Nephtys wrote:
That looks a surprising lot like the set from MST3K Classic 'Space Mutiny'... ie, Basements in Space.
Let's be fair, now.
Space Mutiny was more of a "warehouses and industrial plants in space" movie. Completely different.
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Isn't that where they did a location shoot at some brewery? Maybe that is what accounts for the yellow pipes?
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Enigma wrote:Isn't that where they did a location shoot at some brewery? Maybe that is what accounts for the yellow pipes?
Probably. Though to be fair to the set designers, there's no reason why yellow pipes shouldn't be used on starships In fact, most of the piping on the only sub I've ever been on was beige-ish yellow...
Enigma wrote:Isn't that where they did a location shoot at some brewery? Maybe that is what accounts for the yellow pipes?
Probably. Though to be fair to the set designers, there's no reason why yellow pipes shouldn't be used on starships In fact, most of the piping on the only sub I've ever been on was beige-ish yellow...
By color coding insulated steam piping is to be painted white. However, owing to the fact that pure white is in high demand on ships you more oftend end up with eggshell or some other off white that doesn't age very well. Add to that all the lube oil entrained in the air depositing on things, and after a few months your nice white paint looks sickly and yellow.
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is it just me or is that the least attractive orion ever
No, it isn't just you. Gotta be honest, she looks a little chunky, and not in the whole "huge rack, fat ass" way. Though I'm willing to grant that body positioning and makeup could be distorting that perception.
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it looks almost like trekkie convention make rather then a movie make up to me (check the difference between the ENT orions and this one (the flesh colored lipstick doesn't help the movie one either))
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I think its' just a bad shot because she looked a lot less poorly done in the trailer. Either that or Kirk isn't picky.
By color coding insulated steam piping is to be painted white. However, owing to the fact that pure white is in high demand on ships you more oftend end up with eggshell or some other off white that doesn't age very well. Add to that all the lube oil entrained in the air depositing on things, and after a few months your nice white paint looks sickly and yellow.
Is yellow a colour coding for anything or is it just a brewery thing?
Very Coruscanty shot of San Francisco there. Rather nice actually, the whole unchanged 20th century city-scape of the previous movies was sort of dull for "the future!".
I'm still not fond of the whole angsty Kirk the Jerk thing but oh well.
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Darth Onasi wrote:Very Coruscanty shot of San Francisco there. Rather nice actually, the whole unchanged 20th century city-scape of the previous movies was sort of dull for "the future!".
I'm still not fond of the whole angsty Kirk the Jerk thing but oh well.
I actually liked the idea once I understood what they were doing with it- to a point. The idea seems to be that Kirk's past is altered, making him a fundamentally different person, and Spock is trying to get him on track. They could do a lot with that idea, and it seems to be a thinly-veiled attempt to ensure the actor isn't expected to mimic Shatner.
What I do have a problem with is Pike in the trailer: "Your father did a great thing for the few minutes he captained a starship, so obviously you're genetically pre-destined for the same thing, even though he didn't raise you." Realistically, you'd have to write Kirk off as he's a completely different person.
tim31 wrote:Pike's selling a line of bullshit in order to try and get the son of a (friend?) off the streets and into a uniform. What's the problem?
Maybe in the movie that will be more clear, but one would think an experienced Starfleet officer would know that if Kirk is a bar-brawling punk in his early-to-mid 20s, there's not much that can be done to whip him into shape. Of course, it's a movie, so he'll be right.
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Maybe in the movie that will be more clear, but one would think an experienced Starfleet officer would know that if Kirk is a bar-brawling punk in his early-to-mid 20s, there's not much that can be done to whip him into shape. Of course, it's a movie, so he'll be right.
Assuming that Trek in this incarnation has a proper Basic Officer Training and a well structured Academy program, there is no reason why he wouldn't turn out to be a proper officer. Plenty of people in their early twenties sign up and un-fuck themselves. Remember that Kirk is going to be at the Academy for four years.
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The more I look at it, the more it looks like the Enterprise bridge in this film took the Ent-E set and stripped it down and re-dressed it heavily.
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tim31 wrote:Pike's selling a line of bullshit in order to try and get the son of a (friend?) off the streets and into a uniform. What's the problem?
Maybe in the movie that will be more clear, but one would think an experienced Starfleet officer would know that if Kirk is a bar-brawling punk in his early-to-mid 20s, there's not much that can be done to whip him into shape. Of course, it's a movie, so he'll be right.
Pike needs something to get Kirk motivated, and "make your dead daddy proud" is as good a motivational speech as any. especially if he knows Kirk is cocky. I don't think he even expects Kirk to do any good, but if he's off the street and doing something constructive in Starfleet - hey, result.
As for why he does it... even if Pike didn't know George, Kirk is still a Starfleet orphan. Pike might have some sort of guilt-by-proxy thing going on.
tim31 wrote:Pike's selling a line of bullshit in order to try and get the son of a (friend?) off the streets and into a uniform. What's the problem?
Maybe in the movie that will be more clear, but one would think an experienced Starfleet officer would know that if Kirk is a bar-brawling punk in his early-to-mid 20s, there's not much that can be done to whip him into shape. Of course, it's a movie, so he'll be right.
Pike needs something to get Kirk motivated, and "make your dead daddy proud" is as good a motivational speech as any. especially if he knows Kirk is cocky. I don't think he even expects Kirk to do any good, but if he's off the street and doing something constructive in Starfleet - hey, result.
As for why he does it... even if Pike didn't know George, Kirk is still a Starfleet orphan. Pike might have some sort of guilt-by-proxy thing going on.
I suspect Pike's character is getting folded together with Robert April (the first Captain of the Enterprise, who only appeared in the Animated Series), and some of what the non-canon novels touched on with him. George Kirk was either his XO, or Security Officer, I forget which.
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