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Posted: 2004-05-04 10:31pm
by Shark Bait
But viruses are affected by ph and salinity also they are more species specific than bacteria. They depend heavily on specific protein receptors and rna sequences. They would be less of a threat than bacteria, often times bacteria kill not by direct damage but by toxins created by their metabolic functions ie bochalism. However bacteria are much more difficult to transmit.
Posted: 2004-05-04 10:43pm
by Hotfoot
You know, technically your race is amphibious, not aquatic, since you can live on land and in the water.
So how would those of your people who lived on land deal with the lack of saltwater, unless somehow you managed to "evolve" that ability after the advent of civilization.

Posted: 2004-05-04 10:49pm
by InnocentBystander
A simple mutation of a bacterial strain would be enough to cause all sorts of problems
Posted: 2004-05-04 11:02pm
by Shark Bait
You know, technically your race is amphibious, not aquatic, since you can live on land and in the water.
So how would those of your people who lived on land deal with the lack of saltwater, unless somehow you managed to "evolve" that ability after the advent of civilization.
1. True they are amphibious, However when i said aquatic I ment it in the sense that seals, and sea lions are aquatic. I did not want to call them Amphibious and imply that they were akin to amphibians.
2. Salt water is still used, cities are built close to or in salt water and most homes pump salt water in. Also the gills are resistant to changes in salinity similar to salmon's due to the varing environments they inhabit.
Posted: 2004-05-04 11:07pm
by InnocentBystander
lazerus wrote:So I get my ass kicked, post it however you want, as I am dropping out for good.
STGOD just isn't my thing. Caio.
lazerus wrote:Jar'lath and his high-command flee through to the Stargate to Gamma and Omega site. The Stargate is then distroyed, along with all records of the two site's locations.
My my, look who is back!
I'm sure one of the mods will remove that post, of course.
Posted: 2004-05-04 11:15pm
by Hotfoot
Shark Bait wrote:You know, technically your race is amphibious, not aquatic, since you can live on land and in the water.
So how would those of your people who lived on land deal with the lack of saltwater, unless somehow you managed to "evolve" that ability after the advent of civilization.
1. True they are amphibious, However when i said aquatic I ment it in the sense that seals, and sea lions are aquatic. I did not want to call them Amphibious and imply that they were akin to amphibians.
They are able to breath water and air, no? Live as well in the water as on solid ground? The appearance of humanoid appendages suggests a long period of dry land evolution...I haven't seen any aquatic animal with anything remotely resembling human limbs, webbed or no. Even Dolphins and whales, which supposedly doubled back into the water, no longer have appendages suited for land-based living (sure, they have some vestigial bone structures, but those are hardly functional), and certainly no opposable thumbs.
2. Salt water is still used, cities are built close to or in salt water and most homes pump salt water in. Also the gills are resistant to changes in salinity similar to salmon's due to the varing environments they inhabit.
That doesn't make any sense. If they naturally evolved to be amphibians, they would not need to be naturally dependant on saltwater, and the concentrations in their bodies would be vastly reduced, unless these are some sort of saltwater muddy mudskippers.

Posted: 2004-05-04 11:23pm
by Marcao
Okay, now that I posted on the ground side (as the posts were in order) I am headed back to space. WEEEE!

Posted: 2004-05-04 11:29pm
by Darksider
Straha, how the hell do you come off calling the KSE "Sore losers turned bloodthirsty"?
Posted: 2004-05-04 11:30pm
by Rogue 9
The United Protectorates initiated the alliance, not the Arcane Empire.

Posted: 2004-05-04 11:34pm
by Darksider
Marcao wrote:Okay, now that I posted on the ground side (as the posts were in order) I am headed back to space. WEEEE!

Alas, while I would love to pulverize the Goa'uld fleet right now, it's eleven thirty, which means family guy is on.
Can we do this tomorrow?
(If you want to continue the fight, that's your choice, but please don't make two dozen posts about slaughtering my whole fleet while i'm sleeping)
Posted: 2004-05-04 11:36pm
by Hotfoot
CONSIDER YOUR FLEET SLAUGHTERED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111!!!!1!111one
j/k

Posted: 2004-05-04 11:41pm
by Darksider
Fuck that.
If Marco (Or anyone else who want's to take advantage of my need for sleep) tries to pull some sort of 10,000 post "Your Empire is Ow4ned by my 1337 forces and there's nothing you can do.!!!!" Type of crap, Alyrium or Thirdfain has control of my forces (If neither one of them is one, Straha or Stormbringer can do it).
(Please note, if they attack me, then make no other posts and wait for me to reply, this will not be nessecary. Only if they try to make three pages of text about me getting owned.)
Posted: 2004-05-04 11:45pm
by Hotfoot
Dude, relax....j/k means just kidding. It was a joke. Trust me when I say that nobody intends to rape your fleet while you sleep. It's already been paused once, there's no reason it can't be paused again.
And, as a note to all involved, it would probably be best to allow a second party access to your nation should you not be able to post in combat for whatever reason, for everyone involved here.
I call dibs on Marcao

Posted: 2004-05-04 11:52pm
by Shark Bait
unless these are some sort of saltwater muddy mudskippers.
Thats probably the closest to what the evolutionary line came from. Earth bound clasifications however dont entierly work they would more than likely be warm blooded and they have live birth and care for their young. but there are also critical diffrences so they are not mammels nor are they fish as we know them. The biggest problem with all clasifications and descriptions is that i'm trying to create an entierly diffren evolutionary line one that is capable of working with land dwelling creaturs as well as in the water. The end result is probably far fetched but still semi-plausable. Other than that it's largly vocabulary diffrences when deciding whether they are more aquatic, amphibious, or terrestrial.
lastly when I said that they are less like amphibians I ment in reffrence to the more permiable skin, water bound reproduction, and exothermic metabolism.
Posted: 2004-05-05 12:02am
by Rogue 9
Damn, Thirdfain. Reading over that post, I was about to call in airstrikes, but you called in tactical nukes first.

Posted: 2004-05-05 12:03am
by Hotfoot
Shark Bait wrote: unless these are some sort of saltwater muddy mudskippers.
Thats probably the closest to what the evolutionary line came from. Earth bound clasifications however dont entierly work they would more than likely be warm blooded and they have live birth and care for their young. but there are also critical diffrences so they are not mammels nor are they fish as we know them. The biggest problem with all clasifications and descriptions is that i'm trying to create an entierly diffren evolutionary line one that is capable of working with land dwelling creaturs as well as in the water. The end result is probably far fetched but still semi-plausable. Other than that it's largly vocabulary diffrences when deciding whether they are more aquatic, amphibious, or terrestrial.
Believe it or not, terrestrial classifications can be quite useful in this regard. After all, take in mind that life on this planet is incredibly diverse, and much of it when first discovered seemed as alien to the people observing it as many alien races would now. However, the problem here is that if it has evolved on land to the point where it is now an upright humanoid, numerous aquatic traits would have been lost, because they were no longer required for survival.
The more plausible solution would be that you never really evolved on land at all, at least not as an entire race. Perhaps a small species did, after the prerequisites for sentience we obtained, while the primary civilization grew underwater somehow, perhaps using telekinesis to make up for the lack of opposable thumbs. While the land-based species, on the other hand, developed into the humanoid creatures you have landed on Earth.
You can make it so one species was dominated by the other at some point in history, and your ships will likely be filled with water instead of air, which should make for some interesting encounters (especially if someone attempts to board one of your ships).
lastly when I said that they are less like amphibians I ment in reffrence to the more permiable skin, water bound reproduction, and exothermic metabolism.
I wasn't referring to nitty-gritty, but rather generalities.

Posted: 2004-05-05 12:07am
by Thirdfain
Damn, Thirdfain. Reading over that post, I was about to call in airstrikes, but you called in tactical nukes first.
Tactical? Who said shit about
tactical?
Those were the big boys, my friend. Marcao, if anything will buy us time for the Monacorans to land and reinforce the Ousters in Basra, that'll do it...
-edit- Additionally, it'll kill a LOT of Jaffa....
Posted: 2004-05-05 12:09am
by Marcao
Thirdfain wrote:
Damn, Thirdfain. Reading over that post, I was about to call in airstrikes, but you called in tactical nukes first.
Tactical? Who said shit about
tactical?
Those were the big boys, my friend. Marcao, if anything will buy us time for the Monacorans to land and reinforce the Ousters in Basra, that'll do it...
-edit- Additionally, it'll kill a LOT of Jaffa....
Holy Shit.
I LOVE it. *gleefully rubs his hands together and thinks about his next post*
note: you still have to deal with the troop transports I sent yer way.
Posted: 2004-05-05 12:12am
by Thirdfain
They won't last long with the Ouster fleet in orbit- and the main landing sites in New Basra will have better ack ack than the dragoons I sent to delay the Jaffa.
-edit- BTW, isn't this the first named character killed so far this STGOD? It's a shame, I sort of liked Frija...
Posted: 2004-05-05 12:18am
by Marcao
Thirdfain wrote:They won't last long with the Ouster fleet in orbit- and the main landing sites in New Basra will have better ack ack than the dragoons I sent to delay the Jaffa.
-edit- BTW, isn't this the first named character killed so far this STGOD? It's a shame, I sort of liked Frija...
alrightie, I am still going to write about it though. The forces are there, and declared and if you don't want to kill them I will do creatively.
yeah, she died well though so you gotta give her that.
Posted: 2004-05-05 12:20am
by Thirdfain
Yup yup. I'll write the aftermath....
Posted: 2004-05-05 12:31am
by Shark Bait
You can make it so one species was dominated by the other at some point in history, and your ships will likely be filled with water instead of air, which should make for some interesting encounters (especially if someone attempts to board one of your ships).
Possibly, also I was planning on having portions of the ships filled with water which could be drained if the need arises. Or at some point long ago the species were close enough that interbreeding somehow occurred producing the one race you now see before you.
on a side note have you studied marine siences because you obviously know what you are talking about.
Posted: 2004-05-05 12:34am
by Thirdfain
BTW, Hajr ground forces total 30,000 Army troops, all in light power-armor with vehicle support, aircraft, and artillery, and with some units of Assault power armor, and 10,000 Marine Dragoons, in light power-armor with VTOL gunships and transports (think Air Cavalry- Light infantry, which can be rapidly airlifted to a danger zone, digging in and using spotters to call in fire support.)
There are 10,000 Army troops in Basra and 2,000 marines. This takes into account the 1000 marines killed (well, some survivors, prolly- but not many) slowing down the Jaffa advance.
Posted: 2004-05-05 12:35am
by Alyrium Denryle
you know, we could use some fire support
Posted: 2004-05-05 12:36am
by Rogue 9
Alyrium Denryle wrote:you know, we could use some fire support
Uhhhh... Everyone seems to have missed it when I dedicated one of my only two battleships in theater to shielding your escorts... (Actually, it was the only one at the time.)