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Posted: 2006-06-11 11:45pm
by Pick
Nothing can help them either, considering I update Dark Councilors exactly when I finish an update, usually without proper proofreading :P.

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Randomly, these are songs I associate with characters, while this post is short. I often play these songs when writing their segments :). Don't read too much into it, but I thought it'd be fun to share.

Verdigris - "The Land of Ice and Snow" Stratovarius
Hoquer - "O Brother Sleep" Diary of Dreams (voice included)
Nozoma - "Somewhere" Within Temptation
Kamina - "Misre Mani" Era
Zixer - "Cathar Rythm" Era
Selia - "Leaden Legacy" After Forever
Edge - "Come Night I Reign" Lake of Tears

Posted: 2006-06-12 05:44am
by Darth Raptor
So exactly how advanced is azzarn civilization technologically? If they're so magically advanced, then it follows that they must have an extensive knowledge of biology, chemistry and physics... and yet we don't get much of an idea as to the breadth of their applied science beyond magic. There doesn't seem to be any electricity, gunpowder or advanced machinery.

Maybe they're weak mathematically? Syvorian currency seems rather bizarre, and a mathematical weakness would explain engineering delinquencies with millenia under a very scientifically-minded people. As for guns, maybe magic already fills the role of the powerful ranged weapon and firearms are simply unnecessary. I'd also bet that civilization was far more advanced in ages past. I have nothing to back this up other than my assumption that allignment-defined traits are unnatural.

Bah, sorry about that. I was going to ask Umber if he ever reads fiction and if so what kind of stories he likes. ^_^

Posted: 2006-06-12 06:19am
by Ford Prefect
As for guns, maybe magic already fills the role of the powerful ranged weapon and firearms are simply unnecessary.
Doubtful in the extreme. Maybe magic could replace the need for artillery, but it doesn't seem common enough to replace guns.

Posted: 2006-06-12 07:11am
by Darth Raptor
Ford Prefect wrote:Doubtful in the extreme. Maybe magic could replace the need for artillery, but it doesn't seem common enough to replace guns.
Huh? It seems very common. Well, destructive magic does, at least. Remember the Llanlleian grunts? They were throwing around spells in between their melee attacks. Surely only real wizards and other magic specialists can use the big spells, but the fact that common foot soldiers also use it suggest that DCverse's magic has a more shallow learning curve than some other worlds (either that or they use it via enchanted artifacts).

Besides, in all that time surely someone thought of using an explosive to fire a projectile through a tube. :P

Posted: 2006-06-12 07:19am
by Ford Prefect
Darth Raptor wrote: Huh? It seems very common. Well, destructive magic does, at least. Remember the Llanlleian grunts? They were throwing around spells in between their melee attacks. Surely only real wizards and other magic specialists can use the big spells, but the fact that common foot soldiers also use it suggest that DCverse's magic has a more shallow learning curve than some other worlds (either that or they use it via enchanted artifacts).
What?

Posted: 2006-06-12 09:36am
by Darth Raptor
Ford Prefect wrote:What?
The training facility in Construct.

Posted: 2006-06-12 01:51pm
by Pick
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Posted: 2006-06-12 03:12pm
by Alan Bolte
I kinda saw that coming from Verdigris,

Posted: 2006-06-12 04:22pm
by Kuja
*throws head back and laughs* Ah yes, I should have anticipated that from Ms. Dire Hedgehog. :lol: Decaf much, Verdigris? :P

Posted: 2006-06-12 09:10pm
by Darth Raptor
How oddly appealing that a world embroiled in savage and seemingly endless warfare can be so perfect and heavenly otherwise. Speaking of which, does your planet have a name yet? I don't like calling it "DCverse" because it makes me think of retarded crap like Superman.

Posted: 2006-06-12 11:22pm
by Pick
It didn't until... now!

Krym. That sound like anything else? Not that I know of, ... :|

Posted: 2006-06-12 11:26pm
by Noble Ire
Pick wrote:It didn't until... now!

Krym. That sound like anything else? Not that I know of, ... :|
Sounds good to me.
Is the rest of the DC world, beyond the landmass occupied by Llanellia and Syvoria, and the mountains that cap them to the North, ocean? Have any azzarn attempted to cross the waters seen in your earlier map?

Posted: 2006-06-12 11:47pm
by Duckie
Sounds like Krynn to me. Which I find hillarious, since Krynn pre-4th age was the most 4-color Good vs. Evil clear-cut morality-lines-drawn fantasy ever. :lol:

Posted: 2006-06-13 12:01am
by Pick
Never heard of it, but these things are good to know with naming (which is hard. And sucks.)

Disdazen.

Posted: 2006-06-13 12:16am
by Duckie
Pick wrote:Never heard of it, but these things are good to know with naming (which is hard. And sucks.)

How about Mielakora?
Too many syllables. Names should be monosyllabic or bisyllabic, often the latter. Look at actual cultures that have names for important things like where they are. Like the two classical languages
Latin: Latium/Italia
Greece: Hellas

I like Krym more. Honestly it's not noticable to anyone except someone who reads Dragonlance and even then I took it as a concious obscure reference.

Posted: 2006-06-13 01:03am
by Darth Raptor
If the Lazaari are the most uber race in the world, how about Lazaar?

Posted: 2006-06-13 01:09am
by Pick
Except the azzarn don't recognize that Lazaari exist, that is, if you said the word to any of them it would be meaningless :wink:.

Posted: 2006-06-13 01:10am
by Duckie
Pick wrote:Except the azzarn don't recognize that Lazaari exist, that is, if you said the word to any of them it would be meaningless :wink:.
But they got many words from the Zaa, who do.

So what would the Zaa know their world as, really?

And I still like Krym. It is short, simple, and sounds like a real place. (Probably because The Krim is another name for Crimea/Southern Ukraine, although I think it is archaeic and refers to a slightly different, more westerly spot).

Posted: 2006-06-13 01:11am
by Pick
Actually, I've settled on Kao, since it's short and doesn't mean anything that I'm aware of :P.

Posted: 2006-06-13 01:13am
by Duckie
Pick wrote:Actually, I've settled on Kao, since it's short and doesn't mean anything that I'm aware of :P.
Well it does refer to a certain bovine food animal. :P

Sounds nice. I get sort of easter vibes from it, since AO=OW is a sort of chinese type of sound. Us dirty anglophones would have said Kow or maybe even used a C given the sound.

Posted: 2006-06-13 01:14am
by Darth Raptor
What's the adjective? Kaoan? Kaoese?

Posted: 2006-06-13 01:15am
by Duckie
Darth Raptor wrote:What's the adjective? Kaoan? Kaoese?
Kaotic. :wink:

Posted: 2006-06-13 01:47am
by Pick
Kaoen. :P

And you need to pronounce it like a bloody Oregonian (sounds like it rhymes with "k-yow") Though suddenly I'm wondering if the other names are being perceived as I do... :shock:.

Posted: 2006-06-13 03:14am
by Duckie
Pick wrote:Kaoen. :P

And you need to pronounce it like a bloody Oregonian (sounds like it rhymes with "k-yow") Though suddenly I'm wondering if the other names are being perceived as I do... :shock:.
Well I'm willing to bet Fvier is wrong in my head: Is it F-Veer? Fiver? Five-Ee-Er?

And it is Hai-Rahl and Hokker for Hyral and Hoquer, right?

Caia would be K+eye-ah and not Kay-ah, right?

At this rate you'll have to make a list... :wink:

Posted: 2006-06-13 06:41pm
by Psycho Smiley
Pick wrote:Though suddenly I'm wondering if the other names are being perceived as I do... :shock:.
Just do what Robert Jordan did. Make a recording of yourself pronouncing all the names/words you created, and then refuse to speak with anyone who mispronounces them. :razz: