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Re: The Star Trek trailer

Posted: 2008-11-19 02:18pm
by McC
TrekMovie has a spoilery shot-for-shot analysis of the trailer.

Re: The Star Trek trailer

Posted: 2008-11-19 02:23pm
by Bounty
Great article, if a bit nitpickery. The CANON ALERTS are funny at times - I made the exact same "Kirk doesn't drive stick!" comment on TrekBBS :lol:

EDIT: Hey, it's Doctor... Beckett, is it? The Stargate guy in the hangar.

Re: The Star Trek trailer

Posted: 2008-11-19 02:57pm
by Darth Onasi
It'd be interesting if the cop is a robot, sort of a stab in the face at TNG's "oh lolz we're too damn stupid to mass produce any kind of humanoid robot while an old man in a tool shed did it 40 years ago".
But really do they *have* to show Kirk and Spock being born? Seems nothing but a waste of screen time to me.

Re: The Star Trek trailer

Posted: 2008-11-19 05:05pm
by JME2
Huh. I didn't notice that Sulu was wielding a sword when I saw the trailer; I was wondering if we were going to see him doing that at all... :)

"Oh my."

Re: The Star Trek trailer

Posted: 2008-11-19 06:42pm
by Pulp Hero
I'm thinking the "cop" is Old-Spock disguising himself.

Re: The Star Trek trailer

Posted: 2008-11-19 07:55pm
by Thanatos
Man, what is with people and this robot cop bullshit? Its clearly a helmeted cop with a voice box and vision system.

The only thing stupider is claiming its Spock.

Re: The Star Trek trailer

Posted: 2008-11-19 09:39pm
by tim31
Thanatos wrote:The only thing stupider is claiming its Spock.
There's nothing stupid in claiming it. I wouldn't raise an eyebrow at this stage if he's right.

Re: The Star Trek trailer

Posted: 2008-11-19 11:18pm
by Bob the Gunslinger
The "robocop" sure does sound like Nimoy speaking through a face mask...

Re: The Star Trek trailer

Posted: 2008-11-19 11:24pm
by JME2
Bob the Gunslinger wrote:The "robocop" sure does sound like Nimoy speaking through a face mask...
I don't think so; sounds too young.

Re: The Star Trek trailer

Posted: 2008-11-19 11:33pm
by Singular Intellect
I'm actually becoming more and more interested in seeing this.

It's an obvious significant remake, time travel plot not withstanding.

Perhaps I'm just overly optimistic given other reset/remake efforts, like Batman.

At the very least I expect it to be a good popcorn flick if nothing else.

Re: The Star Trek trailer

Posted: 2008-11-19 11:53pm
by Kamakazie Sith
Bob the Gunslinger wrote:The "robocop" sure does sound like Nimoy speaking through a face mask...
I thought it sounded like the voice of Optimus Prime.

Re: The Star Trek trailer

Posted: 2008-11-20 06:35am
by Bounty
Thanatos wrote:Man, what is with people and this robot cop bullshit? Its clearly a helmeted cop with a voice box and vision system.

The only thing stupider is claiming its Spock.
Indeed. Why would Spock pose as a highway cop? It doesn't make the least bit of sense.

The cop's facemask does look a bit elaborate for what is basically a bike helmet, but this is TEH FUTESHURE, so I'll give it a pass. definitely not a robot, though.

Re: The Star Trek trailer

Posted: 2008-11-20 09:13am
by Darth Onasi
Looking at the hangar scene.. is it just me or does it look like a scene from V? :P

Re: The Star Trek trailer

Posted: 2008-11-20 11:26am
by McC

Re: The Star Trek trailer

Posted: 2008-11-20 09:44pm
by Singular Intellect
Bounty wrote:The cop's facemask does look a bit elaborate for what is basically a bike helmet
Why hasn't anyone else considered that perhaps it's just an alien police officer, who cannot handle Earth's atmosphere and potential lighting conditions?

Re: The Star Trek trailer

Posted: 2008-11-20 10:36pm
by Samuel
Bubble Boy wrote:
Bounty wrote:The cop's facemask does look a bit elaborate for what is basically a bike helmet
Why hasn't anyone else considered that perhaps it's just an alien police officer, who cannot handle Earth's atmosphere and potential lighting conditions?
Earth importing alien police officers... who are vulnerable to the planet's atmosphere? That is just the kind of thinking that qualifies you as Federation officer material!

Re: The Star Trek trailer

Posted: 2008-11-20 10:45pm
by Singular Intellect
Samuel wrote:
Bubble Boy wrote:
Bounty wrote:The cop's facemask does look a bit elaborate for what is basically a bike helmet
Why hasn't anyone else considered that perhaps it's just an alien police officer, who cannot handle Earth's atmosphere and potential lighting conditions?
Earth importing alien police officers... who are vulnerable to the planet's atmosphere? That is just the kind of thinking that qualifies you as Federation officer material!
Right...after all, hostile living conditions ensure exploration and work do not take place at said locations. That's why we don't do things like set up camps in the Antarctic or dive multi-kilometers under the sea because those situations are so hostile to human life.

I mean shit, if that alien had a serious problem with his life support system, you'd have to be able to fucking teleport him to safety because it's so dangerous, right? :roll:

Re: The Star Trek trailer

Posted: 2008-11-20 10:51pm
by Samuel
Well, unlike the deep sea, we have individuals who can work in this environement on the surface. Even better, we don't have to go off planet to get them!
I mean shit, if that alien had a serious problem with his life support system, you'd have to be able to fucking teleport him to safety because it's so dangerous, right?
The transporter is a high end piece of military gear. In the entire series, there is no indication that it is used by anyone but the fleet.

Not to mention it just makes thing horribly complicated.

Re: The Star Trek trailer

Posted: 2008-11-20 11:12pm
by Gandalf
Couldn't it just be a suit to make things more comfortable for the human rider?

It could have an Iron Man style user interface, or something like what fighter pilots wear to deal with g forces.

Re: The Star Trek trailer

Posted: 2008-11-20 11:14pm
by Singular Intellect
Samuel wrote:Well, unlike the deep sea, we have individuals who can work in this environement on the surface. Even better, we don't have to go off planet to get them!
You've never heard of cultural exchange programs, have you?

Apparently it's been classified only to you that Starfleet typically employs the mentality that any peaceful and productive species is welcome to Earth.
I mean shit, if that alien had a serious problem with his life support system, you'd have to be able to fucking teleport him to safety because it's so dangerous, right?
The transporter is a high end piece of military gear. In the entire series, there is no indication that it is used by anyone but the fleet.
Starfleet security used transporters to get to Harry Kim's location when he was under house arrest in a Voyager episode. And that's just off the top of my head. So either Starfleet replaced the police forces or the police forces have been shown to use them. Take your pick.
Not to mention it just makes thing horribly complicated.
I've heard a mass transportation system that requires maintaining roads, production and maintenance of millions of personal vehicles, driver education facilities, insurance laws/facilities, safety laws/facilities and several other interesting ideas is also a complicated idea.

But yeah, I guess potentially one alien police officer is a bit much, huh?

Re: The Star Trek trailer

Posted: 2008-11-20 11:16pm
by Singular Intellect
Gandalf wrote:Couldn't it just be a suit to make things more comfortable for the human rider?
If it is, it's one hell of a shitty design.
It could have an Iron Man style user interface, or something like what fighter pilots wear to deal with g forces.
Even fighter pilots tend to have helmets that they can, you know, see out of with their own eyes....

Re: The Star Trek trailer

Posted: 2008-11-20 11:23pm
by Gandalf
Bubble Boy wrote:
Gandalf wrote:Couldn't it just be a suit to make things more comfortable for the human rider?
If it is, it's one hell of a shitty design.
Based on... ?
It could have an Iron Man style user interface, or something like what fighter pilots wear to deal with g forces.
Even fighter pilots tend to have helmets that they can, you know, see out of with their own eyes....
But Iron Man didn't, which is my point. They've got viewscreens, so this isn't too far off.

Re: The Star Trek trailer

Posted: 2008-11-20 11:32pm
by Singular Intellect
Gandalf wrote:
Bubble Boy wrote:
Gandalf wrote:Couldn't it just be a suit to make things more comfortable for the human rider?
If it is, it's one hell of a shitty design.
Based on... ?
Noticing there's no possible way the officer has peripheral vision, for one.
Even fighter pilots tend to have helmets that they can, you know, see out of with their own eyes....
But Iron Man didn't, which is my point. They've got viewscreens, so this isn't too far off.
I don't see how Iron Man's wank has anything to do with this. He's so armored and sensored up anyhow that seeing something out of the corner of his eye isn't all that important.

Neither of which has been established for our officer here, by the way.

Re: The Star Trek trailer

Posted: 2008-11-20 11:51pm
by Gandalf
Bubble Boy wrote:I don't see how Iron Man's wank has anything to do with this. He's so armored and sensored up anyhow that seeing something out of the corner of his eye isn't all that important.

Neither of which has been established for our officer here, by the way.
Thank you, Doctor Nog. :roll:

I know that nothing's been established. I'm commenting on what's possible based on what the Trekverse has been seen to have.

We've seen in assorted publicity shots that there's a lot of interesting user interface work going on, most notably in the bridge viewscreen which may be a window. This is where I got my idea of some in helmet interface. Information could be fed to him from afar on things like road conditions or if he needs to be somewhere.

Re: The Star Trek trailer

Posted: 2008-11-21 12:05am
by Singular Intellect
Gandalf wrote:
Bubble Boy wrote:I don't see how Iron Man's wank has anything to do with this. He's so armored and sensored up anyhow that seeing something out of the corner of his eye isn't all that important.

Neither of which has been established for our officer here, by the way.
Thank you, Doctor Nog. :roll:

I know that nothing's been established. I'm commenting on what's possible based on what the Trekverse has been seen to have.

We've seen in assorted publicity shots that there's a lot of interesting user interface work going on, most notably in the bridge viewscreen which may be a window. This is where I got my idea of some in helmet interface. Information could be fed to him from afar on things like road conditions or if he needs to be somewhere.
And this requires severely restricting the user's vision...why again?