Star Wars: Legacy (set 145 ABY and starring Cade Skywalker)

000 · Post by **000** » 2006-06-07 11:01pm

I dunno, Emperor Fel is so outta left field I kind of like it.

DesertFly · Post by **DesertFly** » 2006-06-07 11:29pm

I haven't seen this yet (though that may change), but the new updates have rekindled a spark of hope (though small) in my heart. At the very least, this new Empire doesn't seem to be evil at all, just an alternative to the NR, and that makes me happy.

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2006-06-07 11:44pm

Stil burned out on the post-ROTJ EU and this isn't helping...

000 · Post by **000** » 2006-06-07 11:51pm

Read Betrayal-- it'll cure your pessimism right up.

Legacy is looking to me better with each new thing I learn about it. I'll reserve judgement, positive or negative, until I read an issue or two, but I'm actually liking the idea so far.

Chris OFarrell · Post by **Chris OFarrell** » 2006-06-08 12:04am

I have brought almost every EU book through the NJO and the Dark Nests were the last straw.

A new EMPIRE? A new SITH ORDER?

Star Wars is dead to me now. THis is kind of trash plot deserves none of my cash.

Connor MacLeod · Post by **Connor MacLeod** » 2006-06-08 12:06am

Chris OFarrell wrote:I have brought almost every EU book through the NJO and the Dark Nests were the last straw.

A new EMPIRE? A new SITH ORDER?

Star Wars is dead to me now. THis is kind of trash plot deserves none of my cash.

It gets better. Betrayal has Jacen becoming another Anakin

Post by **Vympel** » 2006-06-08 12:14am

Connor MacLeod wrote:
It gets better. Betrayal has Jacen becoming another Anakin

They just won't let it go, will they?

18-Till-I-Die · Post by **18-Till-I-Die** » 2006-06-08 12:15am

Why couldnt Anakin become the new Anakin.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2006-06-08 12:19am

18-Till-I-Die wrote:Why couldnt Anakin become the new Anakin.

GL actually had him axed because of name issues.

As for this thing........I still stand by my thoughts early on. Bad fanfic.

000 · Post by **000** » 2006-06-08 12:20am

It gets better. Betrayal has Jacen becoming another Anakin

I keep hearing that comparison, and I really don't see it at all.

18, if you mean Anakin Solo, well-- being a pile of ashes kinda makes that difficult.

Connor MacLeod · Post by **Connor MacLeod** » 2006-06-08 12:23am

Jacen is pretty effing dense. This is what, the second time he's had a "vision of galactic doom that only he can stop?" Didn't we go through that in the Dark Nest? So now he feels that to save everyone he has to become a Sith? Trained by Lumiya? I mean come on! he even has to kill a Jedi as part of the process? Reemmber Mace Windu? And to be manipualted by Lumiya of all people makes Anakin look sophisticated and canny by comparison! And did I mention the implication of that Evil Sith Ghost Guy probably controlling things?

000 · Post by **000** » 2006-06-08 12:31am

Jacen is extremely arrogant and sure of his abilities, but he's not a whole lot like Anakin otherwise. I mean, yes, you could draw paralells between him killing Nelani and Anakin killing Mace, and so on, but if you're going superficial like that Ulic, Exar, and company all fit the same mold.

Anakin becomes a Sith out of a pathological fear of those he cares for dying; Jacen does out of a unquenchable thirst for knowledge. Anakin kills Mace because he was about to kill Palpatine-- it was a split-second decision borne of pure panic. Jacen kills Nelani because he's overly confident in his visions. Anakin becomes a Sith and immediately turns on those he loves; Jacen still cares about his family and so on.

I'm not saying Jacen is right or not a bit gullible, not by a long shot-- but his situation and Anakins are hardly comparable.

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2006-06-08 12:42am

I'm not going to prejudge anything. I'll wait until it comes out. For the record, I'm not so pessimistic about this than some other people. For nothing else I'll pick it up because Jan Durresma's artwork is pretty good as far as I'm concerned.

Fingolfin_Noldor · Post by **Fingolfin_Noldor** » 2006-06-08 02:30am

000 wrote:I dunno, Emperor Fel is so outta left field I kind of like it.

I wonder who gave the Fel line Jedi powers. Jaina or some other damnable Force sensitive.

Mange · Post by **Mange** » 2006-06-08 02:50am

The more I learn about this, the less I like it. I've never been into comics, but storywise...
*A resurgent Sith-order despite the fact that the Sith was exterminated in ROTJ?

*The Empire which was defeated and reduced to a tiny leftover has defeated and conqured the GA after the Sith-Imperial War?

* A secessionist movement brought on by the sabotage of worlds restored by Yuuzhan Vong technology?

* A Moff council?

* A Pellaeon-class Star Dreadnought?

* Who came up with the names? "Kol" and "Cade" Skywalker? Emperor "Roan Fel"? Darth "Krayt"? Did he have wings and did he fly around Tatooine or what?

I'm sorry, but this sounds like a bad fanfic to me and it obliterates everything that was accomplished in the original movies and beyond and that only a hundred years after the NJO. Man, Luke and the rest must've screwed up pretty badly.

Cao Cao · Post by **Cao Cao** » 2006-06-08 05:25am

This is what happens when you let fanboys write comics..

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2006-06-08 06:53am

It seems to me that they only reason they are dusting off the Empire again is because the Empire was cool. However, chances are the Old Republic was alot like the Empire already by the time that Palpatine formally made it one and stopped playing lip service to democracy. After all, governments that have existed for stupidly long periods of time like 25,000 years don't dramatically change in the span of the StarWars movies. No matter how slick Palpatine was, no single individual can really effect the social interia of an entire galactic government unless it was pretty damn ready to change already. It's not that unreasonable that the New Republic's attempt to restore the supposed ideals of the Old Republic would fail, post-Empire. After all, by the very necessity of the Empire's existance after that long of a continuous government, the galaxy itself must have been really ready for a dictatorship and alot more used to it than republican ideals. Relapsing into the Empire again, so long as Palpatine doesn't show up, doesn't bother me in the least.

Mange · Post by **Mange** » 2006-06-08 07:22am

000 wrote:Read Betrayal-- it'll cure your pessimism right up.

Legacy is looking to me better with each new thing I learn about it. I'll reserve judgement, positive or negative, until I read an issue or two, but I'm actually liking the idea so far.

I've heard that Betrayal is pretty good. However, I'll pass on it for now because of the person who has written the second (and the fifth and the eighth) novel in the series. Perhaps I'll change my mind eventually.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2006-06-08 08:17am

Naturally, Wookiepedia's on the job and have gathered an index of entries so far:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Legacy_series_index

I'm warming up to the Pellaeon-class, it's got some Vengeance-reminicent attributes. The forward-sloping hull also makes more sense, gun-wise, than the older classes.

FTeik · Post by **FTeik** » 2006-06-08 10:07am

Technically the GalacticRepublic of the PT is "only" thousand years old. Before that there were another thousand years of war against the Sith.

Pellaeon-Class, now is this a KDY-vessel or not? And do they call it a Star Dreadnought or still kling to the SuperStarDestroyer-BS?

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2006-06-08 10:13am

Super Star Destroyer!!!!1111!!!111111111111111

I had one hell of an argument over this today. I did admit, with the changing times, in 100 years they might have different conventions to PT/OT-era ship names. Hey, it happened in rl. If I said anything else, I'd be a hypocrite, like McEwok.

Pax Britannia · Post by **Pax Britannia** » 2006-06-08 10:19am

Right now I think the Pellaeon-class is hideous. Then again I'll wait until i see a few more pictures before making a final judgement..

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2006-06-08 10:23am

Pax Britannia wrote:Right now I think the Pellaeon-class is hideous. Then again I'll wait until i see a few more pictures before making a final judgement..

I like it, though I haven't seen enough images. It doesn't look bad, IMO.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2006-06-08 10:23am

That 3D pyramidal design makes more sense than the older 2D-focused classes. Unfortunately, it also makes it look a lot uglier.

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2006-06-08 10:24am

VT-16 wrote:That 3D pyramidal design makes more sense than the older 2D-focused classes. Unfortunately, it also makes it look a lot uglier.

Huh? Wha-? Eh?