Trollish Trekkies

[Ender]

Torpedo spheres are optimized for knocking out shields in a localized manner. For some reason or another they're less effective at capital-scale engagements.

Probably too damn big, and can be shot down, avoided, or will take out your fleet with it.

No, I mean damage wise

no clue then.

[Connor MacLeod]

Now Darkstar, like some demented Pied Piper, has led, by example, these idiotic Trektards out of the basements and into the light. People now see that yes, these chuckleheads really DO exist.

Interesting analogy.. didnt the rats the Pied Piper led go off a cliff or into a river or something?

Now we just push the Pied Piper in with them....

[Connor MacLeod]

I remember someone once mentioning that life exists on this planet up to one mile below the surface.1) is this BS
2) How much energy to melt to that depth, since part of the BDS is extinguish "all life"

1.) No idea, hafta ask someone else.

2. No idea. But if you want ot melt to a depth of 20 meters to maybe 100 meters, I think you'd be looking at an order of magnitude or two increase in firepower estimates (to give you an idea...

[Connor MacLeod]

I remember someone once mentioning that life exists on this planet up to one mile below the surface.1) is this BS
2) How much energy to melt to that depth, since part of the BDS is extinguish "all life"

1.) No idea, hafta ask someone else.

2. No idea. But if you want ot melt to a depth of 20 meters to maybe 100 meters, I think you'd be looking at an order of magnitude or two increase in firepower estimates (to give you an idea...)

IIRC its 2e24J for a 1meter depth.. IIRC a 20 meter depth should be something like 4e25, and a 100 meter depth would be 2e26...

[Ender]

Now Darkstar, like some demented Pied Piper, has led, by example, these idiotic Trektards out of the basements and into the light. People now see that yes, these chuckleheads really DO exist.

Interesting analogy.. didnt the rats the Pied Piper led go off a cliff or into a river or something?

Now we just push the Pied Piper in with them....

As I recall, he siced them back on the village and took the children away with him after the village refused to pay.

[Connor MacLeod]

Thank yu for the answers. Would ion cannons be used as they could destroy the remaining power gid of the planet? Also, would the Empire erve use antimatter if they could get their hand on it? You could just pour it into the planet's atmosphere and when it came into contact whit the correct element, the devastation would be enormous.

Ion cannons are a stream of relatavistically moving charged particles. Ask yourself "would a particle beam do damage if it hit?"

The obvious answer is "yes, it would." But not as much as TL cannons can do.

[2000AD]

Ion cannons are a stream of relatavistically moving charged particles. Ask yourself "would a particle beam do damage if it hit?"

The obvious answer is "yes, it would." But not as much as TL cannons can do.

There is the part in X-Wing: Rogue Squadron where a planet based ion cannon strikes an x-wing leaving almost nothing behind. If i can find the book i can get the exact quote.

[Master of Ossus]

Ok.. in the EGW&T there is a weapon (that big repulsor driven tL the NR uses.. I forget what it scalled) has a weapon that is equal in power to one of the 60 MTLS an ISD-1 carries. Such a weapon is said to be able to put a 20 meter hole in DURASTEEL. Melting rock or the crust to that depth should be simple.

Consider the volumes of nickel-iron rock a single ISD TL on lower power settings can vaporize (tens of meters, uip to 100 meter rocks as BY estimated) - that again proves that a single TL should melt the earth to a tremendous depth.

Starfighters of Adumar pages 99-102 - discussion of a munitions manufacturing plant buried "hundreds of feet" below the Cartann city and that the Adumari had bombs (fighter grade?) that could penetrate nearly that deep (they were only stopped by the fact that living quarters were housed above the actual plants.) And reputedly, there were many such manfuacturing facilities located belowground.

Obviously, other higher-tech worlds should be at least capable of simialr, if not greater, keeping in mind that the Adumari were NOT on par with the Empire and such

I remember someone once mentioning that life exists on this planet up to one mile below the surface. 1) is this BS
2) How much energy to melt to that depth, since part of the BDS is extinguish "all life"

Okay, the weapon that Mr. MacLeod briefly mentioned is an artillery piece.

In regards to Ender's questions:
1. No. Life exists down to that depth, although it is merely bacterial and sometimes even more primitive life.
2. A hell of a lot more than what we've been citing for a BDZ. In fact, it's almost a hundred thousand times greater than the firepower estimates. I tend to think that this is far to high, because bacteria at such depths has no effect on anything and would therefore not be usable as a resource, but also because killing that bacteria would not require melting down to a depth of one mile. In fact, it would require significantly less. Thermal transfer would kill the bacteria, eventually, if you just left the crust of the planet melted to "merely" a depth of a few hundred meters. Thus, even if we assume that a BDZ even exterminates the worthless bacteria existing at such depths, it would be unnecessary to melt one mile's worth of surface rock in order to exterminate it and completely sterilize the planet.

[Connor MacLeod]

Ion cannons are a stream of relatavistically moving charged particles. Ask yourself "would a particle beam do damage if it hit?"

The obvious answer is "yes, it would." But not as much as TL cannons can do.

There is the part in X-Wing: Rogue Squadron where a planet based ion cannon strikes an x-wing leaving almost nothing behind. If i can find the book i can get the exact quote.

Rogue 2's X-wing, Peshk. I'm aware of it.

More compelling is the following:

1.) the canon novelization indicates that ion cannon fire was clearly destructive (the one released from the KDY-150 at Hoth, at least). Leia also made it clear in the book that it was intended to damage/destroy the star destroyer.

2.) According to the EGW&T, a planetary turbolaser has 4x the output of a planetary ion cannon. VERY conservatively, this gives the ion cannon 50 GT if we assume its comparable to an Acclamator TL. Of course, its much bigger - we're easily talking teraton range (ten TT for the HTL turrets on the ISD-1 is my estimate, this wo uld give the ion cannon 2.5 TT per shot)

Do you think anyone is going to survive a charged particle/plasma weapon of many tens of gigatons to several teratons in yield?

There are official mentions of Imperial charged particle and particle beam weapons as well - I suspect this is what they are.