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Posted: 2004-09-26 11:16pm
by Sea Skimmer
Straha wrote:
I said I'd have everything east of modern day Tunisia. That's what it looks like to me.
I offered you a point between Tripoli and Benghazi. Do you know the location of those cities?

Posted: 2004-09-26 11:18pm
by SirNitram
Stormbringer wrote:Anyone have an objection to me using Wheel of Time type magic?
Describe it?

Posted: 2004-09-26 11:21pm
by Hotfoot
SirNitram wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:Anyone have an objection to me using Wheel of Time type magic?
Describe it?
I do not know the WoT series, so I would have to know what the basic capabilities and limits of such magic involve.

Posted: 2004-09-26 11:22pm
by Sea Skimmer
Pablo Sanchez wrote:
That isn't you in the red. That's me. You have to PM Thirdfain to register your nation. You have not done this, so you are not on the map. Also, I never asked for Tunisia, the map is in error giving it to me.

If you want to control more of North Africa, I would be perfectly willing to simply occupy the north of Spain instead.
So I completely lose my spot because I wasn't around for a couple hours? If this game is being decided by post quickly and often before it's even begun then I think I'll just sit it out.

Posted: 2004-09-26 11:22pm
by Stormbringer
SirNitram wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:Anyone have an objection to me using Wheel of Time type magic?
Describe it?
It's kind of hard to in just a few minutes.

Anyway, it's general sort of magic. Healing, killing, all sorts of things. Most users are extremely limited. Healing people is enough to take it out of them real quick. Some nifty stuff with strengthening and preserving materials.

Living weapons that are more of less primitive artilerry. I'm not going to be touching the uberweapons and with the population leves I have there won't be many to train for that anyway.

About 1% or so of the population.


Because the magic is limited by them seeing the "threads" of the magic they're all suck with visual range stuff.

Posted: 2004-09-26 11:23pm
by Alyrium Denryle
Straha wrote:
Hotfoot wrote:Rough Political Map

Any questions/comments?
Yeah, is anyone taking Turkey, because the only reason I dropped my claim to it is because Ithought someone would takeit.

Of course its going to be mine either way now... :twisted:
You realize of course, that you will have to take the intermittent city states, and actually work to maintain your massive suply lines right? Because I volunteer to personally oversee the defense of any NPC city state that comes under siege by... anyone other than myself.

Posted: 2004-09-26 11:24pm
by Alyrium Denryle
Sea Skimmer wrote:
Pablo Sanchez wrote:
That isn't you in the red. That's me. You have to PM Thirdfain to register your nation. You have not done this, so you are not on the map. Also, I never asked for Tunisia, the map is in error giving it to me.

If you want to control more of North Africa, I would be perfectly willing to simply occupy the north of Spain instead.
So I completely lose my spot because I wasn't around for a couple hours? If this game is being decided by post quickly and often before it's even begun then I think I'll just sit it out.
Just register, the map can be changed.

Posted: 2004-09-26 11:24pm
by Rogue 9
Alyrium Denryle wrote:Because I volunteer to personally oversee the defense of any NPC city state that comes under siege by... anyone other than myself.
That's Hotfoot's job. He's moderator and not having a nation for just this purpose.

Posted: 2004-09-26 11:24pm
by Alyrium Denryle
Rogue 9 wrote:
Alyrium Denryle wrote:Because I volunteer to personally oversee the defense of any NPC city state that comes under siege by... anyone other than myself.
That's Hotfoot's job. He's moderator and not having a nation for just this purpose.
Ah ok... damn, that would have been fun ;)

Posted: 2004-09-26 11:24pm
by Beowulf
Rogue 9 wrote:
Beowulf wrote:
Rogue 9 wrote:Okay, beginnings of my OOB up. The dwarven subcultures are based heavily on the dwarven culture that I wrote for the Quentriandal roleplaying forums. Question: Would black powder be an unacceptable thing to have? (As I envision it, the blasting powder is considered sacred by the dwarves and is not used for combat/is dishonorable to use for combat, but rather for tunnelling, though I acknowledge that it could cause problems if someone somehow managed to steal some.)
Judging by the response I got from Thirdfain, yes. You either cannot use it to propel something, or can't have magic. And it'll probably be rather expensive...
Well I don't want to use it for combat, so if it's going to cost me combat regiments, it's not worth it.
Well... if not for combat, it's merely going to be monetarily expensive to produce. I am going to be using it for combat, so my army is smaller. It's only going to be about 21 regiments in strength, and I'll have no navy. The smaller army also has other reasons behind it though.

Posted: 2004-09-26 11:25pm
by Pablo Sanchez
Sea Skimmer wrote:So I completely lose my spot because I wasn't around for a couple hours? If this game is being decided by post quickly and often before it's even begun then I think I'll just sit it out.
I offered to fix it up for you, but if you'd rather stick out your lower lip and stomp away, you're welcome to that course of action as well.

Posted: 2004-09-26 11:33pm
by Hotfoot
Stormbringer wrote:It's kind of hard to in just a few minutes.

Anyway, it's general sort of magic. Healing, killing, all sorts of things. Most users are extremely limited. Healing people is enough to take it out of them real quick. Some nifty stuff with strengthening and preserving materials.

Living weapons that are more of less primitive artilerry. I'm not going to be touching the uberweapons and with the population leves I have there won't be many to train for that anyway.

About 1% or so of the population.


Because the magic is limited by them seeing the "threads" of the magic they're all suck with visual range stuff.
Sounds like it's reasonable enough for the most part, so I'd be inclined to allow it, pending review by Thirdfain.

Posted: 2004-09-26 11:40pm
by Sea Skimmer
Pablo Sanchez wrote:
I offered to fix it up for you, but if you'd rather stick out your lower lip and stomp away, you're welcome to that course of action as well.
I don't consider an empire consisting of Tunisia to be fixed.

Posted: 2004-09-26 11:42pm
by Straha
Alyrium Denryle wrote:
Straha wrote:
Hotfoot wrote:Rough Political Map

Any questions/comments?
Yeah, is anyone taking Turkey, because the only reason I dropped my claim to it is because Ithought someone would takeit.

Of course its going to be mine either way now... :twisted:
You realize of course, that you will have to take the intermittent city states, and actually work to maintain your massive suply lines right? Because I volunteer to personally oversee the defense of any NPC city state that comes under siege by... anyone other than myself.
Of course I realise that. How long do you think city states can hold out to an organized war machine which has just gobbled up dozens of them before hand.

Posted: 2004-09-26 11:43pm
by Stormbringer
As to the magic, I'll be happy to answer any questions as best I can. And I'd prefer to do it before hand.

Posted: 2004-09-26 11:44pm
by Straha
Sea Skimmer wrote:
Pablo Sanchez wrote:
I offered to fix it up for you, but if you'd rather stick out your lower lip and stomp away, you're welcome to that course of action as well.
I don't consider an empire consisting of Tunisia to be fixed.
Then take another area, large portions of Europe are unclaimed and ripe for the taking. Though if you take Tunisia, you will undoubtably have the fixed attention, and support, of many states who seem very willing to try and stop my advance.

Posted: 2004-09-26 11:45pm
by Pablo Sanchez
Sea Skimmer wrote:I don't consider an empire consisting of Tunisia to be fixed.
ME wrote:If you want to control more of North Africa, I would be perfectly willing to simply occupy the north of Spain instead.
You're 0 for 3 in reading comprehension for this thread.

Stormbringer wants to vacate Northern Spain in return for more of France... I will then move into Northern Spain... and you will then move across North Africa. Not a difficult thing. We're sort of rotating in a clockwise fashion.

Posted: 2004-09-26 11:45pm
by Alyrium Denryle
Straha wrote:
Alyrium Denryle wrote:
Straha wrote: Yeah, is anyone taking Turkey, because the only reason I dropped my claim to it is because Ithought someone would takeit.

Of course its going to be mine either way now... :twisted:
You realize of course, that you will have to take the intermittent city states, and actually work to maintain your massive suply lines right? Because I volunteer to personally oversee the defense of any NPC city state that comes under siege by... anyone other than myself.
Of course I realise that. How long do you think city states can hold out to an organized war machine which has just gobbled up dozens of them before hand.
You will be amazed. This isnt like the other STGODs. fixed fortifications are deadly, and with the size of your army, you will have difficulty projecting your power, on the basis of supply lines alone.

Hell, your army may starve before the city does.

City states could hold against the might of Rome for months sometimes YEARS. And you must devote a significant amount of your troops, just to holding your vast tracts of land

Posted: 2004-09-26 11:46pm
by Stormbringer
Pablo Sanchez wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote:I don't consider an empire consisting of Tunisia to be fixed.
ME wrote:If you want to control more of North Africa, I would be perfectly willing to simply occupy the north of Spain instead.
You're 0 for 3 in reading comprehension for this thread.

Stormbringer wants to vacate Northern Spain in return for more of France... I will then move into Northern Spain... and you will then move across North Africa. Not a difficult thing. We're sort of rotating in a clockwise fashion.
A bit. Like to the land bridge around the crater to the present border on Med side.

Posted: 2004-09-26 11:47pm
by Straha
Alyrium Denryle wrote:
Straha wrote:
Alyrium Denryle wrote: You realize of course, that you will have to take the intermittent city states, and actually work to maintain your massive suply lines right? Because I volunteer to personally oversee the defense of any NPC city state that comes under siege by... anyone other than myself.
Of course I realise that. How long do you think city states can hold out to an organized war machine which has just gobbled up dozens of them before hand.
You will be amazed. This isnt like the other STGODs. fixed fortifications are deadly, and with the size of your army, you will have difficulty projecting your power, on the basis of supply lines alone.

Hell, your army may starve before the city does.
My armies are right at the borders right now, this is a Jihad, and we've got a siege train behind us that will make cities wheep in terror. We start battering a small city with fire, oil, dieseased yak corpses, etc. and we don't need to wait for them to starve. ANd if we leave small groups behind in fortifications surrounding the city to prevent a break-out I can have the rest of the Army march on without any opposition.

Posted: 2004-09-26 11:47pm
by SirNitram
Alyrium Denryle wrote:You will be amazed. This isnt like the other STGODs. fixed fortifications are deadly, and with the size of your army, you will have difficulty projecting your power, on the basis of supply lines alone.

Hell, your army may starve before the city does.

City states could hold against the might of Rome for months sometimes YEARS
Declared fortifications are deadly. There's a reason I dropped a huge amount on my Home Guard.

Posted: 2004-09-26 11:47pm
by Pablo Sanchez
Stormbringer wrote:A bit. Like to the land bridge around the crater to the present border on Med side.
I know. Even minus Catalonia, I'd still be increasing my useable land area by switching Algeria and Morocco for Oporto and Galicia.

Posted: 2004-09-26 11:48pm
by Alyrium Denryle
SirNitram wrote:
Alyrium Denryle wrote:You will be amazed. This isnt like the other STGODs. fixed fortifications are deadly, and with the size of your army, you will have difficulty projecting your power, on the basis of supply lines alone.

Hell, your army may starve before the city does.

City states could hold against the might of Rome for months sometimes YEARS
Declared fortifications are deadly. There's a reason I dropped a huge amount on my Home Guard.
Pretty much my entire army is on garrison duty.

Posted: 2004-09-26 11:49pm
by Stormbringer
Pablo Sanchez wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:A bit. Like to the land bridge around the crater to the present border on Med side.
I know. Even minus Catalonia, I'd still be increasing my useable land area by switching Algeria and Morocco for Oporto and Galicia.
Okay. I just wanted that clarified since I'd like to just move the present line about the Med side till it touchs the 'crater'

Posted: 2004-09-26 11:50pm
by Sea Skimmer
Straha wrote: My armies are right at the borders right now, this is a Jihad, and we've got a siege train behind us that will make cities wheep in terror. We start battering a small city with fire, oil, dieseased yak corpses, etc. and we don't need to wait for them to starve. ANd if we leave small groups behind in fortifications surrounding the city to prevent a break-out I can have the rest of the Army march on without any opposition.
Siege trains didn't exist at this point in time. You almost always had to build anything you where going to use after you'd settled into the siege, and even then the catapults simply didn't have the ability to smash down walls, and battering rams and siege towers can be countered pretty easily. You also cannot simply leave a small group behind to contain a city, its a task that requires an entire army.