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PeZook's handful of cops are actually doing ten billion times more good in persuading change in Astarian society, compared to Stas and Shep's stupid submarine strikes.

But alliterations win over all!

You know, that's a point I'd like to make to King Paul. Well mostly that I don't think Stas' continued strikes are doing any real good. But I'm not sure if our visit is set before or after his followup submarines attacks or not.

Shroom Man 777 wrote:PeZook's handful of cops are actually doing ten billion times more good in persuading change in Astarian society, compared to Stas and Shep's stupid submarine strikes.

But alliterations win over all!

I think what they are trying to achieve really, is "regime change" and not "change".

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:

Shroom Man 777 wrote:PeZook's handful of cops are actually doing ten billion times more good in persuading change in Astarian society, compared to Stas and Shep's stupid submarine strikes.

But alliterations win over all!

I think what they are trying to achieve really, is "regime change" and not "change".

I think that what they are aiming at is to exterminate the Astarian people. That incidentally is the primary worry of the Astarian high command, as will be clear in post 3/3 and Pezooks last post. However untill then once more I thought we had a hiatus? Could Shep PLEASE stop making posts untill either my three little posts are out, or untill it's wednesday?

Norseman wrote:I think that what they are aiming at is to exterminate the Astarian people. That incidentally is the primary worry of the Astarian high command, as will be clear in post 3/3 and Pezooks last post. However untill then once more I thought we had a hiatus? Could Shep PLEASE stop making posts untill either my three little posts are out, or untill it's wednesday?

Given that Shep went as far as advocating the use of biologicals, yes.

Shroom Man 777 wrote:PeZook's handful of cops are actually doing ten billion times more good in persuading change in Astarian society, compared to Stas and Shep's stupid submarine strikes.

But alliterations win over all!

Ten billion times zero is still zero.

The PeZookians are certainly cultivating good will, but it won't amount to anything against an entrenched slavocratic interest that has already sacrificed prosperity and economic viability in the name of maintaining slavery. Veg's made it abundantly clear that the Astarian government and society is not prepared to even entertain abolition as a notion, regarding it as political suicide (for the government) and as an assault on property rights (for society).

That said, I was looking to destablize Astaria's already-unstable alliance among the shitholes of Southern Veleria, not exterminate Astaria from the face of the map. Just keep in mind that I don't think Shep intends to genocide you, the bioweapons are his deterrent and last-strike weapons to save himself from the MESS.

Steve wrote:That said, I was looking to destablize Astaria's already-unstable alliance among the shitholes of Southern Veleria, not exterminate Astaria from the face of the map. Just keep in mind that I don't think Shep intends to genocide you, the bioweapons are his deterrent and last-strike weapons to save himself from the MESS.

I won't put it past Shep to use those weapons for fun, really.

Gah my earlier post was eaten up by the internet being sucky!

Let me just say that I'm working frantically at my posts, but I have three posts left, and Pezook have two, before we can rejoin the present as it were. I'd post the first two posts right away, but I'm worried that it will trigger a flurry of responses before I'm ready with post three...

If I could be sure that's not the case I could post more stuff.

We can totally use the upcoming FUN Forum to discuss what actions the rest of the world can take in regards to Astaria, actions that don't involve killing people by the hundreds.

Shroom Man 777 wrote:We can totally use the upcoming FUN Forum to discuss what actions the rest of the world can take in regards to Astaria, actions that don't involve killing people by the hundreds.

With regards to the Sirnoth Shindig, can I come?

Everyone can!

Except those Goddamn Shepistanis! Unless they keep their goddamn knives and sharp sticks at home.

Shroom Man 777 wrote:Everyone can!

Except those Goddamn Shepistanis! Unless they keep their goddamn knives and sharp sticks at home.

Ugh.. given that i am so bloody close to you, I think it will be heck superfluous for me to send anyone.

Just send your PM to Constantinople and we can have a chit chat.

I really suggest your guys hold up for two days. Seriously, trust me.

PeZook wrote:I really suggest your guys hold up for two days. Seriously, trust me.

Yeah, give the poor guy a break. All this information is like choking up the pipe.

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:

Shroom Man 777 wrote:Everyone can!

Except those Goddamn Shepistanis! Unless they keep their goddamn knives and sharp sticks at home.

Ugh.. given that i am so bloody close to you, I think it will be heck superfluous for me to send anyone.

Just send your PM to Constantinople and we can have a chit chat.

Uh? My PM is at Sirnoth, we're preparing for the FUN Forum, something that's been years in the making. Besides, Sirnoth is near Shepistan/OD - so it would also be ideal for the rest of the non-MESS world to meet there to discuss issues relating to... say, the End of the World.

I figured it'd take a bit to set up Project Gold Mine anyway.

Though elastic time could be used.

Foreign Minister Zoran Stojkovic of the USSR will be present at this Sirnoth thing.

As will Cascadia's Ambassador to Sirnoth.

PeZookia's Foreign Minister whose name I have to find in an obscure post of mine shall attend the FUN Forum.

The Astarian representative will be Alexander de Montre-Narang, a slightly foppish young gentleman with a fondness for bowler hats and classical music. Like many Astarian men he uses subtle make-up to hide any blemishes in his complexion.

Against my better knowledge I'm posting posts 1/3 and 2/3, and please hold back on any horrid gang bangs untill I've gotten post 3/3 out, after that Pezook has one more post to make which is directly related but I dare say that it will be out an hour or so later. We've already worked out most of the kinks.

Trust me when I say you'll be wasting your time if you react prematurely, if you want to be outraged or do something wild then Pezook can confirm that it's best to spare your energies for Post 3.

Oh and the first of the two is Astarian propaganda, and then the Astarian government talking IC about said propaganda. So please nobody get too offended about that, or the Regent's speech in post 2.

Tired now so I ramble but trust me: Post 3 is where it's at.

The Karic story continues...

It know looks like I'll be unable to most much at all for the next 8-10 weeks or so, except on the weekends. I'm in training to be a 911 call taker and dispatcher, so that is now taking priority .

So basically Indhopal's new parliamentary elections have paralyzed the government, accounting for my lack of action on issues. Hopefully I will still be able to have some things happen in the CFR and so forth. I still have lots planned for the Sons of Sabika for instance.

Also, for the record Indhopal is not happy with how Astoria is being treated. Not because I like slavers mind you, but because apparently everyone is cool with some of the great powers kicking around whoever the feel like it with out an international consensus on the matter (It could happen to me ). If the slavers are really that irksome to everyone, why not just form a real coalition to deal with them?

Because a coalition going after Astaria overtly will have to fight Japanistan as well.

Steve wrote:Because a coalition going after Astaria will have to fight Japanistan as well.

And bombing Astaria and sinking all their ships wouldn't lead to a war with Astaria's allies? It would seem that a state of war already exists here.