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Tribble wrote:I wasn't expecting Anakin to be perfect, I was expecting his fall to the Dark Side to be gradual. As in, slaughtering an entire village of people should have been one of the last things he did before becoming Vader, rather than in the middle of the second prequel. Really, if that one scene in AOTC had been removed or at least altered so that Anakin only killed those who were responsible rather than every single fucking person, I think his character would be a lot better for it.

Batman wrote:The Jedi doing beans about slavery in the Outer Rim means they didn't have jurisdiction there because of what again?

Batman wrote:And how, exactly, do you envision the Jedi actually doing something about the situation leading a)to a war between the Hutts and the OR and b) the Old Republic having a problem with that?

Batman wrote:The term 'non-sequitur' comes to mind.

Arawn Fenn wrote:

Batman wrote:The Jedi doing beans about slavery in the Outer Rim means they didn't have jurisdiction there because of what again?

The Jedi serve the Republic, just as described by Obi-Wan in 1977. Tatooine ( and Hutt Space in general ) is not part of the Republic. What about that is hard to understand?

Batman wrote:And how, exactly, do you envision the Jedi actually doing something about the situation leading a)to a war between the Hutts and the OR and b) the Old Republic having a problem with that?

You don't think the Hutts would have a problem with the Jedi freeing all their slaves?

Batman wrote:The term 'non-sequitur' comes to mind.

I do not think that word means what you think it means.

Batman wrote:

Batman wrote:And how, exactly, do you envision the Jedi actually doing something about the situation leading a)to a war between the Hutts and the OR and b) the Old Republic having a problem with that?

You don't think the Hutts would have a problem with the Jedi freeing all their slaves?

I think they'd be a lot less unhappy about that than they'd be about being at war with an opponent that out-everythings them roughly infinity to one, yes.

Irbis wrote:You mean, 10.000 Jedi >>> major galactic power? How?

Hutts actually were one of largest non-Republic entities in the Galaxy, and not only they had enough means to 'disappear' a few meddling Jedi, I can also easily see the Senate throwing a few scapegoat Jedi under the bus in the interest of peace. Even fucking Palpatine didn't mess with the Hutts, and you say crumbling, stagnating Jedi order and largely military-less Republic would do that? Why?

Purple wrote:I wonder how much of that is cannon now anyway. And how much of that we could know from watching the movies...

I certainly don't remember that map being shown.

A post on Starwars.com officially confirms what fans have been hearing for the past three months: the complex and detailed future history of the Star Wars universe that has been slowly accreting since the 1990s will be completely ignored by the new trilogy of films. Per the post, "Star Wars Episodes VII-IX will not tell the same story told in the post-Return of the Jedi Expanded Universe."

The confirmation is being met with a mixed reaction from fans over on Star Wars uber-site TheForce.net. "Thank you for wasting 20 years of my life," said one poster. "I honestly may be done with Star Wars at this point."

"The simple truth is that canon is whatever the license holder says it is. Fans need to wrap their heads around that," responded another.

According to the post, the reasons for the move have been previously mentioned: the Star Wars Expanded Universe is a vast, massively interconnected tapestry. The timeline that casual fans will want to hear the most about—and the timeline that Disney will be targeting with the new trilogy—occurs after Return of the Jedi and encompasses the continuing adventures of Luke, Han, and Leia. Few topics are as well-trodden in the EU as the Return of the Jedi aftermath—Han and Leia wed and have children, Luke meets former Imperial agent-turned-smuggler Mara Jade, and the New Republic is formed. The sheer bulk of storytelling that's been done about the post-RotJ time period would hopelessly tie the hands of any scriptwriter wanting to step in and show the events on film.

Expanded Universe diehards need not feel too bad, though, because the massive amount of EU material will all still be available for sale. Lucasfilm is creating a new "Star Wars Legends" banner under which the now non-canonical stories will be published (be they books, role-playing materials, games, or anything else).
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Op-ed: Disney takes a chainsaw to the Star Wars expanded universe

And good riddance, because almost all of it is crap.

The shift means huge swaths of dearly held story elements and characters that Star Wars EU fans have come to accept as canonical will be swept aside. Mara Jade is out, and fan favorite villain Grand Admiral Thrawn is most likely gone too. Also gone will be any mention of Han and Leia's EU Jedi children, Jaina and Jacen, along with the Jedi academy and all its associated bits. There will be no Yuuzhan Vong, and no associated death of Chewbacca.

"We have an unprecedented slate of new Star Wars entertainment on the horizon," said Lucasfilm President Kathleen Kennedy. "We're set to bring Star Wars back to the big screen and continue the adventure through games, books, comics, and new formats that are just emerging. This future of interconnected storytelling will allow fans to explore this galaxy in deeper ways than ever before."

The first movie in the trilogy, an as-yet unnamed Episode VII, premieres on December 18, 2015.

Irbis wrote:Well, we know Jabba, a single hutt, was de facto ruler of Tatooine

IIRC Hutts are also very important in SW CGI animated series, to the point highest leaders of both Republic and Separatists take time to negotiate with them.

*shrug* We know from the mouth of Qui Gon himself that Trade Federation has no influence on Tatooine because Hutts are too strong. By canon, they are able to resist galaxy-spanning power.

More, they are apparently strong enough to make Republic credits non accepted currency on their worlds except on their terms.

They are also strong enough Han Solo doesn't consider being major rebellion officer to be sufficient protection from a single Hutt.

Mange wrote:Lucasfilm has just announced the cast on the official LFL Facebook-page. Besides Ford, Fisher, Hamill and Mayhew, Adam Driver, Andy Serkis and Max von Sydow are in.

ETA: Star Wars.com: Episode VII Cast Announced (I couldn't get in though).

he Star Wars team is thrilled to announce the cast of Star Wars: Episode VII.

Actors John Boyega, Daisy Ridley, Adam Driver, Oscar Isaac, Andy Serkis, Domhnall Gleeson, and Max von Sydow will join the original stars of the saga, Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher, Mark Hamill, Anthony Daniels, Peter Mayhew, and Kenny Baker in the new film.

Director J.J. Abrams says, "We are so excited to finally share the cast of Star Wars: Episode VII. It is both thrilling and surreal to watch the beloved original cast and these brilliant new performers come together to bring this world to life, once again. We start shooting in a couple of weeks, and everyone is doing their best to make the fans proud."

Star Wars: Episode VII is being directed by J.J. Abrams from a screenplay by Lawrence Kasdan and Abrams. Kathleen Kennedy, J.J. Abrams, and Bryan Burk are producing, and John Williams returns as the composer. The movie opens worldwide on December 18, 2015.

JME2 wrote:Curious who van Sydow is going to play.

JME2 wrote:Curious who van Sydow is going to play.

Anthony Daniels

malguslover wrote:I wonder if this is something star wars related where he didn't play C-3p0

Irbis wrote:

malguslover wrote:I wonder if this is something star wars related where he didn't play C-3p0

He already did, this guy, in a few scenes:

JME2 wrote:Portman had The Professional at least, I believe.

Eternal_Freedom wrote:

JME2 wrote:Portman had The Professional at least, I believe.

Was that the Luc Besson film where she's a teenager trained to be a sniper? With Gary Oldman as the police officer/bad guy?

Gandalf wrote:

Eternal_Freedom wrote:

JME2 wrote:Portman had The Professional at least, I believe.

Was that the Luc Besson film where she's a teenager trained to be a sniper? With Gary Oldman as the police officer/bad guy?

Yeah. It's called Leon in some places.