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OmegaGuy wrote:I see and raise you Yuki Nagato.
Yuki hasn't got the same sort of area of effect, though her effects are probably far more varied - given she was able to give a baseball bat a homing mode. However, the largest area we ever see her affecting reality is the size of a classroom. Yuki's boss could probably do it though.

Certainly, if you want cute girls of mass destruction from The Melancholy of Suzumiya Haruhi, then you can't go further than Haruhi herself. If she's not happy, the entire universe could just go away. To be replaced.
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I think I'd have to say the Galaxy Gun.

I mean, it's like the final word in artillery, so far as I'm aware. :D
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Somebody hasn't actually read the thread, then.:D
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Batman wrote:Somebody hasn't actually read the thread, then.:D
Guilty as charged, but good heavens, man, its seven pages long! :lol:
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And you think 7 pages is bad? Maybe this isn't the place for you. :)
'Next time I let Superman take charge, just hit me. Real hard.'
'You're a princess from a society of immortal warriors. I'm a rich kid with issues. Lots of issues.'
'No. No dating for the Batman. It might cut into your brooding time.'
'Tactically we have multiple objectives. So we need to split into teams.'-'Dibs on the Amazon!'
'Hey, we both have a Martian's phone number on our speed dial. I think I deserve the benefit of the doubt.'
'You know, for a guy with like 50 different kinds of vision, you sure are blind.'
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Note my use of the :lol: smily. :wink:

I've taken part in threads as long as 41 pages from conception to slow termination. Mind you, I started it, so I think that's easier...
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I stand corrected, then. :D
'Next time I let Superman take charge, just hit me. Real hard.'
'You're a princess from a society of immortal warriors. I'm a rich kid with issues. Lots of issues.'
'No. No dating for the Batman. It might cut into your brooding time.'
'Tactically we have multiple objectives. So we need to split into teams.'-'Dibs on the Amazon!'
'Hey, we both have a Martian's phone number on our speed dial. I think I deserve the benefit of the doubt.'
'You know, for a guy with like 50 different kinds of vision, you sure are blind.'
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Gustav32Vasa wrote:
Dahak wrote:
Gustav32Vasa wrote: spoilers for Void 1of3
In the book one guy use several of these when he is breaking into a memory vault.
He is not. He is using Nilling-sponges, using the same effect as Nilling d-sinks. It's no Hawking m-sink.
Are you sure? I though it was when ANA heard about the break in that got ANA worried that their blackhole tech had escaped from them.
They were worried when it was used to deal with Troblum's machine. In the vault, it were Nilling-sponges to suck up the energy of the weapons.
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Dahak wrote:
Gustav32Vasa wrote:
Dahak wrote: He is not. He is using Nilling-sponges, using the same effect as Nilling d-sinks. It's no Hawking m-sink.
Are you sure? I though it was when ANA heard about the break in that got ANA worried that their blackhole tech had escaped from them.
They were worried when it was used to deal with Troblum's machine. In the vault, it were Nilling-sponges to suck up the energy of the weapons.
I just got my copy of The Dreaming Void shipped in from Foreign Parts, so won't be reading any of this or joining in the discussion, even though I normally leap gleefully into black hole talk.

If the thread is still active in a few days though...
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question, what would happen to a culture vessel if it attempted to effectorize a ship with an improbability drive?
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Dahak wrote:
Gustav32Vasa wrote:
Dahak wrote: He is not. He is using Nilling-sponges, using the same effect as Nilling d-sinks. It's no Hawking m-sink.
Are you sure? I though it was when ANA heard about the break in that got ANA worried that their blackhole tech had escaped from them.
They were worried when it was used to deal with Troblum's machine. In the vault, it were Nilling-sponges to suck up the energy of the weapons.
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Ford Prefect wrote:
OmegaGuy wrote:I see and raise you Yuki Nagato.
Yuki hasn't got the same sort of area of effect, though her effects are probably far more varied - given she was able to give a baseball bat a homing mode. However, the largest area we ever see her affecting reality is the size of a classroom. Yuki's boss could probably do it though.

Certainly, if you want cute girls of mass destruction from The Melancholy of Suzumiya Haruhi, then you can't go further than Haruhi herself. If she's not happy, the entire universe could just go away. To be replaced.
In the fourth novel she rewrote the entire universe.
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Lord Relvenous wrote:You know i was gonna mention Cerebro. Definately a WMD, but you have to trick someone into using it wrong... so kinda unreliable.
Unless you have people trained to do it that don't give a shit.
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OmegaGuy wrote:In the fourth novel she rewrote the entire universe.
Do you mean Yuki? Because that's just silly. That was supposed to be the exclusive providence of God Herself, if she gets upset.
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Ford Prefect wrote:
OmegaGuy wrote:In the fourth novel she rewrote the entire universe.
Do you mean Yuki? Because that's just silly. That was supposed to be the exclusive providence of God Herself, if she gets upset.
Yes I do. I'd explain it but it would be a spoiler.
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Ford Prefect wrote:
OmegaGuy wrote:In the fourth novel she rewrote the entire universe.
Do you mean Yuki? Because that's just silly. That was supposed to be the exclusive providence of God Herself, if she gets upset.
Haruhi has the stated power of being able to destroy and recreate the universe. Yuki can merely re-write recent history.
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One that just occurred to me is the machine from the book Contact. Somebody pops up with the idea that this machine is intended to wipe out anybody advanced enough to, possibly, become a threat to the transmitting aliens. They send us the plans to a giant WMD, and we eagerly build the thing. It's like having somebody build their own gallows, thrust their neck through the noose, and pull the trapdoor. A nice, elegant method of wiping out a planet.
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An interesting theory, but not exactly a good idea in general. The problem is that in order to actually build the device, they need to already understand the basic principles. For example, suppose someone sends the plans for a nuke back to the 1850's. No way anyone can actually build it, not with the technology to enrich the uranium. You would have to give detailed instructions on how to2 build not just the weapon, but also the infrastructure to build the weapon. That runs the very real risk of the receivers figuring out exactly what the weapon does.

This, is, of course a major problem for your weapon. You now have a group that (1) knows you have genocidal objectives and (2) now has plans to a WMD, that they wouldn't otherwise have. Way to shoot yourself in the foot.

And this, of course, assumes the recipients have much lower technology level than you. If they don't then you're WMD is useless anyway.
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Why bother actively giving something out? You just leave interesting artefacts littered cross the galaxy that attract sentient space-faring species and alert you to a culling. You then don't intentionally help out a race become a threat to you, or have to go around scanning every possible system for life.
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