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Posted: 2008-06-13 05:15pm
by Thirdfain
It would be nice if people actually read my post. My bombardment was limited to the lightly populated southern continent, and hit only 15 citadels. Certainly, that's 15 cities with tens or hundreds of thousands dead apiece, but it's hardly a 100 million casualty figure (you'd have no way o knowing the deathtoll anyways with your communications trashed and your forces too busy staving off an assault to do a fricking bodycount.) Pay attention. If I'm going to utterly trash a planet's major cities, I will say as much.

Posted: 2008-06-13 05:33pm
by Darkevilme
Chamarans do tend to focus their cattle very densely and they do know how many are in each city roughly. This is not an accurate bodycount, this the estimate assuming that everyone in every city you've hit is dead Thirdfain.

I worked on each city being the population of london as this is the future and presumeably between developing fusion cannons and FTL someone developed better city planning which means minor cities with large populations.

Though thinking back harvesting would of cut back the numbers. still millions dead, tens of millions. and though the chamarans have understimated your resolve i cant help but think you're gonna need a PR campaign on this.

Posted: 2008-06-13 05:46pm
by Thirdfain
Hah! Just you wait. This is interstellar warfare, and a paltry thing like bombing 15 cities in a Terran Sphere with hundreds or even thousands of inhabited worlds will pretty much go un-noticed. Especially when using human shields like you have done goes against every rule of civilized warfare!

Posted: 2008-06-13 05:49pm
by Darkevilme
God damned barbarians at the gate and they complain about OUR warfare being uncivilized *mutter mutter*

Posted: 2008-06-13 05:50pm
by Ohma
Thirdfain wrote:Hah! Just you wait. This is interstellar warfare, and a paltry thing like bombing 15 cities in a Terran Sphere with hundreds or even thousands of inhabited worlds will pretty much go un-noticed. Especially when using human shields like you have done goes against every rule of civilized warfare!
Piffle, you men and your silly notions of 'civilized' warfare. It's exactly that attitude that the Dominatrixiat will be happy to do away with when we're through with you. :P

Posted: 2008-06-13 06:37pm
by Dark Hellion
100 million is nothing. I am expected 100 billion people to attend the various parties that coincide with the summit. Most important Imperial (note not territory) planets had to be pushing in the low trillions.

Posted: 2008-06-13 06:55pm
by Thirdfain
Darkevilme wrote:God damned barbarians at the gate and they complain about OUR warfare being uncivilized *mutter mutter*
In addition to nuking cities and gunning down millions in the hideous carousel of modern warfare, you also enslave and eat people. I'm not sure you have a mmoral leg to stand on :)

Posted: 2008-06-13 07:16pm
by Thirdfain
Princeton University's WordNet defines a "Cannibal" as:

noun
a person who eats human flesh

Personally, I would describe any sentient life-form as a person; ergo, a sentient Chamarran who eats a human is a Cannibal. Get used to it; I am going to do everything in my power to make it the moniker by which you are known in the Terran Sphere :)

Posted: 2008-06-13 07:21pm
by Darkevilme
I worked with the interpretation of eating your own species. the makayan dictionary disagrees with you when you liberate them you're welcome to make amendments.

Posted: 2008-06-13 07:45pm
by Tanasinn
Lancer, I'm waiting on any input out of your reps in the meeting. Once that's cleared up, I'll probably describe my ambush plan out in full, note the reactions of my higher-ups, and we can jump ahead to the arrival.

Posted: 2008-06-13 10:02pm
by Lancer
Ah, I've got representatives on the HNS Victor Aliyev? Is this concurrent with the Dom rebels, or a separate meeting?

Posted: 2008-06-13 10:21pm
by Ohma
Lancer wrote:Ah, I've got representatives on the HNS Victor Aliyev? Is this concurrent with the Dom rebels, or a separate meeting?
In the same room I believe. I think they've also been given a summary of what it known about the 'Trixiat as well.

Posted: 2008-06-13 11:25pm
by Thirdfain
Errr, though I can see why you would make the mistake, the Comrade-Admiral is a woman- and, in fact, the person in the picture is a woman as well. Sorry for the confusion :)

Posted: 2008-06-14 01:18am
by Tanasinn
I went ahead and assumed you'd put them on-board, Lancer, since both you and Omha seemed to want to skip the "hey guis wanna talk" posts.

Posted: 2008-06-14 05:18pm
by Ohma
Just for everyone's information I apparently wrote down the wrong values for my Expeditionary Forces in my OOB, it should've been 425 points each, but for some reason I wrote 400 points. I've corrected this, there is no change, my forces still add up to 2,000 points total, my fleets just have the correct value written by them now.

(very odd, I just did the math then copied the values from notepad into my oob when I first wrote it...I don't know how I managed to not realize that I had written 400 instead of 425, and still end up with the correct values for everything else.)

Posted: 2008-06-14 06:12pm
by Tanasinn
As an aside, I'm just waiting to make sure Lancer (or you, Ohma) don't have anything further to add before I look over to the Union's higher-ups and we make with the shooting.

Posted: 2008-06-14 07:27pm
by Thirdfain
I am enjoying this, Darkevilme. It's a very cool battle. You should know, however, that while the initial 3 waves hold significant numerical and firepower superiority in this area of the Southern Continent, they are nowhere near enough to take the entire planet- your total troop strength on-planet is far greater than the 450,000 I've landed so far.

Posted: 2008-06-14 08:17pm
by Darkevilme
True it's fun, City 31 has become a bastard battle full of mind control rays and your liberally fired nukes. And poor Sharue who can probably expect to be shot in the head at best.

As for the rest, well. Counterattacks are fun and you'd probably have been heavily outnumbered had you not blown up most of the citadels beforehand.

Posted: 2008-06-14 08:26pm
by Crossroads Inc.
Well you guys seem to be having fun. I would join but ground forces are the ONE thing I did not wish to commit to this.

As an aside, the current battle is awersome just in reading it, Im finding myself genuinblly curious whose going to die and whose going to live :D

Posted: 2008-06-14 08:48pm
by Thirdfain
Well, Crossroads, just finish your message to the Comrade-Admiral, and we can get to chit-chatting about all the interesting stuff :)


Darkevilme: I'd like to reach an agreement about the first day of fighting. I think it would be fair to have the day end with City 31 in Syndicalist hands, as well as 2 of the 4 cities in total on the North Coast. The 4th has a strong Syndicalist force in the suburbs and the defenders have retreated, but they still hold the Citadel and the inner city. Total Syndicalist action will have taken the Salient, an area half the size of Australia where the 14 major cities were nuked from orbit (the local villages and towns which don't have big fortified citadels have been taken by troop assaults,) as well as most of the North Coast- 3 cities taken more (or less) intact, and 1 still holding out- there are enough Syndicalist troops to finish off the 4th city in another day's fighting, but after that they will need to consolidate and unless further landings are enacted, it will be days until any more major offensives can be launched- especially towards the other, more densely populated half of the Southern Continent. Essentially, I will not nearly have time to conquer the planet before your forces arrive in space.

Would that be a fair outcome for you? Of course we must finish telling the tale of City 31

Posted: 2008-06-14 08:51pm
by Darkevilme
that sounds acceptable thirdfain.

Posted: 2008-06-14 09:27pm
by Thirdfain
Crossroads, I've added a response to your post- this would be a good time for you to voice whatever concerns you may have :)

Posted: 2008-06-14 10:02pm
by Crossroads Inc.
ook that works for me thus far, one thing I still need to know is how your ships are placed. Right now my main amarda are rather close in a centralize group. You carried out an orbital bombardment, so Im curious what ships are in ehat groups where... if you think this is sensitive stuff you can PM me.

Posted: 2008-06-14 10:09pm
by Thirdfain
It's neither sensitive nor anything but obvious; I'm sure that the planet is transmitting my fleet's precise location constantly.

The main battle fleet is not engaged in any silly splitting; this is a threatening area, and I've concentrated my offensive on a single part of the planet so I don't need to spread my squadrons out to cover the whole globe. The entire Syndicalist armada is in battle-formation over the South Pole of the planet; with the exception of the fleet scout units, which are spread out across the system in a picket to watch for incoming enemy warships. One such scout group is following your fleet.

Posted: 2008-06-14 10:58pm
by Thirdfain
Crossroads, I've sent you the battle-plans the Syndicalists had all lined up before you showed up; keep in mind that despite any conversations we've had, in game the Syndicalists have just met you and were planning on toppling the Chamarrans single-handedly.