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And with that big F U to shep and company I quit! This game is not fun anymore, but I'm leaving with a bang.

P.S. I'll be playing in that fantasy campaign.

Well everything is going to hell now. Have fun in that one then.

Is anyone currently selling any military hardware btw? If so, please say so my nation can get in conflict with you and name a price.

Bluewolf wrote:Well everything is going to hell now. Have fun in that one then.

Is anyone currently selling any military hardware btw? If so, please say so my nation can get in conflict with you and name a price.

Conflict or contact?

And a bunch of nations export military hardware. Especially Tonkin.

Latter, latter. XD I don't need a war.

So is that market place still in date or is it best to go through here+and rp?

I'm selling a bunch of stuff; what are you looking for, precisely?

One aircraft Carrier, several MLRS type Artillery, several batches of Heavy SP Artillery and a few heavy lifting copters. He awaited to see if anyone had the weapons needed.

It may be a bit more or less, give or take but thats the jist of it.

Bluewolf wrote:

One aircraft Carrier, several MLRS type Artillery, several batches of Heavy SP Artillery and a few heavy lifting copters. He awaited to see if anyone had the weapons needed.

It may be a bit more or less, give or take but thats the jist of it.

Artillery and copters I've got. Was there a specific brand you wanted?

I have no real strong knowledge of the brands so please list them please so I can see if I like what you are offering.

Cialan's air force looks a bit small. Forty-four fighters, five tactical bombers, and sixteen trainers of various types? Conversely, the Langley Air Force has plenty of surplus craft in storage, and Kyoto Aviation is always on the lookout for new customers. I think you can see where I'm getting at here.

Again I will ask what types of aircraft you are selling and what brands they are if that is ok with you.

Bluewolf wrote:Again I will ask what types of aircraft you are selling and what brands they are if that is ok with you.

For newly-built aircraft, Kyoto Aviation offers the EMB 314 Super Tucano and T-50 Golden Eagle; aircraft such as the C-27J Spartan, CP-140 Aurora, and (starting at the end of this year) the R-99 are also available upon request.

The Langley Air Force has 32 heavily-upgraded F-105 Thunderchiefs acquired from Shepistan and 32 F-4 Phantom IIs of various types (sixteen F-4E Terminator 2020s, eight RF-4Es, and eight F-4G Wild Weasels) in reserve storage. There are also 132 F-101 Voodoos in reserve storage, but I've earmarked most of them for transfer to the Crimson Star Republic as target drones.

Or, instead of buying a bunch of crap from overseas which will do nothing but make your ground crews carry around ten different maintenance manuals, you could buy into the Old Continent's Eurofighter program

The latest batch of upgrades (Tranche IV) has the Eurofighter with supercruising engines, AESA radar and unified OC datalinks.

Then there is the awesome Byzantine Mig-31 which can work with NATO ordnance...

Bluewolf wrote:I have no real strong knowledge of the brands so please list them please so I can see if I like what you are offering.

In terms of military aircraft San Dorado offers a highly upgraded version of the F-111, as well as the Rafale, the latter of which might come in handy since you want to buy a carrier and we're building a carrier-capable version.

We don't build any heavy lift helicopters but we do have the NH90 medium lift chopper available. Incidentally, we can work with your engineers to make the craft compatible with whatever systems you intend to operate alongside them, so don't listen to mean grumpy PeZook - buying abroad might just save you big bucks!

BTW, Bluewolf: there was no mass air raid against Shepistan. The FUN simply ran a very, very large patrol outside their airspace

Just blame it on bogus first minute inte.

Langley, Pezook and Seige, I shall look at you offers and list what I want (if I want any), thank you for taking the time to link.

And so we brace for impact...other than that, I'm off to bed.

Norseman wrote:And with that big F U to shep and company I quit! This game is not fun anymore, but I'm leaving with a bang.

P.S. I'll be playing in that fantasy campaign.

Really? And after popping BW over the continent of Shepland it seems like you declared war on the OD.

Lonestar wrote:

Norseman wrote:And with that big F U to shep and company I quit! This game is not fun anymore, but I'm leaving with a bang.

P.S. I'll be playing in that fantasy campaign.

Really? And after popping BW over the continent of Shepland it seems like you declared war on the OD.

That'd be a bad idea, you see... I deliberately picked bio-agents that can be vaccinated against or treated with anti-biotics... IF you have the right strain of vaccine, or the right type of anti-biotic, both of which takes time and research to find. The plan was to provide the OD with both, but through FUN health organisations so as to make sure it doesn't make its way back to Shepistan.

So the OD should get a diplomatic note on that score sometime soon.

And now I head back into my retirement.

OK, here is the list of what I want airwise:

Tranche IV EuroFighter Typhoon Upgrade (X14)
Dassault Rafale M (X18)
MiG-31B (X14)
Embraer 314 A-29B Super Tucano (X18)
CP-140 Aurora (X12)
T-50 Golden Eagle (X12)
C-27J Spartan (X8)
Military Copters: NFH NH90 (X10), TTH NH90 (X10) (Proposed Development in Discussion)

Name your Prices please.

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:The line for the PzH2000 got revved up recently so I could probably provide you with that much in 1-2 years.

As for the T-90, I guess i have speccs lying around since the T-80UM and the T-90A's main difference is the turbine engine and diesel.

Ok, how much??

How long and how much would an order of 50-75 T-80UMs cost versus an order of 50-75 T-90As?

Bluewolf wrote:I have no real strong knowledge of the brands so please list them please so I can see if I like what you are offering.

Certainly. The Duchy is able to produce modern American artillery, namely the M109 self-propelled artillery piece, as well as M6 air defence artillery and MLRS batteries.

As for helicopters, we can offer the CH-53 heavy lift copter, which should prove quite sufficient to your needs.

What would be the prices for each be? I want to weigh the CH 53 up witth the NH90.

Bluewolf wrote:OK, here is the list of what I want airwise:

Tranche IV EuroFighter Typhoon Upgrade (X14)
Dassault Rafale M (X18)
MiG-31B (X14)
Embraer 314 A-29B Super Tucano (X18)
CP-140 Aurora (X12)
T-50 Golden Eagle (X12)
C-27J Spartan (X8)
Military Copters: NFH NH90 (X10), TTH NH90 (X10) (Proposed Development in Discussion)

Name your Prices please.

EMB 314/A-29 Super Tucano: $10 million each ($180 million total)
CP-140 Aurora: $75 million each ($900 million total)
T-50 Golden Eagle: $21 million each ($252 million total)
C-27J Spartan: $32 million each ($256 million total)

The bill will be coming to exactly $1.588 billion. For a flat fee of just $1.6 billion, I can throw in some other goodies (KyoAvi also produces the Fennec, Panther, and OH-58 Kiowa) in addition to the planes you've originally requested.

Not too bad, I would like to increase the amount for the Super Tucano to (X20) and the Spartan to X10.


If the throw in deal still applies then I would like AS565 UB Panthers.

Sorry I didn't get around to putting for my bid before now: F-14Es for the fighter role (32), along with T-6 Texan II for basic trainer and AT-45D for advanced trainers, and P-7G Orions for ASW.