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Journalist.CaptainChewbacca wrote:Forgive me, what is a "JOURNO"? Does that mean something in Mando'a?
Since when do journalists naturally have an aversion to reading (as she implies they do naturally)?PayBack wrote:Journalist.CaptainChewbacca wrote:Forgive me, what is a "JOURNO"? Does that mean something in Mando'a?
Oh please, you think she is intelligent and dedicated enough to actually try and understand the intricacies of creating languages? Shit like that takes research and planning. We all know exactly how much of that she does.CaptainChewbacca wrote:Also, as someone who is a big enough nerd to fabricate fictional languages, using an apostraphe to make something sound exotic is the first sign you don't know what you're doing. Never use apostraphes unless it is supposed to signify a sound that doesn't exist in the english language (like a glottal stop), and never do basic word substitution.
What galls me is if she'd typed "create a language" into google, that would've been on the first link available.Ar-Adunakhor wrote:Oh please, you think she is intelligent and dedicated enough to actually try and understand the intricacies of creating languages? Shit like that takes research and planning. We all know exactly how much of that she does.CaptainChewbacca wrote:Also, as someone who is a big enough nerd to fabricate fictional languages, using an apostraphe to make something sound exotic is the first sign you don't know what you're doing. Never use apostraphes unless it is supposed to signify a sound that doesn't exist in the english language (like a glottal stop), and never do basic word substitution.
When basic logic is beyond someone's comprehension, you don't expect for them to be able to do any more than pure world replacement and random sprinkling of apostrophes. I doubt she even has real word modifiers or a set rule for tenses.
As far as I can gather (from Wikipedia), Mando'a contains about three types of word modifiers, some of which are single letters with, you guessed it, an apostrophe at the end. It also seems to lack tense completely.Ar-Adunakhor wrote:When basic logic is beyond someone's comprehension, you don't expect for them to be able to do any more than pure world replacement and random sprinkling of apostrophes. I doubt she even has real word modifiers or a set rule for tenses.
Jim Raynor wrote:Can somebody find the quote where she says this? I would love to see it. If she hates reading so much, then what the fuck is she doing writing?
Karen Traviss Feb 26 2006, 09:43 PM Post #59
Well, I haven't actually read any - started on a few, leafed through a few, but by and large, nada. Seriously. My inability to read is well known - I hate reading, and I can't absorb data from fiction. And riffling through a manuscript on scan to find continuity stuff isn't reading, because you filter out so much. (I speed read at two seconds a page, and it might work for reports but it doesn't work for fiction - not for me, anyway) Ask Troy how many times he had to remind me what was in DN.
Del Rey tried audiobooks for me, which I enjoyed as much as radio drama, but I didn't recall a damn thing. Basically, everything I get comes from the Holocron. Data. I process data. Once I see words, I start to edit.
It's impolitic to name any colleague's book, but I loved the SW tourist phrasebook. Hilarious.
Intellectual laziness.Batman wrote:Okay, colour me stupid but what is the difference between reading words in a printed book and reading words on a Valendamned webpage?
Where is this from?apocolypse wrote:LOL....does anyone think this Karen Traviss quote I found is rather....ironic given the current circumstances?
"People in big important jobs do stupid things. Then they try to cover them up, which is even more stupid. "
It's from thisinterview. It's a bit long and wordy, I wound up skimming a lot of it. It's in the third paragraph of the first question asked of her. Hope it helps.Darth Culator wrote:Where is this from?apocolypse wrote:LOL....does anyone think this Karen Traviss quote I found is rather....ironic given the current circumstances?
"People in big important jobs do stupid things. Then they try to cover them up, which is even more stupid. "
I may have a good use for it, if it has a verifiable source.
Or to be more precise, books tend to have a lot more words in them than webpages do. Webpages are, to a large extent, designed for people with limited attention spans.Lord Poe wrote:Intellectual laziness.Batman wrote:Okay, colour me stupid but what is the difference between reading words in a printed book and reading words on a Valendamned webpage?
Every time someone has even the smallest negative comment on her work, she'll retort that her Star Wars stories are "real" and rough, and some people don't like facing that...Connor MacLeod wrote:Oh yeah, and is it just me, or does she seem to have changed her story again? Now she's trying to come across as if she's some dedicated SW analyst just like Saxton and that makes her a serious SW something-or-other.)
I'm looking at YOU, John Ringo and David Webber...Jim Raynor wrote:Wait, is she now saying that we hate her because we can't like mature, realistic and gritty stories? And here I was thinking that she sucked because she had a pair of ovaries, and that I could make a name for myself on the internet by going after her.
Anyone who thinks that a story based on Rambo-like "uber special forcez" is realistic is a complete, utter idiot.
Basically, welcome to my world. Then I posted a link to my page refuting Moose's bullshit. Got neutral to positive response until Moose Christ decided to forgive the PLB. Now they won't have anything to do with anyone nasty!Vympel wrote:What did you say?
It appears to be gone now. Pussies.Vympel wrote:Link to the guy telling the story of what happened