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Posted: **2005-05-14 04:34pm**

Some screencaps from the two new TV spots.

That town is definitely on Alderaan:

Droid Gunship fly-by:

Posted: **2005-05-14 05:01pm**

I got the DL clip, but I can't get visual, only audio. Strange.

Posted: **2005-05-14 07:18pm**

You know, seeing Alderaan, cities, mountains, etc. it's going to actually drive home it's destruction so much more in ANH.

Posted: **2005-05-14 07:22pm**

Wow, they actually stayed with the designs of Alderaan's cities from the Illustrated Universe. Looks great.

Posted: **2005-05-14 11:27pm**

El Moose Monstero wrote: I dunno, I thought it could have done with less of the 'i'll put on a big scary voice to show that I'm evil'. A softer confident tone might have been better, this one just sounds like he's feeling threatened and is responding with tough talk.

I don't think he sounded threatened at all. He's a Sith, and he draws his power from anger. The seemingly careless banter he engages with before he says that line was great.

Posted: **2005-05-15 04:02am**

For those who've read the book or script I've been wondering if their is any point in Ep3 where the Palpatine makes it known that Anakin is to be exempt from the consequences of the Order 66 command? Afterall Anakin was up till that point just another Jedi as well and unless given specific widespread orders they would turn on him as well.

Posted: **2005-05-15 04:21am**

Icehawk wrote:For those who've read the book or script I've been wondering if their is any point in Ep3 where the Palpatine makes it known that Anakin is to be exempt from the consequences of the Order 66 command? Afterall Anakin was up till that point just another Jedi as well and unless given specific widespread orders they would turn on him as well.

I was going to point this out a few days ago! According to the novelization, Order 66 was hard wired into the clones since they began churning them out.

Posted: **2005-05-15 09:55am**

Lord Poe wrote: I was going to point this out a few days ago! According to the novelization, Order 66 was hard wired into the clones since they began churning them out.

Anakin was Palpatine's desired apprentice from the start. Presumably, Order 66 exempted him specifically. But where in the novelization does it say it was hard-wired?

This is what the RotS: VD has to say:

p.44 wrote:Clonetroopers obey the commands of their Jedi generals, but ultimately they answer to Republic Chancellor and Commander-in-Chief, Palpatine. The mission to lay waste to the Jedi Temple is therefore obeyed immediately, especially as they are still being led by a Jedi Knight.

As far as I can remember, it seems to me that the ultimate loyalty of the Grand Army of the Republic always lay with Palpatine- and their extreme discipline combined with their engineering/upbringing led to very little compunctions in killing the Jedi.

Posted: **2005-05-15 12:53pm**

The wild thing is that they answer to his wishes in the visage of Lord Darth Sidious.

Posted: **2005-05-16 05:08am**

Illuminatus Primus wrote:The wild thing is that they answer to his wishes in the visage of Lord Darth Sidious.

Why's that strange? As far as the clones know his messed up face is a result of the "Jedi assasination attempt".

Posted: **2005-05-16 05:42am**

Lucas was interviewed at Cannes and gave some pretty good remarks on current fandom:

I see it all as one movie, so I don't pay much attention to people who prefer one chapter or another chapter. But we've discovered that we have two fan bases. One is over 25 and one is under 25. The over 25 fan base is loyal to the first three films and they are actually in their 30's and 40's now, so that they're in control of the media, they're in control of the web, they're in control of everything basically. The films, which those people don't like, which are the first two, actually are fanatically bored by the other two. And if you get on the web and you listen to these conversations, they are always at each other's throats and the devotion for each group is pretty equal.

Posted: **2005-05-16 01:26pm**

The second picture VT-16 posted of Alderaan shows a Cor Corvette in an atmosphere and capable of making planetary landings. It is not to suprising considering some of the ships previously shown in the PT movies.

Posted: **2005-05-16 01:39pm**

Thanks to the end of ROTJ SE, we´ve seen vessels bigger than that landing/docking in an atmosphere in the OT-era (refr. the huge airbus docked on Coruscant).

Posted: **2005-05-16 02:03pm**

Manus Celer Dei wrote:
Illuminatus Primus wrote:The wild thing is that they answer to his wishes in the visage of Lord Darth Sidious.
Why's that strange? As far as the clones know his messed up face is a result of the "Jedi assasination attempt".

No, I mean the identity. They say "yes, Lord Sidious" - and Order 66 is before Palpatine announces the Jedi assassination attempt to the galaxy.

Posted: **2005-05-16 02:08pm**

I guess they knew who their real master was all along but were programmed not to reveal his identity.

Posted: **2005-05-16 07:06pm**

VT-16 wrote:I guess they knew who their real master was all along but were programmed not to reveal his identity.

Not true. In Labyrinth of Evil, the clone recon team was surprised at all hell to find out who Sidious truly was. Pity they weren't too smart and forgot to send a nice burst transmission when he killed them...

Posted: **2005-05-16 08:45pm**

Xenophobe3691 wrote:
VT-16 wrote:I guess they knew who their real master was all along but were programmed not to reveal his identity.
Not true. In Labyrinth of Evil, the clone recon team was surprised at all hell to find out who Sidious truly was. Pity they weren't too smart and forgot to send a nice burst transmission when he killed them...

I thought we only see the POV of the non-clone Intelligece Officer in that scene.

Posted: **2005-05-16 08:49pm**

The Original Nex wrote:
Xenophobe3691 wrote:
VT-16 wrote:I guess they knew who their real master was all along but were programmed not to reveal his identity.
Not true. In Labyrinth of Evil, the clone recon team was surprised at all hell to find out who Sidious truly was. Pity they weren't too smart and forgot to send a nice burst transmission when he killed them...
I thought we only see the POV of the non-clone Intelligece Officer in that scene.

Yeah, by that point, all of the ARCs have been liquified by Geonosian guards and their sonic blasters. It does seem odd Palpatine would have them killed though, perhaps he didnt want to risk spreading the activation of the Clone's sleeper programing early.

Posted: **2005-05-17 09:53pm**

Whelp, the anti-Wars crowd is already bitching about the space battles. "Didn't look like 200 GT weapons to me!!11" and "they fought at spitting distances, not light minutes away".

Posted: **2005-05-17 10:44pm**

apocolypse wrote:Whelp, the anti-Wars crowd is already bitching about the space battles. "Didn't look like 200 GT weapons to me!!11" and "they fought at spitting distances, not light minutes away".

You've heard this stupid shit before. Them posting the same dumbass arguments on yet another movie is nothing new.

Posted: **2005-05-17 11:00pm**

That screencap *is* Alderan.

Sidious deforms himself when Mace confronts him. He uses the lighting a lot in ROTS - especially when Mace is attacking him.

The battles are AWESOME. And yes, they're nosebleeder, and that's what makes them so great. There's battles inside the ships at the same time, look at the windows and you're actually seeing TWO battles going on.

I loved the 10-15 second cuts of everywhere when Order 66 is given.

R2D2 shines in this one. He has some intense battle scenes, and he's the comedy relief without being too corny because C3PO isn't around him as much.

Posted: **2005-05-18 01:03am**

Vympel wrote:
apocolypse wrote:Whelp, the anti-Wars crowd is already bitching about the space battles. "Didn't look like 200 GT weapons to me!!11" and "they fought at spitting distances, not light minutes away".
You've heard this stupid shit before. Them posting the same dumbass arguments on yet another movie is nothing new.

I know, and I knew it was coming too. But fuck, can't the movie even be out for a couple of days before the incessant naysaying and bitching begins?

Posted: **2005-05-18 01:08am**

apocolypse wrote:Whelp, the anti-Wars crowd is already bitching about the space battles. "Didn't look like 200 GT weapons to me!!11" and "they fought at spitting distances, not light minutes away".

Yes, because these stupid fucks can't seem to grasp the fact that when fighting insurgents planning on invading the planet you don't fight the battle 10 LIGHT MINUTES FROM THE FUCKING PLANET!!

They can't grasp the fact that YOU DON'T RAIN DOWN 200 GT BLASTS ON A PLANET YOU INTEND TO INVADE AND OCCUPY!

There little cocksuckers are getting more idiotic every fucking year.

Posted: **2005-05-18 01:27am**

Actually the Separatists were trying to escape Coruscant, and the Republic was trying to stop them. Needless to say, that would necessitate a close quarters engagement of hundreds of kms at most (RotS novelization). Redcued firepower of any sort isn't required in any event.

Who would be stupid enough to think the Separatists would want to slag Coruscant?

Or is the planet you're talking about Utapau, the occupied by Grievous planet that Obi-Wan's fleet (you see two Venators in the sky at one point) invades to liberate? That's an even more stupid criticism in that context

Posted: **2005-05-18 03:53am**

SFX Review wrote:The birth of Vader (though he’s named long before the physical transformation - a nice surprise) is done with a loving eye aware of the iconicism. It truly fetishises the costume, as you see Anakin’s contorted face, burned to a toasty crisp and clad in Vader’s black armour, have the mask lowered down on him, before cutting to a POV shot showing us its cruel inner workings.

What's happening to me? My skeptisism about this film just shriveled up and died in some dark corner of my psyche...

Argh. I can't wait! I should have booked the midnight viewing! Argh!

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