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The M-3 Grizzly.

Formerly known as the MC-1 land cruiser.

Ryan Thunder wrote:The M-3 Grizzly.

Formerly known as the MC-1 land cruiser.

How does Miratia afford all your crazy schema?

Czechmate wrote:How does Miratia afford all your crazy schema?

Maybe it affords it because his army is ridiculously small?

Stas Bush wrote:

Czechmate wrote:How does Miratia afford all your crazy schema?

Maybe it affords it because his army is ridiculously small?

You have a point, I suppose.

Steve wrote:Our most likely foe ATM is Japanistan, with Tian Xia a very distant #2 (that would require Beowulf going mad), so that's going to determine what kind of tank we inevitably pick up. Which actually gives you a bit of an advantage given your likely foe and thus use of those tanks. Granted, one potential issue for the designs is that your tanks' primarily use, likely, is in maneuver in the deserts of Arabia and Egypt against Japanistan, while we'd have to either fend with them in the arid steppes or coastal jungles of Veleria or, again requiring a madness of Beo, holding the line in our northern river valleys against a horde of TX tanks backed by the TXAF.

The B-2 Black Panther is essentially the real world K-2 Black Panther at 55tonnes with very good cross country mobility because the tank was designed to operate on the hilly terrain in Korea. As such, it has powered suspension and other things to ensure a smoother ride. The difference is of course the gun. Electronics are also top notch. The current upgraded B-2A Black Panther also comes with an uprated 1800hp-2000ho turbine engine to power the point defence weapons such as the fast firing grenade launcher to defeat RPGs and anti-tank munitions that receives guidance from milliwave radar. Fire-control includes a milliwave radar and the usual lot. Latest armor is a combination of NERA and ERA and composites.

On the other hand, the B-3 Black Tiger is really a king sized behemoth of the same order as the Merkava IV thereabouts. There is a special model with 152/155mm "special" gun, but that, heheh, is for the "Special Weapons Battalions". Production of the B-3 Black Tiger is likely to only to be sufficient to replace the tank brigades in Legacy formations. The tank is bloody expensive.

The tank guns fire weapons similar to those in the US Army X-Rod/XM1007/MRM rocket propelled rounds.

Nolder, I'd be willing to continue those talks with you btw when you get the chance. They probably will be in unreal time (say before this whole incident occured) but I'd like to finish them.

Bluewolf wrote:Nolder, I'd be willing to continue those talks with you btw when you get the chance. They probably will be in unreal time (say before this whole incident occured) but I'd like to finish them.

Yeah, give me a while to write it up.

No problem

As is becoming standard practice, I'll be unavailable throughout the weekend due to RL concerns. Starting pretty much now, I'm afraid

PeZook wrote:As is becoming standard practice, I'll be unavailable throughout the weekend due to RL concerns. Starting pretty much now, I'm afraid

*MESS Begins OPERATION: COLD KILBASA*

You should also commence OPERATION: SPELL CHECKER while you're at it

PeZook wrote:You should also commence OPERATION: SPELL CHECKER while you're at it

KIELBASA is spelled KILBASA in Texas, son. At least, at the world Famous Czech Stop off of I-35 in between Waco and Fort Worth.

Lonestar wrote: KIELBASA is spelled KILBASA in Texas, son. At least, at the world Famous Czech Stop off of I-35 in between Waco and Fort Worth.

This is exactly why you should run SPELL CHECKER on the entire state of Texas.

Also, commencing OPERATION: LEARNING GEOGRAPHY is advised as well

PeZook wrote:
This is exactly why you should run SPELL CHECKER on the entire state of Texas.

Also, commencing OPERATION: LEARNING GEOGRAPHY is advised as well

All Eastern Europeans are exactly the same.

Lonestar wrote: All Eastern Europeans are exactly the same.

Apparently, they also eat the exact same things as Americans. The world famous Czech Stop doesn't offer a single Czech dish

PeZook wrote:
Apparently, they also eat the exact same things as Americans. The world famous Czech Stop doesn't offer a single Czech dish

Obviously, the Czechs in the Czech Republic are the ones who are getting it wrong.

Stas Bush wrote:Just what exactly is Beowulf doing in the CFR? He's "standing down" but still posing as the "official government which runs the place"? Meaning that the Indhopalis would have to operate under his authority and admit his territorial claims? I think he has to renounce these territorial claims before anyone would want to work with him (and possibly he did that, I just didn't see a proper IC post yet).

It's been worked out primarily through PM's. I had raised precisely the objection you've mentioned, and it looks like we are going to have a nice settlement of the issue with a multinational peacekeeping op leading to elections to decide the shape of the new government. Once the details are worked out I believe the idea was that there would be a conference in Miratia where everything would be done in character.

Edit: And as for as tanks go, I certainly don't need Japanistan's 100 ton beast. That thing is simply not suited to realistic needs at all. Thinking on the matter, I figure I can always just upgrade my tanks with a new gun and some form of anti missile system as a stopgap measure and call it a day.

I believe Skimmer designed the tank simply to scare the crap out of us, and not for actual combat deployment.

Stas Bush wrote:

Czechmate wrote:How does Miratia afford all your crazy schema?

Maybe it affords it because his army is ridiculously small?

Sure but it would mean that unit prices for any paticular scheme of his would be ridiculous because the vendor has no volume to work with.

The Huang Di wrote:"For better or for worse, we are now effectively the government of the Claim."

...

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Let's see what the locals have to say about that one, now.

CmdrWilkens wrote:

Stas Bush wrote:

Czechmate wrote:How does Miratia afford all your crazy schema?

Maybe it affords it because his army is ridiculously small?

Sure but it would mean that unit prices for any paticular scheme of his would be ridiculous because the vendor has no volume to work with.

I have six hundred M-3 Grizzlies in service. That's more than the UK has Challenger 2s, and those cost around $8 million apiece.

We will only provide some aid only if you are part of CATO again in some way, and also if you are willing to abide by some agreements. All of which confidential."

So I don't make a mistake, confidential as in via PM or just IC confidential? Also, thank you for replying so fast.

Bluewolf wrote:

We will only provide some aid only if you are part of CATO again in some way, and also if you are willing to abide by some agreements. All of which confidential."

So I don't make a mistake, confidential as in via PM or just IC confidential? Also, thank you for replying so fast.

Well...... I guess it could be IC or PM or through other means. But I think the rest would say aye, all in due course, eventually, after we make a show of it.

Personally its up to you really. I don't object to either way. We should be able to get started once this is done.

Bluewolf wrote:Personally its up to you really. I don't object to either way. We should be able to get started once this is done.

A meeting in the UCSR will be appropriate I would expect.

How fitting, I was planning to go to there after I went to Shoomania.