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Yeah, I meant the Venator, not the Acclamator. Thanks for spotting that for me.Imperial Overlord wrote:Connor said:Minor nitpick: I think you mean Venator, not Acclamator.You'll also note the ICS entry does not even list the mass drivers at all. So the datafile listing is hardly all-inclusive. (Likewise for the Acclamator, its datafile does not include the SPHA-T beam cannons mounted ventrally on the ship.)
One of the clones looked like Bodie Taylor, the actor who played the younger version of Jango but otherwise I don't think there were any non Jango clones in that shot. Another possibility is that some of the clone faces were digital blendings of the faces of Morrison and Taylor, which ILM had said they were planning to include some of the shots. The clone on the far right of the group, in particular looked like a blended face to me.McC wrote:I move that it be re-added. I saw this clone as well. There's definitely someone standing there with yellow-painted armor that does not look like Jango.Grandmaster Jogurt wrote:I watched the movie again, and the "non-Jango clone" was shown right before Obi-Wan takes off for the Utapau system, not right before Order 66 as I had thought.
The clone appears to be blonde and has paler skin than Jango Fett, as well as different facial structure.
However, I'm rescinding this as a proposal for the revelations page, since it is disputed. Even after a second viewing I cannot be positive it was not a trick of the light, and lack of confirmation from others leads me to suspect I am seeing things.
That is cool and dandy had they not been clearly firing beam weapons...Illuminatus Primus wrote:It was the Invisible Hand. Those cannons are identified as proton torpedo tubes on the ROTS ICS; those ejected shells must be the "firing cylinders" for the torpedo identified in the SW ICS in reference to the X-Wing's torpedoes.Durandal wrote:Did anyone else happen to see the cannons on the Venator Star Destroyer ejecting shell after firing a round, or was that just me?
They weren't beam weapons.ali-sama wrote:That is cool and dandy had they not been clearly firing beam weapons...Illuminatus Primus wrote:It was the Invisible Hand. Those cannons are identified as proton torpedo tubes on the ROTS ICS; those ejected shells must be the "firing cylinders" for the torpedo identified in the SW ICS in reference to the X-Wing's torpedoes.Durandal wrote:Did anyone else happen to see the cannons on the Venator Star Destroyer ejecting shell after firing a round, or was that just me?
they fired beams... watch movie..The Original Nex wrote:They weren't beam weapons.ali-sama wrote:That is cool and dandy had they not been clearly firing beam weapons...Illuminatus Primus wrote: It was the Invisible Hand. Those cannons are identified as proton torpedo tubes on the ROTS ICS; those ejected shells must be the "firing cylinders" for the torpedo identified in the SW ICS in reference to the X-Wing's torpedoes.
I just rewatched the video game footage showing those weapons. They fire red bolts.ali-sama wrote:they fired beams... watch movie..
they are manned guns not tubes..
i'll look for screencaps.
ali
Watch TPM, ANH and RotJ. Projectiles, be they torps/missiles or some otehr non-beam weapon, LOOK a hell of a lot like beam weapons when fired. The Mass Drivers seen on Invisible Hand launch some sort of projectile. Whether these are the Proton Torpedo Tubes or not is still in discussion, but they are not Turbolasers.ali-sama wrote: they fired beams... watch movie..
they are manned guns not tubes..
i'll look for screencaps.
ali
The Sith probably don't believe in anesthetics.My biggest question is why Anakin wasn't anesthesized during the operation? Was it necessary to keep him conscious? (and feel the pain?)
the internally-mounted Venator "laser" cannons also launch projectiles that look like "bolts", yet clearly arc in non-linear trajectories.The Original Nex wrote:Watch TPM, ANH and RotJ. Projectiles, be they torps/missiles or some otehr non-beam weapon, LOOK a hell of a lot like beam weapons when fired. The Mass Drivers seen on Invisible Hand launch some sort of projectile. Whether these are the Proton Torpedo Tubes or not is still in discussion, but they are not Turbolasers.ali-sama wrote: they fired beams... watch movie..
they are manned guns not tubes..
i'll look for screencaps.
ali
I was wondering if the "arc" would be the colored tracer being affected by gravity? We know that the tracers are succeptible to directional changes due to gravitic forces even though the actual destructive bolt is not. (This phenomena is also seemingly observed in RotJ where we see many "tracers" not line up with the destructive fireball)Connor MacLeod wrote:the internally-mounted Venator "laser" cannons also launch projectiles that look like "bolts", yet clearly arc in non-linear trajectories.The Original Nex wrote:Watch TPM, ANH and RotJ. Projectiles, be they torps/missiles or some otehr non-beam weapon, LOOK a hell of a lot like beam weapons when fired. The Mass Drivers seen on Invisible Hand launch some sort of projectile. Whether these are the Proton Torpedo Tubes or not is still in discussion, but they are not Turbolasers.ali-sama wrote: they fired beams... watch movie..
they are manned guns not tubes..
i'll look for screencaps.
ali
Maybe he just had local anaestheticsThe Original Nex wrote:The Sith probably don't believe in anesthetics.My biggest question is why Anakin wasn't anesthesized during the operation? Was it necessary to keep him conscious? (and feel the pain?)
when you're connecting artificial limbs and the like, you would need the patient to be conscious and have a proper sense of touch in order to make sure everything is hooked up right! of course, being a cruel bastard, Palpatine probably made sure this was the most painful version of this procedure possible.2000AD wrote:Maybe he just had local anaestheticsThe Original Nex wrote:The Sith probably don't believe in anesthetics.My biggest question is why Anakin wasn't anesthesized during the operation? Was it necessary to keep him conscious? (and feel the pain?)
But he was screaming in pain during a scene of the surgery (followed by the scene showing Amidala was screaming as well).2000AD wrote:Maybe he just had local anaesthetics
I see. So it was just his bad luck that he also happened to have burn wounds during the prothestic attachment?Darwin wrote:when you're connecting artificial limbs and the like, you would need the patient to be conscious and have a proper sense of touch in order to make sure everything is hooked up right!
mass drivers? what mass drivers?The Original Nex wrote:Watch TPM, ANH and RotJ. Projectiles, be they torps/missiles or some otehr non-beam weapon, LOOK a hell of a lot like beam weapons when fired. The Mass Drivers seen on Invisible Hand launch some sort of projectile. Whether these are the Proton Torpedo Tubes or not is still in discussion, but they are not Turbolasers.ali-sama wrote: they fired beams... watch movie..
they are manned guns not tubes..
i'll look for screencaps.
ali
look up.The Original Nex wrote:That blue bolt is a TURBOLASER from a Venator, NOT from the Invisible Hand
Where did I say it was a proton torp? Show me. I simply said it is NOT a turbolaser.
portable/ disposable mini chambers.The Original Nex wrote:Which proves what exactly?
Care to explain the large ammunition belts stringing out from each of those guns? As well as the expelled "shell casings" after each shot is fired?
He has lungs, when Obi-Wan opens the frontal chestplates in Utapau, we can see his lungs shriveled behind the heart.The Silence and I wrote: General Grevious's cough--he can survive vacuum without difficulty, has no apparent lungs I saw inside his chest cavity and does not appear to expell air while speaking; why does he cough?
