Rebellion in Paradise.

Edward Yee · Post by **Edward Yee** » 2006-03-30 02:20am

*WHISTLE*

So the Trimunitive, instead of going with the flow, will actually try to directly intervene to save itself from having to reevaluate, by taking a side itself...

Zed Snardbody · Post by **Zed Snardbody** » 2006-03-30 02:22am

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Yea!

WOO HOOO!

....::cough::......

Very nice chapter. Thank you

darthdavid · Post by **darthdavid** » 2006-03-30 02:22am

YAY!!! *CLAPS*

A-Wing_Slash · Post by **A-Wing_Slash** » 2006-03-30 07:20pm

Glad to see this fic isn't dead.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2006-03-31 12:31am

Edward Yee wrote:*WHISTLE*

So the Trimunitive, instead of going with the flow, will actually try to directly intervene to save itself from having to reevaluate, by taking a side itself...

That's pretty much my intent; if you follow. Section is the preverbial 'conspiracy' imho. So I intend to treat them as such. BTW; what do you think of the 'Trimunitive' , as a concept?

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2006-03-31 12:32am

A-Wing_Slash wrote:Glad to see this fic isn't dead.

Never!

Though, as I'm sure I've noted before. I write in bursts, and I have what? Three projects going right now? Ok, I have more than that, but I only post.....two.

General Brock · Post by **General Brock** » 2006-04-04 08:39pm

Yesss! Another update! Thanks.

Should be interesting to see who the civillian backers of the rebellion are. Hard to believe a handful of admirals would expect to run their own Federation.

Zed Snardbody wrote:

I rather like the run down that she gives to Picard. It drew a nice line in the sand between her ideas and his. People like me, who have read the fic that Steve is writing I think have adopted his view of what life is like in the federation.

I think it would be better served by you when you flesh out your rebellion, to point to the sheltered lives of those on earth, versus those on the colonies and the things that those in starfleet have seen. The faluir's of the war, the separation of the haves and the have nots, and just a difference in the mind set of these different sets of people.

I thought Perim was being a little short-sighted, though understandably still grieving.

The Federation home front is perpetually warm; superbeings and unaligned powers, many still undiscovered, in addition to known threats and rivals playing 4X to the best of their ability. There was an episode of TNG, "The Survivors", where a superbeing called a Douwd eliminated a hostile civilization called the Husnock for killing his wife; not just the raider vessel but the entire species. Keeping the Enterprise, with a fixer crew skilled in exploration, diplomacy, and paramilitary operations where they were doing what they did best, seems like a smart move. The Dominion Wars was a meatgrinder best handled by better militarized vessels and crews. One more Sovereign wouldn't make or break the war, but could make a crucial difference elsewhere.

I know they were desperately short on ships for that war, but that would be in the context of having the capability to contain other Alpha quadrant problems.

Actually, its kind of surprising the Klingons, Romulans, or Ferengi haven't picked a fight they coudn't end; extraordinary contact only seems to happen to the Federation. Perhaps one reason for the nature of the Federation is that they fear a Harry Mud with attitude/ineptitude coming across sensitive alien tech, flubbing a first contact, or bringing home a superinvader. A lot of dead civilizations cluttered TOS, burned out on the endless frontier.

General Brock · Post by **General Brock** » 2006-04-04 08:44pm

darthdavid wrote:YAY!!! *CLAPS*

Yes, its great that Knife is hard at work at his FORGE.

Nudge. Bump. Hint-hint.

General Brock · Post by **General Brock** » 2006-04-19 03:08pm

Um, could a mod please remove my last post (and this one); I had no idea dd was in trouble till I checked out the Senate, and The Aliens wrote Valley forge. My screwup mars this thread, and I am really sorry about that.

Admiral Johnason · Post by **Admiral Johnason** » 2006-04-28 03:54pm

Can't wait for the big showdown.

Darth Fanboy · Post by **Darth Fanboy** » 2006-04-29 01:39pm

Admiral Johnason wrote:Can't wait for the big showdown.

*yawns*

Outrage....blah blah blah....Thought there was an update.....yeargh blah blah rage.....blah blah....what point was there for that.....generic mob incitement chant...

No rage, just echoing other threads, such as Starcrossed or Kuja's stuff.

Well while i'm posting might as well praise the author. It is developing rather nicely into a full blow conflic.t But I like how you have managed to keep the Rebellion more believable. Some authors would have had half the Federation turning tables, but you have a small fraction that is steadily growing into something larger. It doesn't seem like much maybe to some, but I like it. The Section 31 stuff is good and I trust you'll keep the wank out of it.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2006-04-29 01:55pm

Darth Fanboy wrote:
Well while i'm posting might as well praise the author. It is developing rather nicely into a full blow conflic.t But I like how you have managed to keep the Rebellion more believable. Some authors would have had half the Federation turning tables, but you have a small fraction that is steadily growing into something larger. It doesn't seem like much maybe to some, but I like it. The Section 31 stuff is good and I trust you'll keep the wank out of it.

I don't like wank, so I will give it a try.

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2006-04-29 02:33pm

Seems nicely done so far in terms of characters, although it really reads like one big indulgence in "rar i hate the federation so i am going to smash it". I hope the pro-status-quo Feds start to put up more of a challenge, because otherwise this is going to get silly after awhile.

I also strongly disapprove of what is effectively Bateson firing while cloaked (if the Feds never manage to even pick him up, he was effectively never uncloaked the whole time, and so he was effectively firing while cloaked), that seemed like such a cheap victory and it sets the rebellion up for near-invulnerability against anything less than a battle fleet with coordinated sensors or a starbase.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2006-04-29 06:09pm

Uraniun235 wrote:Seems nicely done so far in terms of characters, although it really reads like one big indulgence in "rar i hate the federation so i am going to smash it". I hope the pro-status-quo Feds start to put up more of a challenge, because otherwise this is going to get silly after awhile.

You caught me. I don't like the Feds.

I also strongly disapprove of what is effectively Bateson firing while cloaked (if the Feds never manage to even pick him up, he was effectively never uncloaked the whole time, and so he was effectively firing while cloaked), that seemed like such a cheap victory and it sets the rebellion up for near-invulnerability against anything less than a battle fleet with coordinated sensors or a starbase.

Bateson really only did what Klingon's have done for the last 100 years to the Feds, and 30 years on TV. Cloak to move to a better firing position, uncloak and fire, recloak and move.

Ship on ship, such tactics would work and indeed I would think that Bateson would know them well, since he's from Kirks time and would presumbably either have been in such situations or atleast been briefed on them. With multiple enemy ships, such tactics become null and void. Wtih multiple firing arcs, then can support each other better and bottle up the cloaked ship.