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Posted: 2004-01-13 08:09pm
by Thirdfain
-sigh- The one major thing I intend to follow with my nation is the complete avoidance of BDZing except in direct retaliation. There is no way the warrior caste- uh, I mean, the Navy would be willing to do something like that.

Besides, ground combat is lots more fun to write.

Posted: 2004-01-13 08:12pm
by Dahak
Thirdfain wrote:-sigh- The one major thing I intend to follow with my nation is the complete avoidance of BDZing except in direct retaliation. There is no way the warrior caste- uh, I mean, the Navy would be willing to do something like that.

Besides, ground combat is lots more fun to write.
Nah. As there is basically no ground to combat on, that branch is not a huge topic with my military :)

Posted: 2004-01-13 08:13pm
by Thirdfain
Shit! never thought about that!

Better have marines get up to more training for door-to door combat :P

Posted: 2004-01-13 08:16pm
by Dahak
Thirdfain wrote:Shit! never thought about that!

Better have marines get up to more training for door-to door combat :P
He he he
Better do :)
Trust me, you'll have a hard time getting one marine's toe in my cities. And I'll be ready for you <g>

Posted: 2004-01-13 08:18pm
by Thirdfain
Trust ME, the Stuart Corporation and the tactics required to successfully invade it are the FARTHEST thing from the minds of my policy makers right now.

Shit, this STGOD is heating up for yours truly. I actually sometimes can't get to sleep, too busy thinking about how I'm gonna come out on top of it.

Posted: 2004-01-13 09:30pm
by Kyle
Thirdfain wrote:The Commonwealth has conquered fairly significant areas of the interveneing space (The current Shiva province, and now Brisbane) and hass extended the FSU out to the border we agreed upon back in the beginning of the STGOD. So expansion in that direction is done for, and the region out to the Perseus.Cygnus arm border is under either direct Commonwealth control or influence.

Kyle, I was wondering where you hosted your map?
I've got it on my old website from when I was a regular on ASVS and it's hosted on angelfire, Hasn't been updated in ages but I still use it to host random things.

I'll try and update the map, but it'll be pretty basic and I could use people posting all changes to there territor. to make it easier.

Posted: 2004-01-13 09:33pm
by Thirdfain
The TSC now touches the Fenari empire to the west and the Gorn Federation to the east (due to the annexation of Maharashtra and Brisbane.) From the northern border of the Commonwealth to the edge of the Cygnus arm is the Free States Union. The Comonwealth no longer holds territory in the Aquarian Union, and the Azegart Empire is no longer divided up (though it is currently disputed territory.)

Posted: 2004-01-13 09:36pm
by SirNitram
The Black Alliance no longer exists as the map goes(Though they're all hanging out in the Magellenic Clouds these days).

Posted: 2004-01-13 09:41pm
by Beowulf
As I recall, you were above the plane of the ecliptic... the Magellenic Clouds are below.

Posted: 2004-01-13 09:43pm
by phongn
The SKS is slowly trying to reunite the three different sectors.

Posted: 2004-01-13 09:54pm
by Pablo Sanchez
The Kzin have moved along the Norma Arm towards the East and North.

Posted: 2004-01-13 10:05pm
by SirNitram
Beowulf wrote:As I recall, you were above the plane of the ecliptic... the Magellenic Clouds are below.
First above the plane, then lurking in the Deep Core, then the Clouds. We'll be moving again soon.

Posted: 2004-01-13 10:14pm
by Beowulf
The PRC has slightly expanded in size. Roughly the width of the border line.

Not that it really matters...

Posted: 2004-01-13 11:12pm
by Stormbringer
SirNitram wrote:I feel I should note that the Azegardt are but newborns compared to quite a few of the powers in existance, and ships from before the War are still operating. Unless their ability to work metal is vastly inferior to alot of those in existance, simple old age isn't going to make the stolen frame that bad.
Not really, they're as old as many of the powers in existance now, though they never did achieve the same level of technological sophistication.

And it's not just simple age; it's repeated and heavy battle damage which has had a deterimental effect on the space frames. And of course engines that are simple, brute force affairs which exert alot of force on the hull of the ship.

Posted: 2004-01-13 11:13pm
by Stormbringer
And the Affront should be the purple power at the top of the map.

Posted: 2004-01-13 11:17pm
by Pablo Sanchez
Stormbringer wrote:Not really, they're as old as many of the powers in existance now, though they never did achieve the same level of technological sophistication.
Some of the hulls being used by the Kzin are more than 300 years old--"battleships" in the front lines. (actually, they were originally light cruisers, but standards change).

Posted: 2004-01-14 12:34am
by Stormbringer
Pablo Sanchez wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:Not really, they're as old as many of the powers in existance now, though they never did achieve the same level of technological sophistication.
Some of the hulls being used by the Kzin are more than 300 years old--"battleships" in the front lines. (actually, they were originally light cruisers, but standards change).
So? The Azegart aren't the Kzin. And they used their ships hard.

Posted: 2004-01-14 12:36am
by Stormbringer
Thirdfain, how the hell are you conquering this nations with out committing your forces? Because so far as I've seen you haven't committed forces to it as far as I can tell. And certainly not to policing them.

Posted: 2004-01-14 12:41am
by Thirdfain
BTW, Commonwealth forces in the Azegart Empire are at one of the three remaining Commonwealth/Empire jumpgates. Reinforcements from the Commonwealth (Assault Fleet, just in from the Grand Empire of Brisbane) just came through the 'gate. Over half the Commonwealth fleet is present.

The jumpgate is located at one of the Azegart Provisional naval bases, of which there are 3 significant ones and perhaps a couple of dozen of repair/resupply stations. It is guarded (as are the other 2 surviving jumpgates) by 6 gun platforms and planet-based fighters.

Posted: 2004-01-14 12:49am
by Thirdfain
Thirdfain, how the hell are you conquering this nations with out committing your forces? Because so far as I've seen you haven't committed forces to it as far as I can tell. And certainly not to policing them.
The Grand Empire? I commited Assault Fleet, over 300 warships, to the job, plus over a billion Commonwealth soldiers and dozens of vessels from the surrounding fiefdoms. It's all written down about 4 pages back.

Additionally, the Grand Empire's queen was a Commonwealth plant (note the assassinations and other tomfoolery way the hell back around the middle of page 24.), a fact which allowed the Commonwealth to attack at the right places and destroy or capture the whole Brisbanian fleet. You don't know this, of course.

As for the former Republic of Maharashtra, which is currently Shiva province in the Commonwealth, it has been under commonwealth control for well over a year (invaded and conquered back around page 3 or 4, now almost completely loyal, with many Maharashtrans earning citizenship, and most of the sector colonized by immigrants.), and iss mostly inhabited by loyal colonists anyway. Until only a few days ago, Asssault Fleet was over Maharshtra.

Maharashtra has no forces in it at this time besides antipirate patrols, but is part of the main Commonwealth jumpgate network. Brisbane was conquered only hours ago (page 38, 39), and is currently patrolled by Coalition forces while Assault Fleet is away.

Posted: 2004-01-14 12:57am
by Thirdfain
Beowulf! The Grand Empire was conquered literally YESTERDAY. It is STILL full of front-line Commonwealth troops. Their queen just publically requested that her citizens and soldiers cease and desist all resistance. The chance of open revolt at this point is almost nil.

Posted: 2004-01-14 12:59am
by Stormbringer
Thirdfain wrote:Beowulf! The Grand Empire was conquered literally YESTERDAY. It is STILL full of front-line Commonwealth troops. Their queen just publically requested that her citizens and soldiers cease and desist all resistance. The chance of open revolt at this point is almost nil.
Actually, it's the most likely point for it. The fact that you're getting to be pretty overextended is only going to make it more tempting.

Posted: 2004-01-14 01:00am
by Stormbringer
Thirdfain wrote:
Thirdfain, how the hell are you conquering this nations with out committing your forces? Because so far as I've seen you haven't committed forces to it as far as I can tell. And certainly not to policing them.
The Grand Empire? I commited Assault Fleet, over 300 warships, to the job, plus over a billion Commonwealth soldiers and dozens of vessels from the surrounding fiefdoms. It's all written down about 4 pages back.

Additionally, the Grand Empire's queen was a Commonwealth plant (note the assassinations and other tomfoolery way the hell back around the middle of page 24.), a fact which allowed the Commonwealth to attack at the right places and destroy or capture the whole Brisbanian fleet. You don't know this, of course.

As for the former Republic of Maharashtra, which is currently Shiva province in the Commonwealth, it has been under commonwealth control for well over a year (invaded and conquered back around page 3 or 4, now almost completely loyal, with many Maharashtrans earning citizenship, and most of the sector colonized by immigrants.), and iss mostly inhabited by loyal colonists anyway. Until only a few days ago, Asssault Fleet was over Maharshtra.

Maharashtra has no forces in it at this time besides antipirate patrols, but is part of the main Commonwealth jumpgate network. Brisbane was conquered only hours ago (page 38, 39), and is currently patrolled by Coalition forces while Assault Fleet is away.
Okay, part of the problem is half the time you just give the name and never tell what ships are actually attached. That and a few pages back turns pretty useless when you start shifting fleets like crazy.

Posted: 2004-01-14 01:01am
by Thirdfain
:roll:

They can enjoy themselves attacking the mobilized and prepared Commonwealth front-line soldiers with their hunting rifles and makeshift weapons. They have no access to advanced weapons, so any resistance will be unarmored men and women on the streets. Streets patrolled by armored vehicles, power armor cavalry, and some of the best heavy infantry in the region, with orbital fire support.

Posted: 2004-01-14 01:04am
by Thirdfain
Thirdfain wrote:Since it seems I am about to face a LOT of action, here's a comprehensive run-down of my forces in place as of right now:

Cygnus Fleet (Invading the Grand Empire of Brisbane via a 3 pronged attack.)

Assault Manipule Alpha (Attacking New Australia system)
CNV Artemis DN
CNV Hathor DN
6 Adrastea Armored Cruisers
10 Orphne CLs
30 Alcyone DDs
2 Chorea CEs
40 Erithea FS
35 Hesperia FE
-asssorted troop and supply transports, most already in obit disgorging landing craft.-

Assault Manipule Beta(Attacking Bahamut system)
CNV Cerridwen (Fleet Carrier)
10 Adrastea Armored Cruisers
10 Orphne CLs
30 Alcyone DDs
40 Hesperia FEs
40 Erithea FSs
-asssorted troop and supply transports, most already in obit disgorging landing craft.-

Assault Manipule Gamma(Attacking Mohaim system)
CNV Uller
CNV Skadi
6 Adrastea Armored Cruisers
10 Orphne CLs
30 Alcyone DDs
50 Hesperia FEs
50 Erithea FSs
-asssorted troop and supply transports, most already in obit disgorging landing craft.-

Heavy Response Manipule Theta(4th part of Cygnus Fleet, in reserve stealthed in Hyperspace. Not mentioned in battle plans given to the Republic.)
CNV Freya(fleet carrier)
5 Adrastea Armored Cruisers
2 Chorea CEs
5 Orphne CLs
20 Alcyone DDs
30 Hesperia FEs
30 Erithea FSs

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