The Official Episode III spoiler thread

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2005-02-17 05:59pm

Grievous' starfighter is pretty swank.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2005-02-17 06:37pm

I like the decription of the fighters: "Looks like an 'H' when seen from the front", and it´s called a V-Wing.

I believe Grievous´ starfighter can be seen on the concept-art that the Ep. III-videogame developers get to view on their doc in the OT-DVD. It looks like a weird bat-plane-like vehicle. This side-view makes it look "rotten" or put together like a grotesque Frankenstein´s monster. Pretty nifty.

The Original Nex · Post by **The Original Nex** » 2005-02-17 08:41pm

New BTH is up, Padme crying in the cockpit of her yacht.

The captioned reads:

"You'll always be that little boy on Tatooine," is a distant sentiment as Padmé (Natalie Portman) reflects on current events.

Looks like we may get to see Natalie's real acting capability in this one. . .

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2005-02-18 02:47am

I've got shots of the Palpatine/Sidious figure.

Palpy

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2005-02-18 03:05am

Yeah, he's kind of already been up as part of previous general image posts, but it's interesting to see the Emporer without his hood. I wonder if his baldness is just for the toy or whether he actually does have hair.

Because I've always prefered the thought that he does have hair...

EDIT: I find it rather funny that his Force lightning gimmick piece looks more like a Sailor Mercury water attack. It's a heart, for God's Sake!

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2005-02-18 06:17pm

The worlds of Ep. III (part 1)

Revenge of the Sith showcases more planets than any Star Wars film that has come previously, more planets than all the previous Star Wars films combined. The scale of the Star Wars finale is so enormous that it stretches from the heart of the Republic to the wispiest stretches of the Outer Rim. To better orient yourself in galaxy far, far away, here's a brief introduction to some of the planets to be found in Episode III.

Alderaan.

A center of art and beauty in the galaxy, Alderaan is an unspoiled world that exemplifies pacifist ideals. Representing Alderaan in the Senate is Bail Organa, played by Jimmy Smits, the eventual adoptive father to Princess Leia. Alderaan is seen briefly in the film, with stunning photography gathered in the Swiss Alps, augmented by a gleaming palace added digitally.

The Episode III Art Department developed the look of Alderaanian culture as extremely advanced and sleek, with tight jumpsuits and streamlined headsets being the norm aboard Alderaanian starships. Present in the film are several prominent natives of Alderaan, including Captain Antilles of the Tantive IV played by Rohan Nichol and Queen Breha Organa, played by Rebecca Jackson Mendoza.

Cato Neimoidia.

A key "purseworld" of the Trade Federation, Cato Neimoidia is home to many treasure troves belonging to the greedy Neimoidians. In the early development of Episode III, Cato Neimoidia was to be a gas giant ringed by a flat, disc-like space station - reminiscent of the donut-like shape of the Trade Federation battleships seen in Episode I. The opulent interiors of Cato Neimoidia were to be stocked with riches, gleaming precious metals, and other gaudy examples of excess.

In the finished film, Cato Neimoidia is marked with skyscraper-filled cities lining bowed bridges that span enormous gaps - its two-word definition during development was "bridge world." Episode III dialogue referring obliquely to a sticky situation involving Anakin Skywalker, Obi-Wan Kenobi, and Commander Cody on Cato Neimoidia was expanded to become the opening chapters of the novel Labyrinth of Evil by James Luceno.

Coruscant.

The capital of the Republic, and eventual birthplace of the Galactic Empire, the city planet of Coruscant figures prominently in Episode III as it has the entire prequel trilogy. Returning locales include Padmé's apartment, which has been expanded to include a spacious verandah; the Jedi Temple, which includes such new chambers as a high tech computer room, military briefing room, and gunship hangar; and the Senate building, which includes the Chancellor's holding office from which extends his commanding podium.

A prominent new location is the Galaxies Opera House, where Supreme Chancellor Palpatine maintains a private viewing box. In the film, he is witness to a zero-gravity Mon Calamari aquatic ballet.

Felucia.

A stronghold belonging to the Commerce Guild, Felucia is the site of a Republic mission led by the Twi'lek Jedi, Aayla Secura. Early in the development of Episode III, George Lucas planned on depicting the fall of the Separatist home-worlds in the Clone Wars, and each Separatist faction and species was given a distinct planet of their own. Felucia was to be home of Shu Mai and her Gossam people. The early artwork described it as a "kelp planet" and a "fungus planet."

For the film, the look of Felucia was locked through a detailed concept model built at Industrial Light & Magic. The planet is a dense mixture of yellow, blue and green hues, expressed through exotic vegetation and fungi, including enormous bottle-like pitcher plants that color the sunlight like a stained-glass window. Native creatures include large grub-like beetles used as mounts and translucent life forms, like gossamer-winged birds with flesh like gummy candy.

See Felucia in action in "Reversal of Fortune," a daily online webstrip by Paul Ens and Thomas Hodges, available only to members of Hyperspace: The Official Star Wars Fan Club.

Mange · Post by **Mange** » 2005-02-19 09:12am

Yes, that is from the Homing Beacon, isn't it?

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2005-02-19 10:06am

Yep.

Moving on, here´s a better look at Juggernauts, three-legged walkers and the wookies who love them:

I like the big cannon and small, top-side cannon on those walkers, reminds me of different WWII tank-designs.

It´s possible that this is the AT-TE version we will see in the film. I know it sounds strange, but it might simply be a new model. (With three legs and a second, large cannon.) Or is that too different from the original to be called a new model?

Post by **Vympel** » 2005-02-19 10:10am

That picture looks ... wierd. It's surely the real picture, but before they've done a lot of the "work" that needs to be done on it to make it look more authentic.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2005-02-19 10:14am

You have to consider the fact that the wookies in the foreground are moving, so they´re blurry no matter what. Looked fine in the trailer and on the improved shot in webdoc 13.

And, dammit, I think I see that AT-RT I thought was cut out after the animatics. It´s the silver object behind some clonetroopers to the left side of the shot.

Mange · Post by **Mange** » 2005-02-19 10:57am

The three-legged walker sure looks a bit strange. How does it move forward...? Hmm, a few ideas comes to mind, but I'll guess we'll have to wait for either May 19th or the ROTS:ICS to find out.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2005-02-19 12:23pm

I think the centre leg has several intricate joints, probably to help stabilize it.

Basically, they took an AT-TE, cut off the back, replaced the front-legs with a single one, and added a cannon sticking out the front. Probably has no troop-carrying capability, i.e a pure tank.

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2005-02-19 12:28pm

I think that they've gone a bit overboard with the walker theme for the Empire - err I mean the Republic. I mean we get it already, this will all eventually become the Empire's, but god damn it's almost become a festering brainbug.

*sniff*

At least we still have the Juggernaut.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2005-02-19 12:31pm

I like it, a more wide array of walkers than simply AT-AT, AT-ST.

Now we have AT-AT, AT-ST, AT-RT, AT-PT, AT-XT, AT-TE, AT-HE, AT-AA, AT-AR, MT-AT, MT-ST, AT-whateverthehellthisthingis and SPHA's.

EDIT: Dang, that sounded like a certain Monty Python-gag.

Hardy · Post by **Hardy** » 2005-02-19 02:44pm

Mange the Swede wrote:The three-legged walker sure looks a bit strange. How does it move forward...? Hmm, a few ideas comes to mind, but I'll guess we'll have to wait for either May 19th or the ROTS:ICS to find out.

Or you can watch the trailer when we see shots of Mustafar.

Without the trailer in front of me, I'm guessing that the vehicle pitches up, extends the foreward leg ahead, then comes down a distance ahead of where they initially were. The other two legs then follow bipedally and the process repeats.

Dartzap · Post by **Dartzap** » 2005-02-19 03:12pm

hmm, everythings looking reasanobly good so far, thankfully.

..wait, isnt that what we all said about TPM?

Mange · Post by **Mange** » 2005-02-19 04:37pm

Hardy wrote:
Mange the Swede wrote:The three-legged walker sure looks a bit strange. How does it move forward...? Hmm, a few ideas comes to mind, but I'll guess we'll have to wait for either May 19th or the ROTS:ICS to find out.
Or you can watch the trailer when we see shots of Mustafar.

Without the trailer in front of me, I'm guessing that the vehicle pitches up, extends the foreward leg ahead, then comes down a distance ahead of where they initially were. The other two legs then follow bipedally and the process repeats.

Yes, I was also thinking along those lines.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2005-02-19 04:38pm

Dartzap wrote:..wait, isnt that what we all said about TPM?

Ahhh, the good all "we´ve seen this before"-bullshit. No, not even the hype before TPM could come up with anything even reaching this kind of optimism.

Dartzap · Post by **Dartzap** » 2005-02-19 04:40pm

I know

i was merely being daft, i am looking forward to this film, but i shall reserve judgement until i have seen it, and i shall not be influenced by evil forces

Petrosjko · Post by **Petrosjko** » 2005-02-19 05:32pm

VT-16 wrote:
Dartzap wrote:..wait, isnt that what we all said about TPM?
Ahhh, the good all "we´ve seen this before"-bullshit. No, not even the hype before TPM could come up with anything even reaching this kind of optimism.

By and large, I like what I've seen so far. I didn't get any TPM spoilers and I didn't buy into any of the hype. I went in very much with an open mind, expecting it not to be on the caliber of Star Wars, and was horribly disappointed.

Bearing that in mind, and my disappointment with AotC, I'm holding at cautiously optimistic about this one. Because while the plot looks good enough, I'm waiting to see how it's carried off in execution.

Gustav32Vasa · Post by **Gustav32Vasa** » 2005-02-19 07:38pm

Petrosjko wrote:Bearing that in mind, and my disappointment with AotC, I'm holding at cautiously optimistic about this one. Because while the plot looks good enough, I'm waiting to see how it's carried off in execution.

What was wrong with AotC? IMO it was better then ep 4,5,6. If you ignore the romance.

Petrosjko · Post by **Petrosjko** » 2005-02-19 07:42pm

Gustav32Vasa wrote:
Petrosjko wrote:Bearing that in mind, and my disappointment with AotC, I'm holding at cautiously optimistic about this one. Because while the plot looks good enough, I'm waiting to see how it's carried off in execution.
What was wrong with AotC? IMO it was better then ep 4,5,6. If you ignore the romance.

My dislike of AotC could fill a whole 'nother thread, but long story short... I despised Hayden's Anakin, who I found to be not sympathetic at all, the lightsaber fights sucked hardcore and for my money were the worst in the whole series, and the protagonists were breathtakingly stupid.

'Duh, the archive says the planet's not there. But basic astrophysics says that it is. How can this be, Master Yoda?'

'Appallingly stupid, Obi Wan is. Needs small child to point out the obvious, he does. Small child?'

'Da pwanet's still dere, dumbass.'

'Oh. Duh.'

Gustav32Vasa · Post by **Gustav32Vasa** » 2005-02-19 07:46pm

Petrosjko wrote:
Gustav32Vasa wrote:
Petrosjko wrote:Bearing that in mind, and my disappointment with AotC, I'm holding at cautiously optimistic about this one. Because while the plot looks good enough, I'm waiting to see how it's carried off in execution.
What was wrong with AotC? IMO it was better then ep 4,5,6. If you ignore the romance.
My dislike of AotC could fill a whole 'nother thread, but long story short... I despised Hayden's Anakin, who I found to be not sympathetic at all, the lightsaber fights sucked hardcore and for my money were the worst in the whole series, and the protagonists were breathtakingly stupid.

'Duh, the archive says the planet's not there. But basic astrophysics says that it is. How can this be, Master Yoda?'

'Appallingly stupid, Obi Wan is. Needs small child to point out the obvious, he does. Small child?'

'Da pwanet's still dere, dumbass.'

'Oh. Duh.'

Agree with you on Obi-Wan I do. Disagree with you on lightsabre battle do I. Whiney the brat was.

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2005-02-19 08:53pm

Petrosjko wrote:
Gustav32Vasa wrote:
Petrosjko wrote:Bearing that in mind, and my disappointment with AotC, I'm holding at cautiously optimistic about this one. Because while the plot looks good enough, I'm waiting to see how it's carried off in execution.
What was wrong with AotC? IMO it was better then ep 4,5,6. If you ignore the romance.
My dislike of AotC could fill a whole 'nother thread, but long story short... I despised Hayden's Anakin, who I found to be not sympathetic at all, the lightsaber fights sucked hardcore and for my money were the worst in the whole series, and the protagonists were breathtakingly stupid.

'Duh, the archive says the planet's not there. But basic astrophysics says that it is. How can this be, Master Yoda?'

'Appallingly stupid, Obi Wan is. Needs small child to point out the obvious, he does. Small child?'

'Da pwanet's still dere, dumbass.'

'Oh. Duh.'

Its not his fault. He had a hangover.

IRG CommandoJoe · Post by **IRG CommandoJoe** » 2005-02-20 12:56am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Grievous' starfighter is pretty swank.

I don't know why, but it reminds me of a duck.