Page 5 of 7
Posted: 2005-08-03 06:57am
by Duckie
Sir Sirius wrote:No he did not commit an appeal to authority in that post. I do not quite understand what he hopes to achieve by listing world famous successful people who supposedly had Asperger's, but an appeal to authority it was not.
There has to be some sort of fallacy for listing exceptional members of a group and claiming they are the standard, though I can't remember what one it is.
However the more interesting, not to mention disturbing, question is why did he place Theodore Kaczynski - better know as the Unabomber - in his list of successful people with Asberger's? Ok, Kaczynski does have a Ph.D. in mathematics, but that is not what he is known for.
He probably just searched for "Ph.Ds with Aspergers". Or "Famous People with Aspergers".
Posted: 2005-08-03 07:06am
by Dakarne
I was using them as an example that Asperger's Syndrome isn't a severe disability, and that there's plenty of very influential people throughout history with it.
Posted: 2005-08-03 07:08am
by Tiger Ace
Except we never said that, but we DID say that it IS a disability and you can dress it up pretty and trot out pretty horses, but its still a disability and a handicap.
Posted: 2005-08-03 07:10am
by Dakarne
I may be Socially Handicapped, but it doesn't affect my ability to function (too much at least).
Posted: 2005-08-03 07:13am
by Tiger Ace
Dakarne wrote:I may be Socially Handicapped, but it doesn't affect my ability to function (too much at least).
Concession accepted fuckwad.
Posted: 2005-08-03 07:15am
by Dakarne
Concession accepted fuckwad.
Fuck Wad, as in I fuck Wads, or I'm a Wad that fucks?
(don't mind me, I pick apart insults daily)
Posted: 2005-08-03 07:16am
by WyrdNyrd
MRDOD wrote:
There has to be some sort of fallacy for listing exceptional members of a group and claiming they are the standard, though I can't remember what one it is.
Converse accident / Hasty generalization
Posted: 2005-08-03 07:16am
by Tiger Ace
Fuckwad, as in a peice of paper where people clean up after their touchings.
Posted: 2005-08-03 07:18am
by Dakarne
Fuckwad, as in a peice of paper where people clean up after their touchings.
Ah... so a Fucktard would be a Fucking Bastard I imagine.
Posted: 2005-08-03 08:22am
by Keevan_Colton
Dakarne wrote:Fuckwad, as in a peice of paper where people clean up after their touchings.
Ah... so a Fucktard would be a Fucking Bastard I imagine.
And Pointless Attention/Acceptance Whore Spammer would be Darkane.
Get your signal to noise ration up or your post count will start rolling backwards.
Posted: 2005-08-03 08:40am
by Dakarne
Someone just lock the bloody thread, neither opinion is going to change in the next millenium, so the Thread is pointless..
Posted: 2005-08-03 08:42am
by Tiger Ace
Concession accepted fuckwad. Mk2, It would greatly help if you didn't write that and instead just stop posting like you promised to do a few pages back.
Posted: 2005-08-03 08:45am
by Dakarne
Insults are pointless you realise... since they do nothing but serve to irritate the recipiant... and I'm not getting irritated by them... so you might as well not bother.
Posted: 2005-08-03 08:53am
by Tiger Ace
Pointless? no, they serve to relax, flame you, and untill someone commits a style over substance fallacy you shouldn't call anyone on flaming you.
So bugger off with a pair of mops.
Posted: 2005-08-03 08:56am
by Dakarne
Like I said earlier, let's agree to disagree and just drop the whole subject... Arguing isn't solving anything.
Posted: 2005-08-03 09:00am
by Tiger Ace
How about lets agree that your a fuckwit who won't conceed that hes a needlessly nitpicking son of pumpkin.
Posted: 2005-08-03 09:01am
by Dakarne
I concede if it'll shut you up.
Posted: 2005-08-03 09:16am
by NecronLord
I wonder has it occured to anyone here that the advantages of autism, such that there are, would be easy enough to keep without the disadvantages, utilising SW genetech.
Posted: 2005-08-03 09:19am
by Tiger Ace
Asumming SW humans have the same DNA, it would be incredibly hard to isolate, there is so much cross dependent stuff that I doubt we can isolate the advanteges.
Posted: 2005-08-03 09:21am
by Dakarne
Tiger Ace is right...
But I imagine, given 25000 years of development, that it wouldn't be too hard.
Posted: 2005-08-03 10:40am
by NecronLord
Tiger Ace wrote:Asumming SW humans have the same DNA, it would be incredibly hard to isolate, there is so much cross dependent stuff that I doubt we can isolate the advanteges.
Have you
seen the crap they can pull? They can make a human go.
"Right, this empire's evil, I'm defecting..." *ZONK* "I fucking love the empire!"
That happens to GeNode stormtroopers every time they consider something bad about the Empire. ZONK - back to full loyalty. At their tech level, the human mind is an open book.
Posted: 2005-08-03 10:47am
by Dakarne
Yep...
They can... do you ever think that they could deliberately alter Stormtroopers with the Obsessive Parts of Asperger's and then focus those obsessions onto Serving the Empire.
Just a thought from your friendly neighbourhood "fuckwit who won't conceed that hes a needlessly nitpicking son of pumpkin."
Posted: 2005-08-03 11:14am
by Trytostaydead
I'm surprised this thread has continued for this long. The mods must either be asleep or afk.. either that or they're enjoying this.
I have the sense that this thread was made with the sole purpose so that Dakarne could make himself feel better about his condition and how great it would be to have it, probably not in this world, but the Star Wars world. And I just have two things to say:
1) An online community that knows almost nothing about your syndrome, is made up of angry and unsympathetic nerds, is HARDLY the best place to look for someone to pat your head and say, "Yes yes, you'd make a great Jedi."
2) Actually, I'm pretty sure Stormtroopers would be diagnosed with Asperger if one came to Earth with the way they are genetically modified and trained. They only have one purpose in life, they're probably immune to be phazed by most body languages (though it doesn't mean they can't read it), they all have normal IQs, and since it was programmed into them, it's a neurobiological thing as well. Does that make you happy now?
Posted: 2005-08-03 11:57am
by Dakarne
1) An online community that knows almost nothing about your syndrome, is made up of angry and unsympathetic nerds, is HARDLY the best place to look for someone to pat your head and say, "Yes yes, you'd make a great Jedi."
I was never actually looking for that... I was wondering what the Jedi's reaction to Asperger's Syndrome and related Autism would actually be...
And people's opinions on it.
2) Actually, I'm pretty sure Stormtroopers would be diagnosed with Asperger if one came to Earth with the way they are genetically modified and trained. They only have one purpose in life, they're probably immune to be phazed by most body languages (though it doesn't mean they can't read it), they all have normal IQs, and since it was programmed into them, it's a neurobiological thing as well. Does that make you happy now?
Perhaps, I wouldn't know for sure, but Stormtroopers are obviously brainwashed with some form of Obsessive Disorder...
Posted: 2005-08-03 12:04pm
by Trytostaydead
Dakarne wrote:1) An online community that knows almost nothing about your syndrome, is made up of angry and unsympathetic nerds, is HARDLY the best place to look for someone to pat your head and say, "Yes yes, you'd make a great Jedi."
I was never actually looking for that... I was wondering what the Jedi's reaction to Asperger's Syndrome and related Autism would actually be...
And people's opinions on it.
In the more civilized worlds, I doubt you'd see many cases, their medical technology is far beyond ours. Though if they tolerated Jar Jar Binks, don't you think they'd tolerate someone with autism, or did you think they'd lop off their heads with their lightsaber?
As for people's opinion, didn't you post a thread in SLAM already? Seriously, what are you looking for?