Surlethe wrote:Vicious wrote:Sounds like the block of upgrades I outlined for Arclight, aside from the stealth features. Captain Bayh, with your permission I'd like to give my own techs your list of upgrades and see what they can do for Arclight.
Any time I can help you, Captain Wash, it's my pleasure. I'm also developing plans for a complete overhaul of the
Irascible, focusing on lengthening and broadening the hull as well as integrating advanced stealth features; if you're interested, I'd love extra input.
The only thing I'd mention is that rather than having 2x Sea-RAMs and 2x Phalanx, why not 4x Sea-RAMs?
[I tend to view of equipment diversity in a good light; the Phalanx, as far as I know, does possess a strength the SeaRAM doesn't: it fires more ammunition at the target, though at shorter range.] Perhaps I should simply install two more SeaRAMs on my baby; there's plenty of room on the bow.
The main issues with adding extra armament is that you don't want to impede the use of your other weapons. From looking at photos of the Ticos, it seems that the area on for fore and aft is to give the 5-inch guns a sufficient range of motion to fire on any possible targets. If you're going to alter the hull (which is a rather more intensive modification than simply adding more weapons mounts), I'd say extend the foc's'l and the stern of the ship by a few meters each, to give you room to add the extra Sea-RAMs and any other goodies.
In regards to variety, if you still want the Phalanx-style CIWS, I'd go with a 30mm rather than a 20mm cannon. The 20mm cannon has range and penetration issues which the 30mm solves to some extent, making it more capable of shooting down a target. I do agree that a varied weapon system can be beneficial, but I was thinking purely of the American-made R2s, which aren't spectacularly effective because of their smaller ammunition.
@Captain Fly: you want to convert a boomer into a mobile underwater helipad? Having visions of SPECTRE, eh? If you really want stick a helo in there, you'll need something with folding rotots, and probably an inline cockpit like the Apache, or possibly a Commanche, which would have the added benefit of being stealthy, making a good pop-up scout. Still, it'd require some
major modifications. Gutting the entire missile bay, adding an elevator (and all the added hydraulics for
that), completely changing the entire dorsal structure of the sub to accomodate the lift and serve as a launch pad, room for the ammo, fuel and spare parts you'll need, as well as room for the techs and crew for the helo. Then you have to cram the helo in there as well! Retrieval would be one hell of a bitch in anything but absolutely calm seas as well.
I'll see if I can dig up some internal specs on the
Typhoon-class and a Commanche and see if it's even remotely possible.
EDIT: Ok, did some digging, and mind you these numbers are all eye-balled so they're rough estimates at best. Eyeballing the missile bay puts it at about 153ft. More than enough room for a Commanche* in the length department (43ft long). Width-wise, I eyeball the bays at a total of 80.5ft. That's actually a lot larger than I was anticipating. You might have room to pull this off. A Commanche's rotor diameter is 39ft. The sticking point, though is in the height. The Commanche is 11ft high, while the missile bay appears to only be ~14ft high (again, a rough eye-balled estimate from the simplified diagram I managed to find). That means, if my eyeballing isn't too off, that there's plenty of room width and length wise, but that it'll barely fit height-wise. You still need to fit a lift, but I suppose the hydraulics could be side-mounted rather than bottom-mounted to get it out of the hull. While you could spin the rotor up inside, taking off in an enclosed space aboard a tube half-submerged in the water would be dangerous in the extreme.
*I'm using the Commanche because it would've been ideal for this kind of thing. If you want a different helo, then you'll have to plug it's specs in and see where you come out.
@Batman: [:P Ok, insta-retcon:
Arclight carries a SH-60B and an SH-60F and the -F is perched over
Konavolov. *handwaves all posts to the contrary*]
EDIT: Fixed a typo; I labled MRDOD's boat as
Gnisnal, rather than the
Konavolov.