dominos and my friend worked for Pizza hut. I would show up at his work or he mine and we would ride around on deliverys while we made plans all the time. Its no big deal.
So you're the reason it took so goddamned long to get my pizza! Die, pizza boy!!!!

Posted: 2003-03-13 09:53pm
by Sokar
Kelly Antilles wrote:
Sokar wrote: Then your management team were a bunch of lax idiots, hope they have all been fired for incompetence at this point. You would have never lasted three days in my Delivery Store. Also , rules are rules for a reason , not just for when they suit you, I would have had you terminated and banned from employment from Pizza Hut permanently. Your actions and the laxity of your management opened the company to all types of legal trouble and you blatantly violated company policies, ones you agreeded to abide by when they offered you employment. Hope you enjoy bouncing from job to job, because that attitude will get you fired in a big damn hurry at any real job.
*jumps up and starts applauding*
Nicely said, Sokar.
*bows* Thank you Kelly :)

Posted: 2003-03-13 10:36pm
by LordChaos
Perinquus wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:
Perinquus wrote:She lost him a sale?!? She lost him a sale?!?!

YOU GOTTA BE FUCKING KIDDING ME!!!

That is a reasonable justification for witholding lifesaving assistance? So you can make sure a fucking pizza parlor gets a few more lousy dollars? Better that extra ten bucks in the till than a human life saved?
Irrelevant. The question is not whether she did the right thing by saving a life.

If you're working as a security guard and you protect some woman by fighting off some would-be rapists in a back-alley behind a nightclub down the street, you would be a hero. Unfortunately, you would also be in gross dereliction of duty because you were supposed to be at the fucking warehouse, not at a local nightclub, and you would be deservedly fired.
Have you read the entire thread Mike? I agreed earlier that the woman should be subject to discipline for being out of her area, and for having an unauthorized passenger - though termination might not be necessary, depending on her work record.
I've been terminated for accedently bumping into someone and knocking them down when I had an exemplary record.

I've been terminated when I had an exemplary recard WITH recomendations from higher management for doing an outstanding job in the past, because I got into an argument with another employee who wasn't following procedures, but just happened to have senoirity over me.

The driver violated a MAJOR company policy by having a non-employee in the vehicle with her. In ANY delivery profession, that's grounds for an IMEDIATE termination for 1st offense.

Posted: 2003-03-13 10:37pm
by LordChaos
Perinquus wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:
Perinquus wrote:She lost him a sale?!? She lost him a sale?!?!

YOU GOTTA BE FUCKING KIDDING ME!!!

That is a reasonable justification for witholding lifesaving assistance? So you can make sure a fucking pizza parlor gets a few more lousy dollars? Better that extra ten bucks in the till than a human life saved?
Irrelevant. The question is not whether she did the right thing by saving a life.

If you're working as a security guard and you protect some woman by fighting off some would-be rapists in a back-alley behind a nightclub down the street, you would be a hero. Unfortunately, you would also be in gross dereliction of duty because you were supposed to be at the fucking warehouse, not at a local nightclub, and you would be deservedly fired.
Have you read the entire thread Mike? I agreed earlier that the woman should be subject to discipline for being out of her area, and for having an unauthorized passenger - though termination might not be necessary, depending on her work record.
I've been terminated for accedently bumping into someone and knocking them down when I had an exemplary record.

I've been terminated when I had an exemplary recard WITH recomendations from higher management for doing an outstanding job in the past, because I got into an argument with another employee who wasn't following procedures, but just happened to have senoirity over me.

The driver violated a MAJOR company policy by having a non-employee in the vehicle with her. In ANY delivery profession, that's grounds for an IMEDIATE termination for 1st offense.

Posted: 2003-03-13 10:37pm
by LordChaos
Perinquus wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:
Perinquus wrote:She lost him a sale?!? She lost him a sale?!?!

YOU GOTTA BE FUCKING KIDDING ME!!!

That is a reasonable justification for witholding lifesaving assistance? So you can make sure a fucking pizza parlor gets a few more lousy dollars? Better that extra ten bucks in the till than a human life saved?
Irrelevant. The question is not whether she did the right thing by saving a life.

If you're working as a security guard and you protect some woman by fighting off some would-be rapists in a back-alley behind a nightclub down the street, you would be a hero. Unfortunately, you would also be in gross dereliction of duty because you were supposed to be at the fucking warehouse, not at a local nightclub, and you would be deservedly fired.
Have you read the entire thread Mike? I agreed earlier that the woman should be subject to discipline for being out of her area, and for having an unauthorized passenger - though termination might not be necessary, depending on her work record.
I've been terminated for accedently bumping into someone and knocking them down when I had an exemplary record.

I've been terminated when I had an exemplary recard WITH recomendations from higher management for doing an outstanding job in the past, because I got into an argument with another employee who wasn't following procedures, but just happened to have senoirity over me.

The driver violated a MAJOR company policy by having a non-employee in the vehicle with her. In ANY delivery profession, that's grounds for an IMEDIATE termination for 1st offense.

Posted: 2003-03-13 10:41pm
by LordChaos
sorry for the tripple post.