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You're right. For some reason I thought there was an inherent Coordination bonus. I changed it so it makes it clear that it's both eyes. I'm not too keen on the visor or goggles idea, though. I mean, there's nothing cybernetic about that. Why bother with a visor or goggles you can never take off instead of just buying a visor or normal set of goggles that does the same thing?

Style, for one. Plus, with a visor setup, you could actually get a wider range of vision depending on how far back it wraps around your head.

If someone wanted a visor or goggles instead of normal looking eyes, that would be fine.

Right. I mean, the whole idea of cybernetics is that you look normal. You can get a set of goggles with the same IR, X-ray and other stuff as SS eyes for a lot less, but everyone will be able to see that you're wearing expensive goggles.

How expensive would these sorts of goggle be, exactly? Also, how about custom "shades" that have 1-2 options? You know. For style.

Probably not too expensive for some nice military surplus goggles, like a hundred bucks or so. James Bond style shades though, would probably be more like $500 or $1000.

Updated both the CP rules and template. Fleshed out the Telepathy system more (a couple more powers and it should be done), changes to the Skill system, and added a new Weakness.

With the template, changed the way the Skills are laid out (now according to what Stat they correspond to), and added a new Stat, Aptitude. Aptitude is for knowledge based skills like Law or Medicine. I'll put it in the CP rules when I get the chance. Rather than fool around with bonus points, just think of it that you have a 6 in every Stat (except Psi of course) and go from there. I don't know why that simpler explanation didn't occur to me earlier.

I would assume then, that I will be needing to revamp my happy skills then....

Hotfoot was nice enough to make an Excel spreadsheet that calculates XP cost for the skills you want easily. Just enter the number of Skills you have at each level and it will spit out the total cost.

XP Calculator

Alyrium Denryle wrote:I would assume then, that I will be needing to revamp my happy skills then....

Well yeah.

YOu guys can edit the character sheets cant you?

Um, it is isnt to much trouble, can you switch the 5 in Aptitude for my 7 in awareness.. then use the extra point gleened from the new stat, and put it in aptitude to make it an 8?

Otherwise, I can do that with my own records wthout a problem... then just resend...

Alyrium Denryle wrote:YOu guys can edit the character sheets cant you?

Um, it is isnt to much trouble, can you switch the 5 in Aptitude for my 7 in awareness.. then use the extra point gleened from the new stat, and put it in aptitude to make it an 8?

Otherwise, I can do that with my own records wthout a problem... then just resend...

You're going to have to re-send anyway because of the new skill system (everyone gets 150 XP, btw), we'll just see those changes when you do.

P.S. Edited my previous post, as the Spreadsheet XP calculator now handles Tier 1 and Tier 3 as well.

Hotfoot pointed out the folly of making the bases 6 instead of having 1 bonus point for each stat. Bonus points can be put anywhere, while Stat exchanges can only be made between Combat and Combat, Non-combat and Non-combat. So forget that base of 6 stuff. The bases are 5, and there's 1 bonus point for each stat (except Psi of course, so that makes 7 bonus points total now).

I figured as much, and did the math accordingly....

And that is a VERY sexy telepathy system

Alyrium Denryle wrote:I figured as much, and did the math accordingly....

And that is a VERY sexy telepathy system

Thanks. I still have to add a power you're just gonna love. Other than that, it's pretty complete for now I think.

Arthur_Tuxedo wrote:

Alyrium Denryle wrote:I figured as much, and did the math accordingly....

And that is a VERY sexy telepathy system

Thanks. I still have to add a power you're just gonna love. Other than that, it's pretty complete for now I think.

It wouldnt be mind-raping would it? By that name

Alyrium Denryle wrote:It wouldnt be mind-raping would it? By that name

That's...terrible. But funny.

Heya, this is the character I am preparing to play.

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Name: Ernesto Vega
Player: Alan Vicioso
Height: 6’1”
Weight: 225
Age: 31
Features: goatee, shades
Clothing: dark
Concept: Hispanic Merc
Conformity: -5
Morality: -10

Combat
Body: 5 (9)
Coordination: 10 (12)
Willpower: 5

Non-Combat
Awareness: 8
Charisma: 3
Talent: 7
Aptitude: 4

Psi (only if Trait taken):

Languages: Spanish (fluent), English (fluent, accent)

Profession: Threat Removal Agent

Tier 1 Skills: (2 * n XP per point)
Psi (only if Trait taken):
Telepathy -

No relevant Stat:
Ranged – 5
Education - 2

Tier 2 Skills: (n XP per point)
Coordination:
Handgun – 2
Rifle – 5
Heavy – 3
Long range – 5
Hand to hand – 3
Throwing – 4
Pilot (automobile) – 2
Pilot (specificy) –

Charisma:
Leadership – 0
Persuasion – 2
Empathy – 2

Awareness:
Alertness – 5
Spot – 4

Talent
Security – 4
Stealth – 5
Sleight of hand – 0

Aptitude:
Hacking –
Medic –
Engineering –
Law –

Tier 3 Skills: (1/2 * n XP per point)
Talent:
Mechanic (specify) –

Aptitude:
Music –
Field of study (specify) –

HP(Multiplier x Body): 18
FP(Multiplier x Body): 36
AP: 1
Impact Resistance(1 x Body + Armor): 14
Lethal Resistance(Armor): 5
Special Resistances:
Damage: 5
MV: 2

Available XP: 0
Earned XP: 0
Starting XP: 150

Money: $90
Inventory:


Weapon ----- Dam ---- Rng ------ ROF-------Recoil------- AT
MP7---------- 1d8 ----- 10 ------- 15 -------- 1(2)--------- AP
Grenade ---- 6d6 ----- 10 ------ X -------- w --------
RB .454 ----- 4d6 ----- 30 ------ 2 -------- 5 ---------
M82A1 ------ 8d6 ----- 70 ------ 2 -------- 4 --------- Heavy
WP Grenade- 12d6 ----- 10 ------ X -------- w ---------
Notes:


Armor Res Stealth MV AT Alertness
X-Light 5 -2
Notes:


Traits Magnitude Effect
Cyborg 3 $150,000 for cybernetics


Weaknesses Magnitude Effect
Favor 1 Owe a big favor
Enemy 1 Character has enemy that wishes to cause harm
Fumbling 1 -2 to persuasion, empathy, leadership when dealing with women.

Cybernetic upgrades:

Pain Filters ($2000) [+2 to willpower/combat only restricted]
Audio Processor mk2 ($2000) [+8 to alertness]
Super Solider Processor mk1 ($10,000) [+2 to coordination]
Smartgun Processor ($10,000) [eliminates aiming penalty for snapshots]
Psychic Inhibitor mk1 ($2000) [willpower +2 for resisting telepathy]
Circulatory Regulator ($1000)
Cybermuscles mk2 $($50,000) [+4 to for strength purposes]
Internal Armor mk2 ($50,000) [+4 for body]
Super Soldier Eyes ($10,000)
-Night Vision
-Dimmer
-Zoom
Super Soldier Ears ($5,000) [+8 to alertness, 200 feet hearing range, sub-sonic and super sonic hearing range]
Replacement Heart ($500)
Replacement Lungs ($500) [hold your breath for 30 mins]
Nasal Filter ($500) [immunity to airbourne bacteria and germs]
Replacment Immune System ($500) [immune to all natural sickness]
Lie Detector ($2,000) [+8 to empathy against lie attempts]
Metal Ribcage ($2,000)
Advanced Voice Box ($2,000) [+1 persuasion]

Gerard_Paloma wrote:

Alyrium Denryle wrote:It wouldnt be mind-raping would it? By that name

That's...terrible. But funny.

Well if you have ever seen Scanners... Mind raping would be a telepathc attack so horrible you leave them in a near-veggie state quivering on the floor... Kind of... twitching.. like a rat that has been bitten by a rattlesnake and is being digested from the inside out...

Marcao wrote:Heya, this is the character I am preparing to play.

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Name: Ernesto Vega
Player: Alan Vicioso
Height: 6’1”
Weight: 225
Age: 31
Features: goatee, shades
Clothing: dark
Concept: Hispanic Merc
Conformity: -5
Morality: -10

Combat
Body: 5 (9)
Coordination: 10 (12)
Willpower: 5

Non-Combat
Awareness: 8
Charisma: 3
Talent: 7
Aptitude: 4

Psi (only if Trait taken):

Languages: Spanish (fluent), English (fluent, accent)

Profession: Threat Removal Agent

Tier 1 Skills: (2 * n XP per point)
Psi (only if Trait taken):
Telepathy -

No relevant Stat:
Ranged – 5
Education - 2

Tier 2 Skills: (n XP per point)
Coordination:
Handgun – 2
Rifle – 5
Heavy – 3
Long range – 5
Hand to hand – 3
Throwing – 4
Pilot (automobile) – 2
Pilot (specificy) –

Charisma:
Leadership – 0
Persuasion – 2
Empathy – 2

Awareness:
Alertness – 5
Spot – 4

Talent
Security – 4
Stealth – 5
Sleight of hand – 0

Aptitude:
Hacking –
Medic –
Engineering –
Law –

Tier 3 Skills: (1/2 * n XP per point)
Talent:
Mechanic (specify) –

Aptitude:
Music –
Field of study (specify) –

HP(Multiplier x Body): 18
FP(Multiplier x Body): 36
AP: 1
Impact Resistance(1 x Body + Armor): 14
Lethal Resistance(Armor): 5
Special Resistances:
Damage: 5
MV: 2

Available XP: 0
Earned XP: 0
Starting XP: 150

Money: $90
Inventory:


Weapon ----- Dam ---- Rng ------ ROF-------Recoil------- AT
MP7---------- 1d8 ----- 10 ------- 15 -------- 1(2)--------- AP
Grenade ---- 6d6 ----- 10 ------ X -------- w --------
RB .454 ----- 4d6 ----- 30 ------ 2 -------- 5 ---------
M82A1 ------ 8d6 ----- 70 ------ 2 -------- 4 --------- Heavy
WP Grenade- 12d6 ----- 10 ------ X -------- w ---------
Notes:


Armor Res Stealth MV AT Alertness
X-Light 5 -2
Notes:


Traits Magnitude Effect
Cyborg 3 $150,000 for cybernetics


Weaknesses Magnitude Effect
Favor 1 Owe a big favor
Enemy 1 Character has enemy that wishes to cause harm
Fumbling 1 -2 to persuasion, empathy, leadership when dealing with women.

Cybernetic upgrades:

Pain Filters ($2000) [+2 to willpower/combat only restricted]
Audio Processor mk2 ($2000) [+8 to alertness]
Super Solider Processor mk1 ($10,000) [+2 to coordination]
Smartgun Processor ($10,000) [eliminates aiming penalty for snapshots]
Psychic Inhibitor mk1 ($2000) [willpower +2 for resisting telepathy]
Circulatory Regulator ($1000)
Cybermuscles mk2 $($50,000) [+4 to for strength purposes]
Internal Armor mk2 ($50,000) [+4 for body]
Super Soldier Eyes ($10,000)
-Night Vision
-Dimmer
-Zoom
Super Soldier Ears ($5,000) [+8 to alertness, 200 feet hearing range, sub-sonic and super sonic hearing range]
Replacement Heart ($500)
Replacement Lungs ($500) [hold your breath for 30 mins]
Nasal Filter ($500) [immunity to airbourne bacteria and germs]
Replacment Immune System ($500) [immune to all natural sickness]
Lie Detector ($2,000) [+8 to empathy against lie attempts]
Metal Ribcage ($2,000)
Advanced Voice Box ($2,000) [+1 persuasion]

I don't see any mistakes. You did a good job. I only have two questions and one remark:
1. What's an RB .454?
2. Why did you take a Smartgun processor and then not pick a Smartgun equipped weapon?
3. I hope you're not planning on being able to carry around all that weaponry. A person as strong as this guy could manage the weight, but finding space for an MP7, .454 Win revolver (I'm guessing that's at least a 6" barrel), and two different types of grenades on one's person is already a stretch, when you add a .50 AMR rifle to the mix it becomes almost comical to imagine.

Anyway, you can send the sheet as is to Gerard_Paloma as far as I'm concerned for putting up on the site, or change stuff first. Your call. Thanks for taking interest

Hi Arhtur,

I was helped out a great deal by Hotfoot so I can't take credit for the lack of mistakes. I will answer your questions in order.

1. RB .454 is shorthand for a Raging Bull .454 Casull revolver. They are manufactured by Taurus Arms.

http://www.taurususa.com/products/produ ... y=Revolver

2. This is a preliminary version of the stats. I have not taken the time to finalize all the weapon designs yet. I will do so now.

3. I am not planning on playing the quake marine. I do want to have a weapon for "every" occasion. It is a pet peeve of mine when I make combat characters. I plan on carrying one or two weapons at most so don't worry too much. ^_^

thanks for taking the time of going over the character.

Alan

Arthur_Tuxedo wrote:I don't see any mistakes. You did a good job. I only have two questions and one remark:
1. What's an RB .454?

Raging Bull .454 Revolver. Huge freaking pistol.

2. Why did you take a Smartgun processor and then not pick a Smartgun equipped weapon?

Come to think of it, I don't see any rules for smartguns, options or pre-existing. Just the processor.

3. I hope you're not planning on being able to carry around all that weaponry. A person as strong as this guy could manage the weight, but finding space for an MP7, .454 Win revolver (I'm guessing that's at least a 6" barrel), and two different types of grenades on one's person is already a stretch, when you add a .50 AMR rifle to the mix it becomes almost comical to imagine.

An MP7 is not very big, actually, it's almost a pistol. They have holsters for it. As it is, I know for a fact he's not planning on carrying all of this on his back (well, at least not unless there's some serious killing that needs doing).

Anyway, you can send the sheet as is to Gerard_Paloma as far as I'm concerned for putting up on the site, or change stuff first. Your call. Thanks for taking interest

One question I would like to raise, now that I think about it. Is it intentional that the Audio Processor bonus and the Supersoldier ear bonuses stack? Can the same thing be done with visual processors and supersoldier eyes?

Also, I'm going to have to mention the inherant flaw in the Lie Detector package. It costs $7,000 to get it (SS Ears + Lie Detector) but is then useless against anyone with a simple $1,000 Circulatory Regulator. You need at least the Tier 2 trait to get a package which is easily defeated by someone with the Tier 1 trait.

Just some notes I made from when I was helping him make his character.

Also, you will now see why I consider Mikal somewhat higher than a -10 when you see what Ernesto is like.

Marcao wrote:Hi Arhtur,

I was helped out a great deal by Hotfoot so I can't take credit for the lack of mistakes. I will answer your questions in order.

Ah ok, that makes sense.

1. RB .454 is shorthand for a Raging Bull .454 Casull revolver. They are manufactured by Taurus Arms.

http://www.taurususa.com/products/produ ... y=Revolver

I should have known that RB would mean Raging Bull. For some reason my mind just blanked.

2. This is a preliminary version of the stats. I have not taken the time to finalize all the weapon designs yet. I will do so now.

3. I am not planning on playing the quake marine. I do want to have a weapon for "every" occasion. It is a pet peeve of mine when I make combat characters. I plan on carrying one or two weapons at most so don't worry too much. ^_^

K, just checking.

Hotfoot wrote:

2. Why did you take a Smartgun processor and then not pick a Smartgun equipped weapon?

Come to think of it, I don't see any rules for smartguns, options or pre-existing. Just the processor.

Well maybe you're just not looking hard enough! Seriously though, that's one of the next things I'll get to.

Anyway, you can send the sheet as is to Gerard_Paloma as far as I'm concerned for putting up on the site, or change stuff first. Your call. Thanks for taking interest

One question I would like to raise, now that I think about it. Is it intentional that the Audio Processor bonus and the Supersoldier ear bonuses stack? Can the same thing be done with visual processors and supersoldier eyes?

Yes, they stack. One enhances the actual quality of the sound/vision, while the other analyzes for anomalies.

Also, I'm going to have to mention the inherant flaw in the Lie Detector package. It costs $7,000 to get it (SS Ears + Lie Detector) but is then useless against anyone with a simple $1,000 Circulatory Regulator. You need at least the Tier 2 trait to get a package which is easily defeated by someone with the Tier 1 trait.

But the lie detector itself only costs $2,000. 5 grand goes for the ears that have their own benefits. So it's 2 grand for a lie detector that works on anyone that hasn't been upgraded. I'd say that's fair.[/quote]

Just some notes I made from when I was helping him make his character.

Also, you will now see why I consider Mikal somewhat higher than a -10 when you see what Ernesto is like.

I can't wait

Oh, also could we get a revised headcount? I know Alyrium, Hotfoot, Gerard, and Marcao are still interested, but others haven't said anything in a while or submitted up to date character sheets. Just kind of raise your hand if you still want in.

Luckily, I didn't have to change much. I'll be submitting my revised character sheet soon.

Arthur_Tuxedo wrote:Well maybe you're just not looking hard enough! Seriously though, that's one of the next things I'll get to.

Fair enough.

Yes, they stack. One enhances the actual quality of the sound/vision, while the other analyzes for anomalies.

Okay, just making sure. By the way, what's the total limit on the SS Eyes as far as options go? Right now it seems like it's unlimited, so long as you keep paying $1,000 past the first three. Is that the case?

But the lie detector itself only costs $2,000. 5 grand goes for the ears that have their own benefits. So it's 2 grand for a lie detector that works on anyone that hasn't been upgraded. I'd say that's fair.

Fair enough.

Alyrium Denryle wrote:

Gerard_Paloma wrote:

Alyrium Denryle wrote:It wouldnt be mind-raping would it? By that name

That's...terrible. But funny.

Well if you have ever seen Scanners... Mind raping would be a telepathc attack so horrible you leave them in a near-veggie state quivering on the floor... Kind of... twitching.. like a rat that has been bitten by a rattlesnake and is being digested from the inside out...

Haven't seen it, but I'll take your word for it. Still terrible, though.

Gerard_Paloma wrote:

Alyrium Denryle wrote:

Gerard_Paloma wrote: That's...terrible. But funny.

Well if you have ever seen Scanners... Mind raping would be a telepathc attack so horrible you leave them in a near-veggie state quivering on the floor... Kind of... twitching.. like a rat that has been bitten by a rattlesnake and is being digested from the inside out...

Haven't seen it, but I'll take your word for it. Still terrible, though.

THose movies come highly recomended b me... Scanners, Scanners 2, and IIRC Scanner Cop

I have not seen these films since I was 12... I want to find them I havent seen them for 5 years

CorSec, Alyrium, thanks for the updates. I finally got around to uploading them to the website. So from now on (unless the template goes through a major change), if you need to make any updates to your sheets, be sure to grab the newest version from the site (to minimize any errors made, I go through them before I upload, and fix minor bits).

You other guys still in, or not? Haven't gotten anything from you, so...what's up?