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Remember that in a campaign you don't need to buy an admiral, you start with a green one and he gets experience.

Thirdfain wrote:Nope, apparantly, it's not too much to just put out there. Thanks for the heads up about the Admiral, though...

You're welcome. I guess I have a healthy case of paranoia.

What about Chaos Lords and Marks of Chaos? Do I need to gain those with experience as well? Or can I start with?

I'm not familiar with Campaign rules.

A quick question on re-rolls. Do we start with any, and can they be used for anything, or just special action rolls?

I would really enjoy playing some BFG. It's been many months since alien and heretic fleets felt my Imperial broadsides! But seeing as how the campaign's been pretty well set up, I'll just watch, and root for the forces of (debatable) good!

Ok, I won't be paranoid. Behold, my fleet.

Admiral Thesaurian commanding. Incidentally, he provided a useful ship-naming book.

Battleships

Titanic
1x Emperor-class battleship with Shark boat upgrade 350 pts.

Grand Cruisers

Reliable
Reputable
2x Governor-class grand cruisers 2x250 = 500 pts.

Cruisers

Stalwart
Staunch
2x Dominator-class cruisers 2x190 = 380 pts.

Potent
Powerful
2x Tyrant-class cruisers with range upgrade 2x195 = 390 pts.

Escorts

Squadron Sword-A
-3 frigates
Squadron Sword-B
-3 frigates

6x Sword-class frigates 6x35 = 210 pts.

Squadron Firestorm-A
-2 frigates
Squadron Firestorm-B
-2 frigates

4x Firestorm-class frigates 4x40 = 160 pts.

Transports

Our six free transports.

350 + 500 + 380 + 390 + 210 + 160 = 1990 pts.

NOTICE: I added the +5 Shark upgrade to my Emperor-class, changed my battlecruisers to Governor grand cruisers, my Gothics to Tyrants with the +10 range upgrade, and removed my armed freighters.

Arujei wrote:I would really enjoy playing some BFG. It's been many months since alien and heretic fleets felt my Imperial broadsides! But seeing as how the campaign's been pretty well set up, I'll just watch, and root for the forces of (debatable) good!

So throw your lot in. Half of us don't even have fleets set up yet, and I'm sure the addition of an experienced player couldn't hurt.

EDIT:
StarshipTitanic, you should add squadrons of Shark Assault Boats to your Emperor-class for an extra 5 points, seeing as you have 15 points free. I'm sure a bit of versitality couldn't hurt...

Alright, I'll try and come up with a fleet list tonight. See how many torpedoes I can unleash in a turn...

Do we have an Ork player yet?

LP

I wonder do we have a "Grand Fleet of the Space Commies" yet?

Feil wrote:
EDIT:
StarshipTitanic, you should add squadrons of Shark Assault Boats to your Emperor-class for an extra 5 points, seeing as you have 15 points free. I'm sure a bit of versitality couldn't hurt...

Thanks! Didn't think of that.

Mmmm, I can feel the ordnance launching already. And yes, I do enjoy all the latin that I put into the names. However, if you do know latin, please tell me if the names make sense, as I'm not sure some of them do.

Lord Admiral Cornelius

Battleships

Draco Invictus
1x Emperor-class Battleship 345 pts

Battlecruisers

Dominus Fortis
Novus Ordo
2x Overlord-class Battlecruisers - 2*235 = 470 pts

Cruisers

Requiem
Gladius Veritas
2x Lunar-class Cruisers – 2*180 = 360 pts

Vox Vocis
1x Dominator-class Cruiser 190 pts

Ad Astra
1x Gothic-class Cruiser 180 pts

Virtus
Gravitas
2x Defiant-class Light Cruisers – 2*130 = 260 pts

Escorts

Contego Squadron
5x Falchion-class Escorts – 5*35 = 175 pts

345+470+360+190+180+260+175 = 1980 pts

Thirdfain wrote:What about Chaos Lords and Marks of Chaos? Do I need to gain those with experience as well? Or can I start with?

I'm not familiar with Campaign rules.

Admirals gain renown after each battle and that gives them Ld increases/rerolls/Marks of Chaos. Pages 152-153 of the BFG rulebook in the Aftermath part of the Campaign rules.

And now, my fleet list

Commander
Chaos Champion Hellach Evernight

Battleships

Hell's Harbringer
Desolator-300pts

Grand Cruisers

Evicerator
Repulsive (with 45cm lances)-240pts

Heavy Cruisers

Fellblade, Blood Shower
2xHades-400pts

Cruisers

Doomwing, Debaucher
2xDevastation-380pts

Malice, Havoc
2x Carnage-360pts

Escorts

Vipers
4xInfidels-160pts

Warp Fiends
4xInfidels-160pts

2000pts

Imperial Navy

Commander
Admiral Gawain Versimilas

Battleship
Judicium Dei
1 x Retribution : 365

Battlecruisers
Validus, Lord Andetris
2 x Overlord : 470

Cruisers
Daemonifuge, Huntress
2 x Dominator : 380

Devine Hate, Proxima Centauri
2 x Dictator : 440

Escorts
Squadron Primus
3 x Falchion : 105

Squadron Secondus
3 x Firestorm : 120

Squadron Tirtius
4 x Cobra : 120

2000 points

Angels Sanguinaire Fleet

Commander
Master of the Fleet Albrius

Battle Barge
Ramiel
1 x Seditio Opprimere Battle Barge
w/Master, Terminator Boarding Parties: 550

Cruisers
Sandelphon, Metatron
2 x Strike Cruisers

Zagzagel, Zadkiel
2 x Strike Cruisers

Barakiel, Uriel
2 x Strike Cruisers

Jäger Malifica
1x Inquisitorial Black Ship

Escorts

Ahiram, Amana, Hormah, Phinehas, Shemariah, Shemer
6 x Nova Class Frigate

2000 points

The Inquisitorial Black Ship contains Inquisitor Iridius Schmell and his interegators, who are observing the Angels Sanguinaire for possible "deviant" behavior or debased genetics.

Feil, I believe the falchion's you have should come to 105, but it's such a tiny point I feel like a moron bringing it up. On another point, I like how these fleets are looking. I'm just wondering, Hellion, where did you find rules for the Black Ships?

Arujei wrote:Feil, I believe the falchion's you have should come to 105, but it's such a tiny point I feel like a moron bringing it up. On another point, I like how these fleets are looking. I'm just wondering, Hellion, where did you find rules for the Black Ships?

Specialist Games section of Games Workshop's site.

Here

Specifically, here are rules for the Black Ship among other interesting designs.

As an observer, I notice you guys have cap-heavy fleets. A quick read of the rules suggested to me that escort groups would be cheap and relatively useful?

Can we build ships that are historically ancient, like the grand cruisers?

Stark wrote:As an observer, I notice you guys have cap-heavy fleets. A quick read of the rules suggested to me that escort groups would be cheap and relatively useful?

I think we're all afraid of building too useful a fleet that can be obliterated in the beginning if someone simply uses their starting points for cap-heavy fleets, as you put it.

Plus, it will take all of us a while to build up the infrastructure to mass-produce the big ships but we have enough to keep escorts coming. We start with one Homeworld that produces 30 pts. per turn. If I focus my starting shipyard to producing Cobra destroyers (60 pts. build cost) I can make one every two turns. To build a Lunar cruiser, I'd need 360 pts. and even if I devoted an entire shipyard to building it, it would still take 3 turns.

I'll go for either Necrons, or Tyranids. I have one Tyranid fleet designed for maximum ordnance launch capability. omething like 34 torps per turn, and ~15 small craft markers.

Due to the wonderful Tyranid ability to automatically reload ordnance, I can launch that every turn. Those things are slow as can be, and my main ships have almost no other weapons, but I can cover the map with ordnance.

Or just go with a Necron fleet that has several Shroud cruisers (effectively a stealth ship) for plotting of in-system jumps, and ~750 pts of Scythes and escorts to deliver targeted kills.

grrr. everytime I try to download the PDFs the system crashes...

StarshipTitanic wrote: Plus, it will take all of us a while to build up the infrastructure to mass-produce the big ships but we have enough to keep escorts coming. We start with one Homeworld that produces 30 pts. per turn. If I focus my starting shipyard to producing Cobra destroyers (60 pts. build cost) I can make one every two turns. To build a Lunar cruiser, I'd need 360 pts. and even if I devoted an entire shipyard to building it, it would still take 3 turns.

Wait, what? I thought you only got reinforcements from appeals?