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Ryan Thunder wrote:So, uh, did anybody think that my Cossack-scale blended-wing body missile boat was feasible?

It is. Just lots of engines and lots of fuel. The length would be around 70 meters - or at least so it is for most such projects that I know existed.

Uh, and I planned a "SAN DORADO IS SUDDENLY NUKED WITH ALL HEADS OF STATE" post for April Fools, but then decided against it

Stas Bush wrote:

Ryan Thunder wrote:So, uh, did anybody think that my Cossack-scale blended-wing body missile boat was feasible?

It is. Just lots of engines and lots of fuel. The length would be around 70 meters - or at least so it is for most such projects that I know existed.

Uh, and I planned a "SAN DORADO IS SUDDENLY NUKED WITH ALL HEADS OF STATE" post for April Fools, but then decided against it

I have an heir. No worries.

Stas Bush wrote:

Ryan Thunder wrote:So, uh, did anybody think that my Cossack-scale blended-wing body missile boat was feasible?

It is. Just lots of engines and lots of fuel. The length would be around 70 meters - or at least so it is for most such projects that I know existed.

I scaled up a B-2 Spirit to that scale and that's about the number I got. Cool.

Oh, and it'd be nuclear-powered. That'd eat up alot of weight, but it'd probably be better than guzzling jet fuel...

Uh, and I planned a "SAN DORADO IS SUDDENLY NUKED WITH ALL HEADS OF STATE" post for April Fools, but then decided against it

I should do it as part of a nuke test. By accident, of course.

"HOLY SHIT THAT MISSILE WENT THE WRONG WAY! TURN IT OFF TURN IT OFF!!!"

Uh...nuclear powered how?

Would it use plasma generated from superheated air, thus spewing nuclear death over every place it passes?

Or a gigantic battery of turbofan engines, perhaps?

You should probably try some basic calculations to estimate the energy requirements from tonnage you're planning.

You guys don't want to turn our dearly beloved Prime Minister into SHROOMZILLA for April Fools, do you?

April Fool's is when everyone in Shroomania has straight sex for a day?

It's the one day a year they have a shot at maintaining a population base!

GODAMMIT!

The board just ATE MY MOONBEAM MADNESS POST! ARGH!!!!

FUCK! Try using your history or something!

RogueIce wrote:

DarthShady wrote:Is it just me, or has Fin gotten really trigger happy lately?

Lately?

Yeah, I see what you mean.

Oh and I was totally gonna nuke you for being an AntiShroomite, as a joke. But I didn't have time.

Here! The Madness continues!

That...Was certainly unexpected. You gotta feel sorry for the director; he did tell everyone this would happen.

Oh my god! RALSON! KEEP QUIET OR EVERYONE WILL KNOW!

EDIT:

VALHALLA! MUWAHAHAHAHAHA!

Shroom Man 777 wrote:Oh my god! RALSON! KEEP QUIET OR EVERYONE WILL KNOW!

Not untill they find the flight recorder they won't

And, actually, they won't.

Well, one guy'll find it, but he's practically just as bad! (If not loopier!)

DarthShady wrote:Oh and I was totally gonna nuke you for being an AntiShroomite, as a joke. But I didn't have time.

I'm no AntiShroomite. We still allow mushrooms to be used as a topping on pizza, for example.

PeZook wrote:Uh...nuclear powered how?

Would it use plasma generated from superheated air, thus spewing nuclear death over every place it passes?

Or a gigantic battery of turbofan engines, perhaps?

You should probably try some basic calculations to estimate the energy requirements from tonnage you're planning.

Nuclear powered in the same way that a submarine is, I figure.

They tried something similar in the 60s or the 70s.

I theorize that it could be done with the equivalent of about nine J-58 engines. It'd be less if they're afterburning, but the fuel costs alone would be absolutely absurd. That should consume around 1 MW at a cruising speed of 870 km/h.

Of course, I'm realizing after some thought that you can't exactly run a turbojet off of a nuclear reactor without it becoming an unparalleled ecological disaster, so we might just have to eat the fuel costs and reserve them for emergencies... I refuse to put propellers on anything meant to be stealthy.

That's not the problem. They did figure out how to run a heat exchanger to the turbojets so that it runs off the heat from the reactor, instead of heat from burning jet fuel. The problem is that there's not enough lift capacity to be able to shield anything other than the crew compartment. So you're kinda screwed if you want to, you know, re arm the damn things without using an entirely robotic system.

Beowulf wrote:That's not the problem. They did figure out how to run a heat exchanger to the turbojets so that it runs off the heat from the reactor, instead of heat from burning jet fuel. The problem is that there's not enough lift capacity to be able to shield anything other than the crew compartment. So you're kinda screwed if you want to, you know, re arm the damn things without using an entirely robotic system.

Aren't there radiation-blocking plastics or composites that would be quite a bit lighter than what they had in the original set-up, though?

Ryan Thunder wrote:

Beowulf wrote:That's not the problem. They did figure out how to run a heat exchanger to the turbojets so that it runs off the heat from the reactor, instead of heat from burning jet fuel. The problem is that there's not enough lift capacity to be able to shield anything other than the crew compartment. So you're kinda screwed if you want to, you know, re arm the damn things without using an entirely robotic system.

Aren't there radiation-blocking plastics or composites that would be quite a bit lighter than what they had in the original set-up, though?

I doubt it. Blocking radiation is not so much lightness, but the density of atoms that can scatter the alpha, beta and gamma rays sufficiently such that the emission approaches zero in the shortest possible distance. That is the reason why lead is so useful as a radiation shield: the damn thing is very dense. A normal brick is lighter than a lead brick.

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:

Ryan Thunder wrote:

Beowulf wrote:That's not the problem. They did figure out how to run a heat exchanger to the turbojets so that it runs off the heat from the reactor, instead of heat from burning jet fuel. The problem is that there's not enough lift capacity to be able to shield anything other than the crew compartment. So you're kinda screwed if you want to, you know, re arm the damn things without using an entirely robotic system.

Aren't there radiation-blocking plastics or composites that would be quite a bit lighter than what they had in the original set-up, though?

I doubt it. Blocking radiation is not so much lightness, but the density of atoms that can scatter the alpha, beta and gamma rays sufficiently such that the emission approaches zero in the shortest possible distance. That is the reason why lead is so useful as a radiation shield: the damn thing is very dense. A normal brick is lighter than a lead brick.

Assuming they're the same size, of course, yeah.

Guh... well... 12 tonnes is massive. I think I'll stick with the conventional solution and just use non-afterburning J-58 equivalents.

Oh, so that's 8 engines, radar stealth, and some kind of AESA radar equivalent.

It'd carry some 72 AAM-2 missiles, which could be launched from perhaps four internally-loaded rotary launchers (6 missiles per launcher.) Alternatively, eight internally-reloaded missile pylons, or perhaps the missiles could be kept on a belt which would be deployed down underneath the plane...

Wouldn't carrying 72 missiles underneath the plane kinda screw with it's radar signature? This is supposed to be stealth-ish, right?

It's a wing with a huge internal bay.

Well, if Ryan wants to build 6-8 billion dollar planes.... by all means....

He'll have a single one most likely. The flyaway costs will be enormous, but the R&D? Damn...

Stas Bush wrote:He'll have a single one most likely. The flyaway costs will be enormous, but the R&D? Damn...

Let's place bets the R&D costs are likely to top off 80-100 billion, With that money, he could

1. Build a nice fleet of Nimitz carriers, and escorts, and submarines
2. Buy a nice IADS to cover the country several times over.
3. Buy a nice army.