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Posted: 2004-09-08 06:55pm
by frigidmagi
How many missles are you launching and I'd like a rundown on the missles, are they uber missles? Crappy missles? What?
I believe most are aware of my missles level of effectiveness, has usually 1/3 of my slavo is made up of missles that are devoted to Eletronic warfare.
Posted: 2004-09-08 06:56pm
by Rogue 9
You don't want to make this personal.
Oh yes, I really think I do. You see, you are a nation. Much as you pretend to be otherwise, that's how it stands and I will treat you as one. Fine. We run with this, you kill a few destroyers, and then get smashed.
Posted: 2004-09-08 06:59pm
by Dahak
Rogue 9 wrote:You don't want to make this personal.
Oh yes, I really think I do. You see, you are a nation. Much as you pretend to be otherwise, that's how it stands and I will treat you as one. Fine. We run with this, you kill a few destroyers, and then get smashed.
Maybe this comes as a totally new concept to you, but
a) you don't always win.
b) other players may do things that make you look bad. That is no excuse for just hand-waving that away in your favour.
Posted: 2004-09-08 07:00pm
by frigidmagi
Strange you couldn't wait for me to declare war however. All well must be a com snafu.
Posted: 2004-09-08 07:01pm
by Bugsby
frigidmagi wrote:How many missles are you launching and I'd like a rundown on the missles, are they uber missles? Crappy missles? What?
I believe most are aware of my missles level of effectiveness, has usually 1/3 of my slavo is made up of missles that are devoted to Eletronic warfare.
According to my OOB, my missile frigates are escorts that are lightly armed and have 10 launchers each. The large number of tubes per small vessel makes these slightly weaker than normal. I have 40 missile frigates in system, so that is 400 coming at you. Seeing the small force you have, that's probably pretty high casualties on the first round, but you get to call damage.
Posted: 2004-09-08 07:02pm
by Bugsby
frigidmagi wrote:Strange you couldn't wait for me to declare war however. All well must be a com snafu.
I went when I was paid to go. Despite what Rogue thinks, I am just doing what I'm paid to do.
Posted: 2004-09-08 07:03pm
by Thirdfain
Frigid, you do have excellent missile armament, but the throw weight of a unit as small as yours, a tiny fraction of the size of the opposing fleet, will be shot down almost to the last projectile. You are drastically outnumbered, and will likely lose this without taking down more than a frigate or two.
Posted: 2004-09-08 07:05pm
by Rogue 9
Bugsby wrote:frigidmagi wrote:Strange you couldn't wait for me to declare war however. All well must be a com snafu.
I went when I was paid to go. Despite what Rogue thinks, I am just doing what I'm paid to do.
You're a nation. You're a nation that allows itself to be bought off, but still a nation. You can drop the pretenses now.
Posted: 2004-09-08 07:06pm
by Thirdfain
Oh, and to clarify, this attack is being ordered in response to the decleration of war by the Draconis Republic and the massed mobilization of the Nashtar fleet (There is historical precedent for this.). Your ships might not have been attacked, but you opened fire already, so...
Posted: 2004-09-08 07:07pm
by Rogue 9
Thirdfain wrote:Oh, and to clarify, this attack is being ordered in response to the decleration of war by the Draconis Republic and the massed mobilization of the Nashtar fleet (There is historical precedent for this.). Your ships might not have been attacked, but you opened fire already, so...
Oh, bullshit. You know he was going to tear into us anyway.
Posted: 2004-09-08 07:09pm
by Thirdfain
I was referring to the UP. Your nation's mobilization is a clear threat, and combined with the Draconis declaration, is being counted as a tacit declaration of war.
Posted: 2004-09-08 07:10pm
by frigidmagi
Correction Thridfain, Bugsby had already launched missles. This is a hostile act and returning fire falls under self defense. Has such, you have fired on nations that did not declare hostilies yet, via your proxies the Krell.
Posted: 2004-09-08 07:11pm
by Hotfoot
Thirdfain wrote:I was referring to the UP. Your nation's mobilization is a clear threat, and combined with the Draconis declaration, is being counted as a tacit declaration of war.
Um, Thirdfain? As I read Bugsby's post, the Krell opened fire first with missiles. That's hostile action, and it was in the direct vicinity of the UP ships. There's not really any reason that the UP wouldn't suspect those missiles wouldn't be coming their way.
Posted: 2004-09-08 07:12pm
by Rogue 9
So. You're going to murder my troops in their transports. You know, you could just as easily accomplish your objective of clearing all threats from the system by letting us go. Poof, no more threats in the system.
Posted: 2004-09-08 07:12pm
by Thirdfain
*shrug*
They were in close military support of a nation which has tacitly declared war on the Hajr. If they are close enough that the targets can't be picked out, it's a moot point.
Posted: 2004-09-08 07:12pm
by frigidmagi
Bugsby are all those missles heading towards me? Because honestly, I think 400 missles might just be enought to blow 7 ships into the void.
Posted: 2004-09-08 07:12pm
by Thirdfain
Rogue, maybe destroying enemy military forces are more important than taking a shit system like Ix'agal?
Posted: 2004-09-08 07:14pm
by frigidmagi
It's really to late to nickpit now Rogue. I'm just trying to cover so has many troopships can get away from this.
Posted: 2004-09-08 07:14pm
by Bugsby
Rogue 9 wrote:So. You're going to murder my troops in their transports. You know, you could just as easily accomplish your objective of clearing all threats from the system by letting us go. Poof, no more threats in the system.
You know what that means. Eliminate all threats that are in the system. Everything in the system goes bye-bye. Meaning you surrender or I kill you.
Posted: 2004-09-08 07:15pm
by Thirdfain
Um, Thirdfain? As I read Bugsby's post, the Krell opened fire first with missiles. That's hostile action, and it was in the direct vicinity of the UP ships. There's not really any reason that the UP wouldn't suspect those missiles wouldn't be coming their way.
No hostilities?
"This is pointless, despite the facts presented, the Hajr have already made up their minds. Tha vampire offers us nothing but his word. I know who's word I would trust when offered the choice between the Veithan and the Vampires. We will not stand by while the Hajr use this has an excuse to assualt an nation completly unrelated to the attack. We will defend our ally against this aggression."
Tacit.
Posted: 2004-09-08 07:15pm
by Rogue 9
Bugsby wrote:Rogue 9 wrote:So. You're going to murder my troops in their transports. You know, you could just as easily accomplish your objective of clearing all threats from the system by letting us go. Poof, no more threats in the system.
You know what that means. Eliminate all threats that are in the system. Everything in the system goes bye-bye. Meaning you surrender or I kill you.
Or we scatter and break for it. I didn't see any Interdictors in that OOB.
Posted: 2004-09-08 07:15pm
by Pablo Sanchez
Thirdfain wrote:Frigid, you do have excellent missile armament, but the throw weight of a unit as small as yours, a tiny fraction of the size of the opposing fleet, will be shot down almost to the last projectile. You are drastically outnumbered, and will likely lose this without taking down more than a frigate or two.
He's right. The Krell came in with a fully equipped line of battle whereas the heaviest vessel on the UPA side is a cruiser. This is a mismatch and the only option is to cut losses and run.
Posted: 2004-09-08 07:18pm
by frigidmagi
So the word of one man without power in the government is enough? Alright, but you're slipping really, I expect better from you, you're the guy who beat me black and blue without firing a shot earlier in this game remember?
Bugsby are all 400 missles heading my way? If so I'll post the destruction of those ships.
Posted: 2004-09-08 07:19pm
by Bugsby
They are spread evenly between you and Nashtar. So 200 each. You can survive the first wave.
Posted: 2004-09-08 07:20pm
by Hotfoot
Thirdfain wrote:Um, Thirdfain? As I read Bugsby's post, the Krell opened fire first with missiles. That's hostile action, and it was in the direct vicinity of the UP ships. There's not really any reason that the UP wouldn't suspect those missiles wouldn't be coming their way.
No hostilities?
You know, I have to wonder, what is being smoked across the hall from you to get that from what I wrote.
