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Where it is really obvious is in old hollywood movies. African queen comes in mind. Take Bogart - a most manly hero, with this lived off smuggler looks, beer belly, wirry hands and wrinkled skin, with a cigarette in the corner of the mouth.
There sure was not such a cult of body back then like today.

J.

Talking of body-builder type action heroes, just remember the bad guy in Broken Arrow, programming the bomb, and Terry thinking the tall thin guy with glasses is a 'computer nerd'.

He's a 'navy SEAL lady' just see what does with just his thumb.

Seriously annoying cliche: you can talk a computer into recognizing right-from-wrong, the value of human life, the need to transcend its own programming. Computers in the middle of counting down to the detonation of a doomsday device, seem especially vulnerable to this kind of persuasion.

Kanastrous wrote:Seriously annoying cliche: you can talk a computer into recognizing right-from-wrong, the value of human life, the need to transcend its own programming. Computers in the middle of counting down to the detonation of a doomsday device, seem especially vulnerable to this kind of persuasion.

Except of course for Bomb n. 20.

Countdown
Bomb Makes It's Decision

The villian trying to convince the hero that "we're not really that different after all. Join me!" Has that shtick ever worked?

Pulp Hero wrote:The villian trying to convince the hero that "we're not really that different after all. Join me!" Has that shtick ever worked?

How about when the hero makes it look like he's about to join him/her and then tricks him/her.

Pulp Hero wrote:The villian trying to convince the hero that "we're not really that different after all. Join me!" Has that shtick ever worked?

Yes, in Star War Episode 3 and almost in Episode 6. Then several times in the EU, I only know specifically of Dark Empire, but given the EU's incestuous nature, there's bound to be lots of examples.

Pulp Hero wrote:The villian trying to convince the hero that "we're not really that different after all. Join me!" Has that shtick ever worked?

Well, Star Wars, for one very good example


EDIT: DAMN you Laguna! And leaving the browser tab open before posting!
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Darth Wong wrote:In honour duels, it's a bit silly to question the tactical wisdom of taking off a helmet. The whole concept of an honour duel is tactically unwise anyway. If your prime concern is tactical effectiveness, you would never have an honour duel in the first place. He who had more allies would simply kill the other guy with strength of numbers. Honour duels are culturally motivated.

Yeah, it's not really very stupid to take off your helmet if you walk out from behind huge city walls to get killed in glorious single combat beforehand. It's like complaining that someone made a spelling error in an e-mail he sent to the FBI where he declares his intent to fuck little kids.

Really, it would've been awesome if Hector simply ordered the archers to shoot the annoying fuck

Seriously. They had the "high ground" with a fortress. If Achilles ended up getting riddled and dying like a pussy, those Myrmidonians could've screamed "heresy" "blasphemy" "madness" and "sparta" all they want and it wouldn't have changed a thing...

Well, maybe they would've still gone with that horse thing. Hector would've thought that bringing that hoss into the city would be a lousy idea, but the Trojans didn't really listen to him anyway...

Shroom Man 777 wrote:Seriously. They had the "high ground" with a fortress. If Achilles ended up getting riddled and dying like a pussy, those Myrmidonians could've screamed "heresy" "blasphemy" "madness" and "sparta" all they want and it wouldn't have changed a thing...

Well, maybe they would've still gone with that horse thing. Hector would've thought that bringing that hoss into the city would be a lousy idea, but the Trojans didn't really listen to him anyway...

Might also add that in the movie, any dumbass on a horse could have easily stumbled on the Greek fleet lying in wait and ruined everything. The only reason the Trojans didn't find the Greek army waiting to strike was because the scout was on his own - if they'd sent more than one scout on patrol, Achilles and Co. would have been boned.