Patrick Degan wrote:From what I'm hearing so far, it's a sure bet neither of these clowns would survive a few rounds in these forums. This is almost as bad as the performance two of my classmates gave in the mock presidential debate in our civics class back in 1980.
You can't expect a verbal debate, especially one with this format, to be as logically as a written one.
That being said, this is funny to watch.
And Bush just blanked for a few seconds. Beautiful!
Kerry's style is certainly polished, but he's stumbling all over the place where he should, at this point, be totally bitchslapping Bush. Neither is he successfully blunting Bush's repetitious bullshit about his record and his statements.
And now he's invoking Vietnam again. Kerry leans on it like a crutch, and he really should not have to do so; not with the mess Georgie the Wonder Chimp's made of everything.
And here's Bush laying back on the "Kerry the Flipflopper" line and Kerry not stomping him down on it.
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ROFL, yes yes, must stay on course even when you don't have the proof behind the war in Iraq.
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Ok, this 30 second shit is dumb. They're using the damn thing for every question. Just extend the damn times.....
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But as far as board culture in general, I do think that young male overaggression is a contributing factor to the general atmosphere of hostility. It's not SOS and the Mess throwing hand grenades all over the forum- Red
Haha, Kerry just said Iraq is good for Israel, too.
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I'm studying for the CPA exam. Have a nice summer, and if you're down just sit back and realize that Joe is off somewhere, doing much worse than you are.
All right, with the Pottery Barn thing, Kerry just said Iraq was a mistake, AGAIN.
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I'm studying for the CPA exam. Have a nice summer, and if you're down just sit back and realize that Joe is off somewhere, doing much worse than you are.
One thing that's really surprised me; Bush is the details guy tonight, Kerry is more vague. It's like the opposite of the first 2000 debate.
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I'm studying for the CPA exam. Have a nice summer, and if you're down just sit back and realize that Joe is off somewhere, doing much worse than you are.
Is anyone but me finding the whole idea of a stoplight system irritating?
And it's great how Bush stumbles for the first few seconds every time he tries to respond. He looks fine when he gets going, but during that little 'rev-up' time, his verbal skills are rather blatantly lacking compared to Kerry.
Badme wrote:And it's great how Bush stumbles for the first few seconds every time he tries to respond. He looks fine when he gets going, but during that little 'rev-up' time, his verbal skills are rather blatantly lacking compared to Kerry.
An accomplished verbal debater, President Bush is not.
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frigidmagi wrote:Not having guards would be sudical right now.
Still a fucking SEAL team? WTF?
They wanted to assign mercs, but no one wanted the job saying it was impossible so they assigned a SEAL team to him. He lives in seclusion in an undisclosed location in Iraq.
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The problem here is that all Bush is doing is repeating the same thing over and over again, memorized some quotes and soundbytes, and calling Kerry a flip-flopper. It's like watching a carefully coached twelve year old in an interview. I'm not trying to insult him, but that's exactly what he sounds like; he's not debating, he's regurgitating what his advisors told him to say over and over. Kerry isn't doing that, he's actually debating alright, in his own Kerry sort of way.
Oh, Mr. President... "speaking clearly"? Coming from a man who seems to be incapable of saying "doesn't it?", but instead says "dunnit?"
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