[STGOD] Primary Story Thread

GEC: Discuss gaming, computers and electronics and venture into the bizarre world of STGODs.

Moderator: Thanas

Locked
User avatar
Spyder
Sith Marauder
Posts: 4465
Joined: 2002-09-03 03:23am
Location: Wellington, New Zealand
Contact:

Post by Spyder »

"I hereby offer ITA trade incentives (which include stock options in the ITA goods exchange framework, which is currently a Minmatar project) if hostilities between founding members can come to an end, through any means possible."
:D
User avatar
The Yosemite Bear
Mostly Harmless Nutcase (Requiescat in Pace)
Posts: 35211
Joined: 2002-07-21 02:38am
Location: Dave's Not Here Man

Post by The Yosemite Bear »

We do have a suggestion involving Asgard and Floater diplomats, a locked room, and no food, but that was deem morally unjust.
Image

The scariest folk song lyrics are "My Boy Grew up to be just like me" from cats in the cradle by Harry Chapin
User avatar
Stormbringer
King of Democracy
Posts: 22678
Joined: 2002-07-15 11:22pm

Post by Stormbringer »

Thirdfain wrote:The ITA continues to ensure free trade, even among formerly agressive powers. Trade does take place, though not in the volume it once did.

Again, I ask: Is the Asgard Empire suggesting that all Floater merchantmen cease entering ASgard territory, and all Asgard merchantmen cease entering Floater territory?

Many of our cartels make runs through Asgard territory on the way to the Outworld Alliance, and there are Floater presences in many systems which the Asgard Empire trades heavily in, such as in the Pan-Slavic Republic and the NAU.

What the Asgard are suggesting is a complete stop to trade between the Asgard and systems with Floater presences.
Merely any armed Floater vessel.
Image
User avatar
Stormbringer
King of Democracy
Posts: 22678
Joined: 2002-07-15 11:22pm

Post by Stormbringer »

Spyder wrote:"I hereby offer ITA trade incentives (which include stock options in the ITA goods exchange framework, which is currently a Minmatar project) if hostilities between founding members can come to an end, through any means possible."
We have attempted to live in peace with the Floaters but they continue their reckless behaviour indifferent to the fact that such behaviour started the last war. It is not our desire to drag these hosilities out any further but the Floaters have shown a reckless disregard for saftey and sanity. Until the Floaters can bring themselves to show respect for international law we are forced to take these measures.
Image
User avatar
Thirdfain
The Player of Games
Posts: 6924
Joined: 2003-02-13 09:24pm
Location: Never underestimate the staggering drawing power of the Garden State.

Post by Thirdfain »

What about Floater warships in the ITASF? Or Floater warships working to guard trade lanes, as ordered by the ITA's chancellor? Or the Floater warships in our own systems, in which you conduct at least some trade? Or the Floater escorts guarding our trade convoys going to NBA members, such as the Skaven?

Your suggestion is unreasonable, but it is apparant you will stay by it.
Image

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite.
John Kenneth Galbraith (1908 - )
User avatar
Stormbringer
King of Democracy
Posts: 22678
Joined: 2002-07-15 11:22pm

Post by Stormbringer »

Thirdfain wrote:What about Floater warships in the ITASF? Or Floater warships working to guard trade lanes, as ordered by the ITA's chancellor? Or the Floater warships in our own systems, in which you conduct at least some trade? Or the Floater escorts guarding our trade convoys going to NBA members, such as the Skaven?

Your suggestion is unreasonable, but it is apparant you will stay by it.
We have long since barred Floater Warships from Asgard territory so such armed escorts will not be a problem. Our trade (minimal as it is) will be conducted through third party shippers such as the Minamatar. We will respect the right of other NBA members to govern their systems. We trust them to prevent a repeat of the Scharnhorst Incident in their own systems.

We have been forced to what is extreme measure by your nations negligence in it's naval forces and your disregard for the safety our people. We have no confidence, given your history of conduct, in your ability or desire to prevent serious incidents. There for in the interests of protecting our ships and people we are issuing this edict.
Image
User avatar
Stormbringer
King of Democracy
Posts: 22678
Joined: 2002-07-15 11:22pm

Post by Stormbringer »

To: All NBA members
From: Asgard Admiralty
Re: Patrols

Due to the incidents with the Floaters we have been forced to adopt "wolf pack" tactics for our patrols. This is stricly a defensive measure designed to prevent them being simply picked off as so nearly happened to AIS Scharnhorst.

Our light patrols will now consist of a cruiser with a pair of frigate escorts. This should be sufficient to deter unwarranted agression.
Image
User avatar
Thirdfain
The Player of Games
Posts: 6924
Joined: 2003-02-13 09:24pm
Location: Never underestimate the staggering drawing power of the Garden State.

Post by Thirdfain »

If Asgard elements would cooperate with our forces searching for the pirates, maybe incidents like this would not occur. It is hard to conduct operations near Kokand space, where the majority of sightings have placed the Kokander fleet, when the local authorites won't give our ships the time of day, much less information on where their patrols are running!

The situation as is benefits only the mutineers. If our ships could have some cooperation from the Asgard Navy in our search, then the mutineers could be safely captured, ending a threat to my people, and returning your prodigal officers to you.
Image

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite.
John Kenneth Galbraith (1908 - )
User avatar
Stormbringer
King of Democracy
Posts: 22678
Joined: 2002-07-15 11:22pm

Post by Stormbringer »

Thirdfain wrote:If Asgard elements would cooperate with our forces searching for the pirates, maybe incidents like this would not occur. It is hard to conduct operations near Kokand space, where the majority of sightings have placed the Kokander fleet, when the local authorites won't give our ships the time of day, much less information on where their patrols are running!

The situation as is benefits only the mutineers. If our ships could have some cooperation from the Asgard Navy in our search, then the mutineers could be safely captured, ending a threat to my people, and returning your prodigal officers to you.
Your position made that regrettably impossible. Had you been willing to work with me as did your PSR allies the problem would have been solved.
Instead you maintained your stance and therefor we had no choice but to deny you aid.

And it is your navy's disregard for proper behaviour (and your government's insistance in back said navy) that has left us with no other option than this edict. The protection of our people, in and out of uniform, is paramount. If that results in ruffled feathers with you, so be it.
Image
User avatar
Thirdfain
The Player of Games
Posts: 6924
Joined: 2003-02-13 09:24pm
Location: Never underestimate the staggering drawing power of the Garden State.

Post by Thirdfain »

What position? We agreed long ago to send any captured pirates directly to your justice system. Beyond that, we have no descriminatory policies toward the Asgard- your vessels are not treated any differentyl from anyone elses in ou territory, and our ship on the tradfe lanes guard your merchantmen as well as everyone elses.

What Floater policy is it that makes it impossible for you to cooperate with us in the hunt for the Kokand pirates?
Image

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite.
John Kenneth Galbraith (1908 - )
User avatar
Stormbringer
King of Democracy
Posts: 22678
Joined: 2002-07-15 11:22pm

Post by Stormbringer »

Thirdfain wrote:What position? We agreed long ago to send any captured pirates directly to your justice system. Beyond that, we have no descriminatory policies toward the Asgard- your vessels are not treated any differentyl from anyone elses in ou territory, and our ship on the tradfe lanes guard your merchantmen as well as everyone elses.

What Floater policy is it that makes it impossible for you to cooperate with us in the hunt for the Kokand pirates?
The continued insistance that they must be tried for piracy instead of simply mutiny. As well as the prolonged fight over trial rights (which was never entirely settled). That is what prevents mutal operations.

The latest incidents merely comfirm that we made the right choice.
Image
User avatar
Thirdfain
The Player of Games
Posts: 6924
Joined: 2003-02-13 09:24pm
Location: Never underestimate the staggering drawing power of the Garden State.

Post by Thirdfain »

We gave up our insistence that they be tried for piracy almost immediatly, after the OU government threatened us with war.

Our stance that the pirates be extradited has not changed. It became our stance early, and we have stuck by it, besides our ally's differing opinions on the subject.
Image

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite.
John Kenneth Galbraith (1908 - )
Companion Cube
Biozeminade!
Posts: 3874
Joined: 2003-02-02 04:29pm
Location: what did you doooooo щ(゚Д゚щ)

Post by Companion Cube »

The Yosemite Bear wrote:We do have a suggestion involving Asgard and Floater diplomats, a locked room, and no food, but that was deemed morally unjust.
The OA suggests that this might be an efficient way of dealing with more minor disputes.


(OOC: :wink: )
And when I'm sad, you're a clown
And if I get scared, you're always a clown
User avatar
Straha
Lord of the Spam
Posts: 8198
Joined: 2002-07-21 11:59pm
Location: NYC

Post by Straha »

Presentation Given to all attending members of the Ordino Talks



The current articles of the treaty draft are standing at this:

I. The treaty shall hereafter be known as the European Alliance, though the name can change if this is deemed necessary by a majority of the member nations.

II. The European Alliance is a soley military alliance, with an attack against a member nation being considered an attack against all member nations, wether the attacker is a pirate, or an offical nation.

III. Any pre-emptive violent actions taken by a member nation will not be condoned by the alliance as a whole. The one exception to this article is that an un-reasonable ultimatum against a member nation will be considered an attack against all member nations under article two, and condoned action could then be taken.

IV. There will be no leader of the European Alliance, all matters that would require a consensus, like the adoption or alteration of a new article, will be taken by majority vote. If a nation wishes to join, however, a two-thirds majority vote of member nations would be needed to allow admittance, as well as a two-thirds majority vote, minus the nation in suspect, would be taken to remove a nation from this treaty.

V. As of the initial signing of this treaty a joint commanded retailiatory strike force, hereafter refered to as J-Comm, would be created. Along with a chief commander elected by all the nations by a majority vote there would be a commander of an Army Branch, an Astral Navy Branch, and a Marine Branch chosen by the join commander, and ratified by the member nations. The forces under these commanders would be donated at times of peace, but in times of iminent conflict the the Joint Commander, with a majority vote of the member nations, could order a forced donation of at least ten percent of all nations military force. And in case of a Joint Commander's unwillingness or inability to call for this in times of need a two thirds majority vote of the member nations could also initialize this.


More articles can be added, and these articles are not yet final.
'After 9/11, it was "You're with us or your with the terrorists." Now its "You're with Straha or you support racism."' ' - The Romulan Republic

'You're a bully putting on an air of civility while saying that everything western and/or capitalistic must be bad, and a lot of other posters (loomer, Stas Bush, Gandalf) are also going along with it for their own personal reasons (Stas in particular is looking through rose colored glasses)' - Darth Yan
User avatar
Stormbringer
King of Democracy
Posts: 22678
Joined: 2002-07-15 11:22pm

Post by Stormbringer »

Thirdfain wrote:We gave up our insistence that they be tried for piracy almost immediatly, after the OU government threatened us with war.

Our stance that the pirates be extradited has not changed. It became our stance early, and we have stuck by it, besides our ally's differing opinions on the subject.
Which is fine. But given the reckless and frankly negligent manner in which your navy has operated your help remains distinctly unwelcome and the edict stays.
Image
User avatar
Stormbringer
King of Democracy
Posts: 22678
Joined: 2002-07-15 11:22pm

Post by Stormbringer »

{Black Forest Taskgroup}

Thanks to the recent fire storm touched off by the Floaters the fleet had a good idea where to find the enemy. Their carelessness had given the ships of Black Forest Taskgroup the opening they needed. Now they hurtled through hyperspace towards their target.

"We should come out right on top of them in a little over thirty seconds."

"Good. I want them dead."

* * *

Guided in by a frigate, lying still under full stealth like a hunter in the grass, the fleet pounced on the pair of Strike Cruisers.

No sooner had they reverted to real space than they opened fire on the hapless Floater ships. Massive weapons slammed into the armor of the ships and bored deep. The Floaters response was so far sporadic as the capital ships of Black Forest Taskgroup closed on their wounded prey.
Image
User avatar
Beowulf
The Patrician
Posts: 10621
Joined: 2002-07-04 01:18am
Location: 32ULV

Post by Beowulf »

Given the reckless nature that the Floaters have displayed. The OU government has decided that armed floater vessels will be barred from entering any OU system.
"preemptive killing of cops might not be such a bad idea from a personal saftey[sic] standpoint..." --Keevan Colton
"There's a word for bias you can't see: Yours." -- William Saletan
User avatar
Straha
Lord of the Spam
Posts: 8198
Joined: 2002-07-21 11:59pm
Location: NYC

Post by Straha »

Due to recent fears of continued attacks, all armed Floater, OU, and Asgard ships heading to Far Point will have a double marine contingent posted on them.
'After 9/11, it was "You're with us or your with the terrorists." Now its "You're with Straha or you support racism."' ' - The Romulan Republic

'You're a bully putting on an air of civility while saying that everything western and/or capitalistic must be bad, and a lot of other posters (loomer, Stas Bush, Gandalf) are also going along with it for their own personal reasons (Stas in particular is looking through rose colored glasses)' - Darth Yan
User avatar
Thirdfain
The Player of Games
Posts: 6924
Joined: 2003-02-13 09:24pm
Location: Never underestimate the staggering drawing power of the Garden State.

Post by Thirdfain »

The freecast call for help was heard by every vessel of the hunting flotilla.

Onboard the Uriel, the task force's commander grinned.

"Finally! Order the fleet to move in on their position. Our operations seem to have drawn the desired response."

The hunting task force, having been on duty since it was deployed months before, was itching for a fight. Two Dreadnoughts, individually incapable of taking on a Black Forest, were together more than enough for the enemy warship. Their escorting fleet, of six Attack Carriers with full fighter/bomber/lancer loads, and ten Strike Cruisers, lept towards the scene of the battle. The vessels were the URN's latest upgrades, and the capital units mounted reproduced Kokander FTL inhibitors.

The other twenty Strike Cruisers of the Task Force, spread out in a hunting net around the main fleet, also converged on the target. They would arrive seconds after the bulk of the squadron.


=ooc=
-this was the size of the fleet I have hunting the Black Forest squadron, posted back when your vessels first mutinied. -
Image

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite.
John Kenneth Galbraith (1908 - )
User avatar
Beowulf
The Patrician
Posts: 10621
Joined: 2002-07-04 01:18am
Location: 32ULV

Post by Beowulf »

Straha wrote:Due to recent fears of continued attacks, all armed Floater, OU, and Asgard ships heading to Far Point will have a double marine contingent posted on them.
No OU warship will ever carry armed soldiers from a possibly hostile nation.
"preemptive killing of cops might not be such a bad idea from a personal saftey[sic] standpoint..." --Keevan Colton
"There's a word for bias you can't see: Yours." -- William Saletan
User avatar
Stormbringer
King of Democracy
Posts: 22678
Joined: 2002-07-15 11:22pm

Post by Stormbringer »

Thirdfain wrote:=ooc=
-this was the size of the fleet I have hunting the Black Forest squadron, posted back when your vessels first mutinied. -
(OOC: except you dreadnaught aren't/shouldn't be the match for a Black Forest, not individually.)
Image
User avatar
Stormbringer
King of Democracy
Posts: 22678
Joined: 2002-07-15 11:22pm

Post by Stormbringer »

{Black Forest Taskgroup}

The Taskgroup demolished the two strike cruisers. They had jammed the strike cruisers transmissions, mostly. The Floaters wouldn't have exact data so now it was time to depart.

The Fleet hurtled themselves into the void, a bare handful of seconds after having devestated the Floater warships.m As systems powered down to standby they vanished nearly perfectly into the roiling turbulence of hyperspace.
Image
User avatar
Thirdfain
The Player of Games
Posts: 6924
Joined: 2003-02-13 09:24pm
Location: Never underestimate the staggering drawing power of the Garden State.

Post by Thirdfain »

(OOC: except you dreadnaught aren't/shouldn't be the match for a Black Forest, not individually.)

Exactly. That's why I have two of them, and six battleship sized Attack Carriers, with their own guns and large strike craft wings, allocated to hunting the Kokand seperatists, and the Black Fores

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


The data was exact enough- Two strike cruisers on patrol were easy to track, but not nearly as easy as a large fleet. With the Black Forest's location noted, sensor drones and recon platforms could see which direction she was moving.

The "Black Forest," powerful as she was, lacked the FTL speed of the lighter URN Dreadnoughts.

The fleet began it's chase, following the pirate craft through hyperspace.
Image

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite.
John Kenneth Galbraith (1908 - )
User avatar
Stormbringer
King of Democracy
Posts: 22678
Joined: 2002-07-15 11:22pm

Post by Stormbringer »

The Black Forest and her consorts ran, stleathly, through the twisting ether. In their wake they dumped decoys. The same Asgard-made decoys which had played merry havoc with the Floaters earlier. They wouldn't fool them forever but they would need to run them down to be sure, buying time.

The Floater fleets own actions proved he wasn't as informed as he thought.

"Pass the word to Werewolf and Circe. They are to stand ready."
Image
User avatar
Thirdfain
The Player of Games
Posts: 6924
Joined: 2003-02-13 09:24pm
Location: Never underestimate the staggering drawing power of the Garden State.

Post by Thirdfain »

The squadron spread out. Freecast messages crossed the ether-

the targets have been sighted.

It would be over an hour before the first reinforcements arrived, but the persuing fleet had firepower enough for anything which stood in it's way.

A squadron of Strike Cruisers took the lead, sniffing for possible ambushes or minefields. Their ECM fields and drones were deployed, turning the fleet into a cloud of static, uncomprehensible, with ships in one spot one second, and anotehr the next.

"Squadron 3, close with their command ship, and then hit the FTL inhibitors."
Image

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite.
John Kenneth Galbraith (1908 - )
Locked