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Spyder wrote:

Alyrium Denryle wrote:The DE proposes an analysis of the FTL drive needed for such a hit and fade attack...

We've downloaded that data and are analysing it.

It looks like some kind of troll propulsion system. The details are very vague.

That is rather hasty. It looks like they are phasing into hyperspace. We have been working on doing that for some time...but have not mastered it.

We can only phase small objects...nothing that large. And certainly nothing that isnt inert.

weemadando wrote: As for a sane resolution? How about some goddamn defenses on the space lanes? We've had to write more than five thousand letters to families in the past two days! Investigations are all well and good! But we NEED more security on the lanes and gates to survive!

KSE has stepped up security and barred all unknown vessels from our boarders. We have also deployed our entire fleet to patrol our territory Conglomocorp vessels should be safe in KSE spacelanes.

In light of the probable method of travel. We have begun patrols of hyperspace.

What we want to know, is what form of FTL EVERYONE uses.

Alyrium Denryle wrote:

Spyder wrote:

Alyrium Denryle wrote:The DE proposes an analysis of the FTL drive needed for such a hit and fade attack...

We've downloaded that data and are analysing it.

It looks like some kind of troll propulsion system. The details are very vague.

That is rather hasty. It looks like they are phasing into hyperspace. We have been working on doing that for some time...but have not mastered it.

Phasing???? What the hell???? that's far above galactic standard technology. You said the unknown ships appear to use the same form of hyperspace you do (alternate dimension B5 type rather than super fast SW FTL type) does that mean the placing of jumpgates within our territory place the KSE at grater risk??? (OOC: I'm assuming your jumpgate project in our system is done by now.)

No... a race that is capable of phasing would have no need for those jumpgates...nor can they even be used by those without the access code. No my friends. Those jumpgates are safe.

Phasing is VERY difficult. by injecting quantum 40 we can open a rift allowing us to enter hyperspace...The largest objects we can phase is are few atoms...It is very energy hungry to do....

Alyrium Denryle wrote:No... a race that is capable of phasing would have no need for those jumpgates...nor can they even be used by those without the access code. No my friends. Those jumpgates are safe.

Phasing is VERY difficult. by injecting quantum 40 we can open a rift allowing us to enter hyperspace...The largest objects we can phase is are few atoms...It is very energy hungry to do....

GODSDAMNIT! Well, how can we stop it?

Thirdfain wrote:The United Floater Republics have done nothing but assist the spread of free trade, but we would remind all ITA members that the ITASF exists to defend ITA convoys.

The Conglomocorp representative can join the ITA, and gain the protection of the ITASF, or it can defend it's own convoys, as most powers do.

They are in no position to criticize our operation.

Now this is an interesting issue. Is the role of the ITASF to protect convoys between ITA members, or is it to protect trade convoys that enter ITASF member nations? It goes without saying that what is bad for one member nation is bad for the rest, and what happens to the third party trade convoys obviously affects the receiving nation. One thing we've never discussed is at which point in the supply chain do goods entering ITA markets become ITA goods.

Straha wrote:

Alyrium Denryle wrote:No... a race that is capable of phasing would have no need for those jumpgates...nor can they even be used by those without the access code. No my friends. Those jumpgates are safe.

Phasing is VERY difficult. by injecting quantum 40 we can open a rift allowing us to enter hyperspace...The largest objects we can phase is are few atoms...It is very energy hungry to do....

GODSDAMNIT! Well, how can we stop it?

I suggest we keep our ships on constant battle alert with shields up and weapons charged. That way they can react quicker.

Spyder wrote:

Thirdfain wrote:The United Floater Republics have done nothing but assist the spread of free trade, but we would remind all ITA members that the ITASF exists to defend ITA convoys.

The Conglomocorp representative can join the ITA, and gain the protection of the ITASF, or it can defend it's own convoys, as most powers do.

They are in no position to criticize our operation.

Now this is an interesting issue. Is the role of the ITASF to protect convoys between ITA members, or is it to protect trade convoys that enter ITASF member nations? It goes without saying that what is bad for one member nation is bad for the rest, and what happens to the third party trade convoys obviously affects the receiving nation. One thing we've never discussed is at which point in the supply chain do goods entering ITA markets become ITA goods.

Simple, the ITASF protects the ships on the half of the trip that is closest to a member nation, and imposes an unpardonable punishment on those that attack the convoy on the other half of the trip.

Darksider wrote:

Straha wrote:

Alyrium Denryle wrote:No... a race that is capable of phasing would have no need for those jumpgates...nor can they even be used by those without the access code. No my friends. Those jumpgates are safe.

Phasing is VERY difficult. by injecting quantum 40 we can open a rift allowing us to enter hyperspace...The largest objects we can phase is are few atoms...It is very energy hungry to do....

GODSDAMNIT! Well, how can we stop it?

I suggest we keep our ships on constant battle alert with shields up and weapons charged. That way they can react quicker.

But how can we interdict them?

Straha wrote:

Darksider wrote:

Straha wrote: GODSDAMNIT! Well, how can we stop it?

I suggest we keep our ships on constant battle alert with shields up and weapons charged. That way they can react quicker.

But how can we interdict them?

We need to deploy as many ships as we can to escort convoys. We are building more naval vessels to combat the strain on resources and we are prepared to send our fleet units into international space to escort convoys we suggest you do the same

We believe that tightening our defenses is only a temporary solution. We of the United Floater Republics suggest a more offensive strategy. We call for the surveying and examining of all uninhabited systems in Known Space, and the charting of systems around Known Space. Any advanced civilization is fairly easy to detect, so we must begin searching immediatly.

Darksider wrote:

Straha wrote:

Darksider wrote: I suggest we keep our ships on constant battle alert with shields up and weapons charged. That way they can react quicker.

But how can we interdict them?

We need to deploy as many ships as we can to escort convoys. We are building more naval vessels to combat the strain on resources and we are prepared to send our fleet units into international space to escort convoys we suggest you do the same

Fleet? What fleet?

::looks around:: OH! That fleet, well pardon us but we'd rather not lose billions of dollars worth of equipment from one shot of their cannons.

(OOC: Do remember my fleet sucks, the navy can blow 3:1 odds and the only thing they can fight effectivley well are pirates.)

Thirdfain wrote:We believe that tightening our defenses is only a temporary solution. We of the United Floater Republics suggest a more offensive strategy. We call for the surveying and examining of all uninhabited systems in Known Space, and the charting of systems around Known Space. Any advanced civilization is fairly easy to detect, so we must begin searching immediatly.

Who says they are in a planetary system? For all we know they c0uld be operating out of some big floating asteroid in the middle of nowheredom.

Thirdfain wrote:We believe that tightening our defenses is only a temporary solution. We of the United Floater Republics suggest a more offensive strategy. We call for the surveying and examining of all uninhabited systems in Known Space, and the charting of systems around Known Space. Any advanced civilization is fairly easy to detect, so we must begin searching immediatly.

A civilization that can phase in and out of hyperspace at will will be most difficult to find. For all we know their holdings may be within hyperspace itself. We suggest using the jumpgates provided by the DE that we launch probes into hyperspace to determine where this threat comes from.

Straha wrote:
GODSDAMNIT! Well, how can we stop it?

With a device designed to keep objects firmly anchored in normal space. Or rather a network of devices.

The Minmatar can deploy drones capable of setting up interdiction nets around every major trading hub in the ITA. Any ship attempting to approach the hubs would find themselves drawn back into normal space as they're caught in the nets. A quick strike from local ITASF and naval forces would put an end to the threat and our enemies would be revealed.

(OOC: Interdiction drones are part of the Minmatar OrBat BTW)

Darksider wrote:

Thirdfain wrote:We believe that tightening our defenses is only a temporary solution. We of the United Floater Republics suggest a more offensive strategy. We call for the surveying and examining of all uninhabited systems in Known Space, and the charting of systems around Known Space. Any advanced civilization is fairly easy to detect, so we must begin searching immediatly.

A civilization that can phase in and out of hyperspace at will will be most difficult to find. For all we know their holdings may be within hyperspace itself. We suggest using the jumpgates provided by the DE that we launch probes into hyperspace to determine where this threat comes from.

OH! Aww Gods NO! Don't they teach you folk any SENSE?
::starts sobbing::
Do you know just how big Hyper-Space is, and how it defies most of the laws of Physics?

Why don't we just ship a bunch of EMP mines with all the convoys and when they come under attack, Boom we knock out all this ships untill help can be sent.

Spyder wrote:

Straha wrote:
GODSDAMNIT! Well, how can we stop it?

With a device designed to keep objects firmly anchored in normal space. Or rather a network of devices.
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The Minmatar can deploy drones capable of setting up interdiction nets around every major trading hub in the ITA. Any ship attempting to approach the hubs would find themselves drawn back into normal space as they're caught in the nets. A quick strike from local ITASF and naval forces would put an end to the threat and our enemies would be revealed.

That works, BTW could we buy a couple hundred of these things later on?

Spyder wrote:

Straha wrote:
GODSDAMNIT! Well, how can we stop it?

With a device designed to keep objects firmly anchored in normal space. Or rather a network of devices.

The Minmatar can deploy drones capable of setting up interdiction nets around every major trading hub in the ITA. Any ship attempting to approach the hubs would find themselves drawn back into normal space as they're caught in the nets. A quick strike from local ITASF and naval forces would put an end to the threat and our enemies would be revealed.

An interesting idea. It has much potential. Are you sure your interdictors will prevent ships from phasing in and out of hyperspace???

Spyder wrote:

Straha wrote:
GODSDAMNIT! Well, how can we stop it?

With a device designed to keep objects firmly anchored in normal space. Or rather a network of devices.

The Minmatar can deploy drones capable of setting up interdiction nets around every major trading hub in the ITA. Any ship attempting to approach the hubs would find themselves drawn back into normal space as they're caught in the nets. A quick strike from local ITASF and naval forces would put an end to the threat and our enemies would be revealed.

(OOC: Interdiction drones are part of the Minmatar OrBat BTW)

If the drones work then the KSE would like to place an order for seven hundred of them

I am not sure such interdictors would work. only qantum 40 can cause that breach... and ships are never compelled to follow.

We dont know how one would interdict shps in hyperspace.

We have solved the problem by patroling hyperspace, and using hyperspace probes to detect threats before they arrive.

Straha wrote: Why don't we just ship a bunch of EMP mines with all the convoys and when they come under attack, Boom we knock out all this ships untill help can be sent.

Because we don't know if the unknown vessels are shielded against EMP???