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Havok wrote:I'm telling you guys,,, they are going to release EPVII in May. If something gets bumped it will be Avengers 2, but there is no reason to. Both movies are going to be seen by millions and millions of people and almost no one is going to have an issue paying to see both.

The issue with me is Disney now has to buy the "Fox Fanfare" to put at the beginning of the movie.

What's wrong with Tinkerbell flying over the castle to "When you wish upon a star..."

I'd be more concerned with the absence of John Williams than Alfred Neuman.

Stark wrote:Why not? I'm not seeing compelling reasons.

Havok wrote:I don't think getting Williams will be an issue unless he dies.

Elfdart wrote:

Stark wrote:Why not? I'm not seeing compelling reasons.

John Carter, for one.

Now that Star Wars is going to be a studio project with a huge amount of pressure to try to recover a chunk of the >$4 billion Disney paid for it before shooting begins, there will be multitudes of fingers in the pie. No studio would have ever agreed to shoot TESB with the good guys being thrashed on every level. That was Lucas' decision. Now he's out of the picture so every creative decision will now be approved by a committee.

Havok wrote:I don't think getting Williams will be an issue unless he dies.

He just turned 80.

News/Star Wars 7 Plot Will Be "an Original Story," Says Lucasfilm Source

If Disney is buying LucasFilm, how will that affect Star Wars: Episode 7 and other Star Wars projects? Any word on what the movie will be about?
—Flannel, via Twitter

Well, we know that, whatever the plot of Episode 7, George Lucas won't have a heavy hand in the day-to-day creation of it. He's apparently written the treatments for the films, but he won't produce or direct—an excellent opportunity for another visionary to jettison Jar Jar Binks out of an airlock permanently.

As for the plot, Star Wars superfans have a theory on what they'll be seeing next. But I have a surprise for them: They're wrong. If you're a fan, you're definitely gonna want to read on.

First of all, you should know that there is an official canon concerning the Star Wars universe. Those stories cover the years after rebel victory (i.e., after Return of the Jedi). It's written in a series of books called the Thrawn Trilogy, by author Timothy Zahn. Die-hard Star Wars fans know the trilogy well, and they say that a big-screen adaptation of the first book, Heir to the Empire, would make the most logical Episode 7.

"Of all the speculation out there about the content of this new trilogy, that's the single most concrete idea," says Eric Geller of the fan site TheForce.net. "It's almost inevitable that the story will take place in the same time frame as those books."

So what happens in "those books?"

Well, Luke Skywalker meets a real would-be assassin lady named Mara Jade, who was trained to avenge the Emperor by crushing Luke's pretty blond head. Instead, Jade falls for Luke and, a subsequent graphic novel, the two marry. Skywalker also has to deal with the fact that he's the only Jedi left, at least, for now, and he goes about trying to fix that.

Princess Leia and Han Solo also play heavily into the Thrawn Trilogy, popping out a pair of twins (of course) among other things. As for the name Thrawn, well, that refers to a grand admiral with imperial sympathies who takes over as the leader of the vanquished enemy faction.

So is that the basis for Episode 7 or not? I've heard directly from LucasFilm and other sources close to the picture, and they say: Definitely not.

"It's an original story," a LucasFilm source tells me.

In other words, forget the Star Wars novels. Forget the graphic novels. Forget everything you think you know about what happens to Luke Skywalker. According to my sources, Episode 7 will literally be nothing you've ever seen or read before from the Star Wars universe.

I also hear from several sources that, no matter what you may hear to the contrary, no director has been officially attached to the project.

Meanwhile, there isn't much news regarding the other big Star Wars projects currently in development.

A spoofy cartoon TV series, Detours, was announced in August, spearheaded by Seth Green and the other creators of Robot Chicken. No release dates or networks were revealed, but Disney has said that it envisions some sort of Star Wars presence on its Disney XD channel. I wouldn't be surprised if Detours landed there.

Lastly, there's the live action series, which has been bubbling around since 2008 and which is supposed to take place between Episodes 3 and 4, when Luke Skywalker is growing up.

As I reported earlier, Lucasfilm was still talking in enthusiastic terms about Star Wars: Underworld less than a year ago. At that time, the show had a lot of scripts in the can but no financing. But if there's one thing that Disney has, it's money. Still, insiders tell me it's too soon to expect any announcements on either series.

Guess we'll just have to pray that Jar Jar has nothing to do with any of 'em.

JLTucker wrote:Why would anyone want Williams to come in and recycle music and continue composing material that is completely lazy and uninspired?

JLTucker wrote:Why would anyone want Williams to come in and recycle music and continue composing material that is completely lazy and uninspired?

As for directors, someone told me that Jackson and Neil Blomkamp would be good directors to choose. I'm not sure how I feel about that.

Elfdart wrote:I hope this is true.

Stark wrote: Or maybe you're right, and they're just butthurt fans screeching 'rape my childhood' (which I believe was literally posted on the first page).

Havok wrote:

Elfdart wrote:I hope this is true.

To think that any director or producer would want to adapt an EU story to kick off a new series of Star Wars movies is pretty asinine. People just need to get used to the fact that no one in charge cares about the EU outside of the money they keep paying for it.

People latch on to the fact that Lucas gave DE as gifts one year and that he used a few names from the EU in the PT as an indicator that the EU has some bearing on anything. Just not true.

Batman wrote:I know a lot of the locals don't like Thrawn's 'knows the art, knows their military strategies' spiel (and frankly I don't understand how that is supposed to work either) but by and large (and ignoring the scale issue which permeates pretty much all of the EU) the Thrawn Trilogy/Duology were still pretty damned good reading.

Years ago this might have made me upset, but now I'm just hoping that any new movies are good enough for me to even care about the franchise again.

Elfdart wrote:

Years ago this might have made me upset, but now I'm just hoping that any new movies are good enough for me to even care about the franchise again.

You're posting about it? You care.

Elfdart wrote:I'm amused by people who don't want George Lucas or John Williams involved in Star Wars. If you don't like either or both, why the fuck are you even interested in Star Wars in the first place?

Elfdart wrote:I'm amused by people who don't want George Lucas or John Williams involved in Star Wars. If you don't like either or both, why the fuck are you even interested in Star Wars in the first place?

Elfdart wrote:I'm amused by people who don't want George Lucas or John Williams involved in Star Wars. If you don't like either or both, why the fuck are you even interested in Star Wars in the first place?

Batman wrote:I know a lot of the locals don't like Thrawn's 'knows the art, knows their military strategies' spiel (and frankly I don't understand how that is supposed to work either) but by and large (and ignoring the scale issue which permeates pretty much all of the EU) the Thrawn Trilogy/Duology were still pretty damned good reading.

Thrawn is basically Sherlock Holmes: he can take any clue, no matter how miniscule, and deduce everything he needs to know from it. His sidekick (whose name escapes me) is his foil, Dr. Watson.

Mr Bean wrote:Also serious question time... who doesn't want John Williams involved? Can we get someone's hand raised here? Why would we want the most award winning composer in... ever to not work on it? The guy who's been working solid for fifty years now and is on his way to building a third vacation home purely out of the awards he's won over the years? The guy who has five spots under the most memorable film score lists to himself?

Stark wrote:

Elfdart wrote:I'm amused by people who don't want George Lucas or John Williams involved in Star Wars. If you don't like either or both, why the fuck are you even interested in Star Wars in the first place?

Is this a serious question?

Some people - normal people - just liked some movies and don't give a hoot about who did what when why. It doesn't help me give a shit when basically everything Lucas has made in decades has been terrible, and not having him around might increase the chance of something new being done.

And before you act stunned and clutch the prayer beads, my only concern is if SW can actually be interesting again.