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I think so though with Darksider's posting habits it's kind of hard to tell.Straha wrote:About a month ago Darksider and the Asgard were sealing a mutual defense alliance, haven't checked again but I assumed it went through.Thirdfain wrote:Errr, I'm the wrong guy to ask. Are you in a military alliance with them?
Well, Hotfoot, Marcao, and me still are the Veithan AccordThirdfain wrote:Oops, missed the Vampire holdings in the Arcane Empire, and the Draconis joining the UPA officially.
Would all the Alliances please tell me their official names?
Um... I could have sworn that the 2/3 limit was for people who got taken out of the game. Forcing new players to start off with a smaller force just handicaps them further.Bugsby wrote:The general rule is that powers entering this late in the game come in at 2/3 that strength. However, since you played the last STGOD in this universe, you are allowed a full-size nation. Although if you want to handicap yourself (the OOB suggests you might), 2/3 is a good number to go down to.
Actually I would think that, in order for the Minmatar to have survived this long unnoticed, he would have had to have been smaller than the maximum, right? What I would think would be best is for them to be ~2/3rds size, but extraordinarilly wealthy. That way we have an excuse for them not having been in so long, but they get to start off without a bad handicap, if any.Bugsby wrote:Nice to see an OOB, Spyder. Ground rules are as follows: (edit OOB accordingly)
The starting conditions are:
12 main worlds max.
10 colonies max.
25 capital-size ships max.
75 cruisers max.
500 escorts max.
The general rule is that powers entering this late in the game come in at 2/3 that strength. However, since you played the last STGOD in this universe, you are allowed a full-size nation. Although if you want to handicap yourself (the OOB suggests you might), 2/3 is a good number to go down to.
It seems to me that it's not so much that they haven't been noticed, so much as rather isolationist, and with a big enough fleet to back up the isolationism. It's not as if they haven't been on the map for the entire game.Straha wrote:Actually I would think that, in order for the Minmatar to have survived this long unnoticed, he would have had to have been smaller than the maximum, right? What I would think would be best is for them to be ~2/3rds size, but extraordinarilly wealthy. That way we have an excuse for them not having been in so long, but they get to start off without a bad handicap, if any.
Actually, they've been played as somewhat like the Swizterland in space they were. Thirdfain and I used them as a neutral nation for our trading and I've referred to them a couple times.Beowulf wrote:It seems to me that it's not so much that they haven't been noticed, so much as rather isolationist, and with a big enough fleet to back up the isolationism. It's not as if they haven't been on the map for the entire game.
This would explain why they haven't been active until recently, while also explaining why they haven't been absorbed by another empire.
I actually took a look at the other OOBs and determined stats based on social degredation and the dealings with pirates that a quick search revealed that the Minmatar had...apparently.Bugsby wrote:Nice to see an OOB, Spyder. Ground rules are as follows: (edit OOB accordingly)[/edit]
Declared 5.The starting conditions are:
12 main worlds max.
Didn't mention any colonies, but if anyone wants to assume there's a few dotted around when they attack then that's ok with me.10 colonies max.
Declared 19, 4 of which are crap.25 capital-size ships max.
Declared 50.75 cruisers max.
Declared 200.500 escorts max.
Already taken care of. I edited the OOB anyway and put the numbers next to the ship classes do you don't have to read the whole paragraph when you're just looking for a ship count.The general rule is that powers entering this late in the game come in at 2/3 that strength. However, since you played the last STGOD in this universe, you are allowed a full-size nation. Although if you want to handicap yourself (the OOB suggests you might), 2/3 is a good number to go down to.
Mod is Pablo. Co-mod is Marcao.
Actually, I don't really mind. It just means that I'm going to have make things...interesting.Stormbringer wrote:Actually, they've been played as somewhat like the Swizterland in space they were. Thirdfain and I used them as a neutral nation for our trading and I've referred to them a couple times.
Been again, I don't wish to force too much onto Spyder.
Ah! These reports, you must have picked them up using your extensive known space intelligence apparatus, in a detailed sting operation designed to exploit one of my intelligence operation's many weaknesses!but we have unconfirmed reports of Hajr corporations used as fronts for intelligence gathering,
Alyrium, I hate to break it to you, but he is going on vacation. Of course he's going to go through customs, he wouldn't be a very convincing vacationer if he wasn't.Alyrium Denryle wrote:Is it just me, or is Beowulf going to try one of his half-assed ops again?
BTW, you WILL be going through customs.
Fuck, no one even knows the Hajr owns corporations! Unless you are willing to spend the time to mount intel ops, don't metagame like this.but we have unconfirmed reports of Hajr corporations used as fronts for intelligence gathering,
Yeah, you said that already, but one thing at a time. I wanted to make that clear before he busted a real intel op for himself.Thirdfain wrote:Fuck, no one even knows the Hajr owns corporations! Unless you are willing to spend the time to mount intel ops, don't metagame like this.but we have unconfirmed reports of Hajr corporations used as fronts for intelligence gathering,
I came close to finding out some stuff on BIC, but I never told anyone what I did find. The deal with BIC is that they are a huge corporation centered in Nashtar space with a few of its big dogs being either in ouster pay or gene-modded ousters or something like that. (This from Thirdfain in PMs). There is no way to discover this without extensive intelligence ops. You really do have nothing here.Thirdfain wrote:Fuck, no one even knows the Hajr owns corporations! Unless you are willing to spend the time to mount intel ops, don't metagame like this.but we have unconfirmed reports of Hajr corporations used as fronts for intelligence gathering,
Or if there was effort, I missed it.They are unconfirmed We arent sure. Every nation is assumed to have some kind of spy network, it would make sense that we would have some inkling as to the nature of Hajr intel. And speaking to a nation that is less then friendly with the Harj, well... opertion security isnt exactly a danger. And yes, that message was sent to the Asgard.Thirdfain wrote:Fuck, no one even knows the Hajr owns corporations! Unless you are willing to spend the time to mount intel ops, don't metagame like this.but we have unconfirmed reports of Hajr corporations used as fronts for intelligence gathering,
How in the hell did you come to that conclusion? Operational security is always a danger.Alyrium Denryle wrote:And speaking to a nation that is less then friendly with the Harj, well... opertion security isnt exactly a danger.
True. But as they're not going to send medical aid anyway, being vampires, you didn't need to say it and piss them off.and the vamps... Guys.. they are vampires, come on now... No sane nation would allow vampires anywhere near their population.