Re: 2008 NFL Season Thread- The Road to Super Bowl XLIII
Posted: 2009-02-28 04:33pm
Kansas City traded their 2nd Round pick (#34 overall) for Matt Cassel and Mike Vrabel.
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Not a bad package that. I'd have certainly jumped on an offer like it.Falkenhayn wrote:Kansas City traded their 2nd Round pick (#34 overall) for Matt Cassel and Mike Vrabel.
Two things:Trade talk rattles Cutler
By Mike Klis
The Denver Post
Posted: 02/28/2009 06:21:05 PM MST
Updated: 02/28/2009 06:21:05 PM MST
Even without serious competition from a backup, the Broncos had themselves a quarterback controversy Friday.
Jay Cutler, the Broncos' starting quarterback, the franchise, the one player who carried all hope for a greater future, believes his days with the team are numbered — even after a proposed deal that would have sent him to Tampa Bay and Matt Cassel to Denver never materialized.
"My understanding at this point is they're trying to trade me," Cutler said this afternoon. "We'll see where I end up at. I liked it here, I liked playing with these guys but obviously they're not going to let me have that opportunity."
The deal had Tampa Bay trying to acquire Cutler in exchange for a first-round draft pick. In turn, the Broncos would have traded the first-round draft pick to New England in exchange for quarterback Matt Cassel.
McDaniels was the Patriots' offensive coordinator last season when he helped guide Cassel, a career-long backup, to an 11-5 record and 89.4 passer rating that ranked 10th in the league.
It may be important to note, Tampa Bay initiated the deal. And they weren't the only team that inquired about acquiring Cutler.
"He's not the only person in the last few days we've received calls on," McDaniels said. "We've received trade calls on a number of players, which is not uncommon this time of the year. I also think the sensitivity of the other trade that was occurring, with my relationship with New England and the whole Cassel thing, I think that stirred the pot even more."
And then McDaniels made a point of emphasis: "We don't want to trade Jay. We never did. He's our quarterback. We're excited about this season. And excited about what we're doing here in free agency to improve our team."
Cassel was instead traded Saturday to the Kansas City Chiefs in exchange for the No. 34 overall pick in the upcoming draft.
Nevertheless, Cutler was shaken his team entertained moving him, and doesn't believe such a possibility is dead.
"I'm upset. I mean I'm really shocked at this point," he said. "I could see why they want Cassel. I don't know if they think I can't run the system or I don't have the skills for it. I just don't get it. Or if they don't think they can sign me with my next contract. I just don't know what it is. I've heard I'm still on the trading block."
Cutler has three years left on the six-year contract he signed prior to his rookie season. He said Broncos officials denied they were trying to him in a conversation with his agent Bus Cook. Cutler added that after the proposed deal spread through the Internet, the team cut off communication with Cook.
Had the proposed trade gone through, it would have come as a surprise to most followers of the team. Cutler is a first-round talent. He was picked No. 11 overall in the 2006 draft and undoubtedly would have gone higher if the league re-did that draft today. Cassel, meanwhile, did not start one game at quarterback at USC and never started in the NFL until this, his fourth season.
Granted, he played behind Carson Palmer and Matt Leinart at USC and Tom Brady at New England. But Cassel doesn't have the arm strength or big-play capability of Cutler, whose 4,526 yards ranked behind only Drew Brees and Kurt Warner among NFL quarterbacks last season.
If Cutler is not traded, and he stays with the Broncos, can his situation be mended? Cutler took a long pause before answering.
"Anything can be mended," he said. "I'll always play with the guys we've got. I love playing for those guys. Obviously, Josh and I's relationship has taken a few steps backward. I don't play for the coaches anyway, I play for teammates. As long as we keep the guys we've got I'll go out there and play. I love those guys."
Cutler said he had spoken with teammates Brandon Marshall, Brandon Stokley, Tony Scheffler and Casey Wiegmann, among others, about his trade.
"I know they love playing for me and I love playing for them," Cutler said. "There's going to be a lot of problems if they try to trade me. Well, they've already tried to trade me, but if they trade me for sure."
Ravens might have a bunch of salary cap room now that we've lost a few guys on D. And another offensive weapon might be a good purchase.The Spartan wrote:I'm surprised that no one has brought this up yet, but Owens has been cut by Dallas.
It'll be interesting to see where he lands. I'm sure somewhere will take him... I just can't think of who.
One team needs to hop on the retirement home bandwagon and sign Owens, Harrison and Galloway. They all have about 2-4 years left in them and could bring up any young receivers already on the team or that get drafted. I think the Chiefs should give Cassel some weapons and old timer speed.The Spartan wrote:I'm surprised that no one has brought this up yet, but Owens has been cut by Dallas.
It'll be interesting to see where he lands. I'm sure somewhere will take him... I just can't think of who.
Not a chance. Harbaugh was with the Eagles when TOJ was there. Same goes for Childress in Minnesota. I'm thinking either the Raitards or Bengals. Maybe the Browns.weemadando wrote:Ravens might have a bunch of salary cap room now that we've lost a few guys on D. And another offensive weapon might be a good purchase.The Spartan wrote:I'm surprised that no one has brought this up yet, but Owens has been cut by Dallas.
It'll be interesting to see where he lands. I'm sure somewhere will take him... I just can't think of who.
The Spartan wrote:The Bengals did just lose Houshmanzadeh. So I can see them trying to pick up a marquee wide out to replace him. It's not like he's any worse than some of the other idiots they've had around. He, at least, doesn't have a rap sheet to my knowledge. He's just a selfish asshole.
Considering the radio DJ I listen to in the morning is from Buffalo and insisted on Friday that this would never, ever, ever happen, I find this to be delicious.Havok wrote:One year. 6.5 million. Buffalo.
Didn't see that one coming.
They ended up getting Laveranues Coles out of free agency.The Spartan wrote:The Bengals did just lose Houshmanzadeh. So I can see them trying to pick up a marquee wide out to replace him. It's not like he's any worse than some of the other idiots they've had around. He, at least, doesn't have a rap sheet to my knowledge. He's just a selfish asshole.
Rashad Baker's a warm body. I don't know if his stint with the Raiders did anything for him, but he was mediocre when he played for us.Qwerty 42 wrote:The Eagles picked up two safeties recently: former Brown Sean Jones and former Raider Rashad Baker, who punched the Eagles' playoff ticket in December by picking off Jeff Garcia. Rumors have them targeting fullback Leonard Weaver.
It's funny you should say this. I'm watching the 98 NFC Divisional playoff game between SF and GB. Owens was dropping easy passes all day, but on the final drive, when Rice absolutely fumbled, but the refs called him down, and Young threw an interception that his receiver saved him from, it was Owens that caught the winning touchdown pass with 8 seconds left to go over and between 5 Packer players. Two Hall of Fame players almost lost the game on the final drive and it was Owens that made the play.Dark Flame wrote:On the topic of bashing T.O., I've seen him drop several late-game, crunch-time catches. Maybe he didn't do that in SF and Philly either, but he sure as hell is not good in the clutch.
Did he even play last year? Shit man the Browns have ass luck with free agency. They should just stick to the draft.And I've officially lost all faith in the Browns now that they've released Joe Jurevicious.
No. However, when he was healthy he had great hands and excellent leadership. I know that the NFL's a business, but he's a quality guy that wants to play in Cleveland and I think he should have been allowed to stay. Overall, I'm not very enthused by Mangini's moves so far.Did he even play last year? Shit man the Browns have ass luck with free agency. They should just stick to the draft.
I hope not. That would take away two guaranteed wins for the Chargers.Havok wrote:So Cutler has asked for a trade.
Now the questions are, does Denver grant it?
Yes.
Thus the career of the serial coach-killer begins. Cutler is Jeff George, minus the character and maturity. Any team that would trade for such a pupster deserves its downward spiral.And who wants Cutler and who has the merchandise to trade for him?
SF, Detroit, TB, Minnesota, NYJ, and a few others have a need, but fuck if Detroit isn't loaded with draft picks this year, and I could see McDaniels and Bowlen wanting to have a complete fresh start with a new QB drafted in the 1st round, possibly even #1.
If I were the Pats, I'd try to trade for him but if the Panthers don't go for it, I'd pay the two #1 picks and grab him anyway. The Redskins did just that to snatch Wilbur Marshall from the Bears and he was more than worth it. The Patriots have 12 picks in 2009 alone and can spend their two highest while still being able to do what they want in the draft.Also Peppers looks like he is going to be traded to New England. Fuck.
If Brady is healthy, even by the 3-4th week of the season, NE has to be the favorite to win the SB this year. Although, we have seen what happens with the NY Yankees when you keep bringing in the big names... it is no guarantee of a championship.