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Posted: 2004-09-12 08:13pm
by Alyrium Denryle
Um... just like a Lance Railgun will vape a kamakazi fighter, so will a 128 Megaton beam laser.

Posted: 2004-09-12 08:14pm
by Bugsby
I know. Ever fighter that got hit was a one-hit-kill. But I have 15,000 of these little buggers, and you've killed about 5,000 of them so far.

Posted: 2004-09-12 08:15pm
by SirNitram
And now for my token political offer to try and cut down on the widespread destruction. Won't be taken, but one has to try.

Posted: 2004-09-12 08:16pm
by Alyrium Denryle
Bugsby wrote:I know. Ever fighter that got hit was a one-hit-kill. But I have 15,000 of these little buggers, and you've killed about 5,000 of them so far.
Yeah, but then the beam laser goes through them, as it is a continuous beam, and hits the ships shields, without wasting a whole lot of energy.

What is good for the goose is good for the gander

Posted: 2004-09-12 08:18pm
by Thirdfain
Regardless, you are using direct fire arrmament at long range. Your shooting will be quite poor, and I not YOU haven't taken any casualties.

Posted: 2004-09-12 08:18pm
by Rogue 9
SirNitram wrote:And now for my token political offer to try and cut down on the widespread destruction. Won't be taken, but one has to try.
No shit. My counter-offer: The Unification can get the hell out of our territory and can drop this transparent excuse for their unjust and unprovoked war in defense of the Ouster genocide against the White Suns. I'm not even going to answer that.

Edit: In addition, such an offer will strongly suggest to us that you're in this to get our territory and end the existence of our nation. As such, you have just caused us to never accept any surrender terms from you for fear of you using our surrender to effect conquest.

Posted: 2004-09-12 08:19pm
by Bugsby
The amount of energy it takes to vape a fighter is significant, no matter how strong. But I will take that into consideration, and in my next post I will call heavier damage on the Lances. They aren't in range yet, so it looks like you will avoid my cruiser strikes. Good job! :D

That being said, I cant wait to hear what you have lost so far.

Posted: 2004-09-12 08:19pm
by Alyrium Denryle
I am just saying that he is stating that the wrong ships are being distressed.... that is all.

Posted: 2004-09-12 08:19pm
by Hotfoot
Bugsby wrote:
Alyrium Denryle wrote:Yo Bugsby, did you not understand the point of my targeting your Lnces and Titals for the last few rounds? Last time I checked, your Lances were relativly lightly armored and shielded, and a fighter screen wont protect them against Laser fire.
That's true, mostly. Although you don't really understand what I'm doing with the fighters. They are litterally a screen, tightly packed and circling around the Lances to take hits for them. This also makes the Lance signature harder to lock onto. And yes, my fighters can manage that, seeing as how they are robot drones with this particular move specially designed and perfected.
Um, I'm not too terribly sure I like the concept behind this move. Your fighters are weak against fighter-scale weaponry. Any escort, cruiser, or capital scale shots that hit them would tear through with nearly no resistance whatsoever. Also, predicting where enemy direct-fire shots are coming in seems a little...well, off to me. As for the signal bit, I think it may be marginally effective, but remember, the more ships in the general area, the more of a signal there would be. The fighters don't have anywhere near the sensor footprint of a cruiser (unless, perhaps, they all linked up to for a voltron-esque shield) and thus all one would have to do is aim for the largest signature in the group, which would be the cruiser.

Unless all of your fighters have insanely good EW suites, in which case they're even more pathetic in actual combat than previously described. :P

Posted: 2004-09-12 08:20pm
by Thirdfain
How about this? We divvy up your nation like Victorian China, and Elanie gets President Major as the new court jester in the soon-to-be-announced Realm of the Annophelial Queen?

Posted: 2004-09-12 08:20pm
by SirNitram
Rogue 9 wrote:
SirNitram wrote:And now for my token political offer to try and cut down on the widespread destruction. Won't be taken, but one has to try.
No shit. My counter-offer: The Unification can get the hell out of our territory and can drop this transparent excuse for their unjust and unprovoked war in defense of the Ouster genocide against the White Suns. I'm not even going to answer that.
The Unification started the war? I seem to remember the first declarations of war being from the Alliance. Seems to me it's obvious who escalated this. :D

Posted: 2004-09-12 08:23pm
by Rogue 9
SirNitram wrote:
Rogue 9 wrote:
SirNitram wrote:And now for my token political offer to try and cut down on the widespread destruction. Won't be taken, but one has to try.
No shit. My counter-offer: The Unification can get the hell out of our territory and can drop this transparent excuse for their unjust and unprovoked war in defense of the Ouster genocide against the White Suns. I'm not even going to answer that.
The Unification started the war? I seem to remember the first declarations of war being from the Alliance. Seems to me it's obvious who escalated this. :D
We declared war on the Ousters, not the Unification, for the reason of the Ousters attempting genocide against an Alliance member. So yes, it is obvious. The Unification jumped in with a casus belli that cannot be true because they're vulturing opportunists. So the Unification escalated this war. Now shove it up your ass.

Posted: 2004-09-12 08:24pm
by Bugsby
Oh, come now. Everyone escalated. It started out as 1 on 1, then the Alliance got into it, then the Unification. Nothing is going up anyone's ass.

Posted: 2004-09-12 08:24pm
by Thirdfain
Depends how you look at it. I declared war on the White Suns for their little act of genocide. You guys escalated by moving to their defense.

Posted: 2004-09-12 08:24pm
by frigidmagi
That's is moronic Nitram, the declarations were at the Hajr, not the Unification. The Unification invaded the Alliance, not the other way around.

You want to fight and use transpart excuses, that is your right, but leave the bullshit in the IC thread please.

Posted: 2004-09-12 08:27pm
by Straha
frigidmagi wrote:That's is moronic Nitram, the declarations were at the Hajr, not the Unification. The Unification invaded the Alliance, not the other way around.
Wrong, we moved to help the Ousters after you declared war on by passing through my teritory. We're merely counter-invading.

Posted: 2004-09-12 08:28pm
by SirNitram
Rogue 9 wrote:
SirNitram wrote:
Rogue 9 wrote: No shit. My counter-offer: The Unification can get the hell out of our territory and can drop this transparent excuse for their unjust and unprovoked war in defense of the Ouster genocide against the White Suns. I'm not even going to answer that.
The Unification started the war? I seem to remember the first declarations of war being from the Alliance. Seems to me it's obvious who escalated this. :D
We declared war on the Ousters, not the Unification, for the reason of the Ousters attempting genocide against an Alliance member. So yes, it is obvious. The Unification jumped in with a casus belli that cannot be true because they're vulturing opportunists. So the Unification escalated this war. Now shove it up your ass.
Oh, grow up and stop acting like a spoiled child. You attacked someone with diplomatic ties to other groups en masse and didn't think there'd be consequences? Don't be a retard.

Posted: 2004-09-12 08:28pm
by Thirdfain
The Hajr is a de facto member of the Unification. Of course, it's not on paper as with the rest of it, but the whole thing's a pretty informal affair in any case.

I helped the Monacorans, they are helping me. What's not to approve? You monsters are supporting known commiters of genocide. If the Unification lets that go through, what willl you powermongers do next?

Posted: 2004-09-12 08:29pm
by Rogue 9
Straha wrote:
frigidmagi wrote:That's is moronic Nitram, the declarations were at the Hajr, not the Unification. The Unification invaded the Alliance, not the other way around.
Wrong, we moved to help the Ousters after you declared war on by passing through my teritory. We're merely counter-invading.
Wrong. That fleet you're babbling about simply doesn't exist, as an examination of public records and independent freighters' sensor logs would tell you.

Posted: 2004-09-12 08:29pm
by Rogue 9
SirNitram wrote:
Rogue 9 wrote:
SirNitram wrote: The Unification started the war? I seem to remember the first declarations of war being from the Alliance. Seems to me it's obvious who escalated this. :D
We declared war on the Ousters, not the Unification, for the reason of the Ousters attempting genocide against an Alliance member. So yes, it is obvious. The Unification jumped in with a casus belli that cannot be true because they're vulturing opportunists. So the Unification escalated this war. Now shove it up your ass.
Oh, grow up and stop acting like a spoiled child. You attacked someone with diplomatic ties to other groups en masse and didn't think there'd be consequences? Don't be a retard.
Well if they're commiting FUCKING GENOCIDE, yes!

Posted: 2004-09-12 08:30pm
by Thirdfain
Wrong. That fleet you're babbling about simply doesn't exist, as an examination of public records and independent freighters' sensor logs would tell you.
What's that? These records indicate a large portion of your fleet was out of port, with large ammounts of supplie and like. They could have been anywhere. Elysium? Veitha? Monacora?

Posted: 2004-09-12 08:30pm
by Straha
Rogue 9 wrote:
Straha wrote:
frigidmagi wrote:That's is moronic Nitram, the declarations were at the Hajr, not the Unification. The Unification invaded the Alliance, not the other way around.
Wrong, we moved to help the Ousters after you declared war on by passing through my teritory. We're merely counter-invading.
Wrong. That fleet you're babbling about simply doesn't exist, as an examination of public records and independent freighters' sensor logs would tell you.
No, Space is a huge place, our destroyer happened to be where there were no other ships at that time, and we saw you pass through, and then move in a hostile manner against us, forcing my destroyer to retreat. Just as our Destroyer's logs will show you.

Posted: 2004-09-12 08:31pm
by Rogue 9
Thirdfain wrote:
Wrong. That fleet you're babbling about simply doesn't exist, as an examination of public records and independent freighters' sensor logs would tell you.
What's that? These records indicate a large portion of your fleet was out of port, with large ammounts of supplie and like. They could have been anywhere. Elysium? Veitha? Monacora?
Except everybody knows that they were halfway to Elysium. They couldn't have been in Monacora and then gotten to Elysium in less than a day. All our ships are accounted for and you know it.

Posted: 2004-09-12 08:32pm
by Thirdfain
Well if they're commiting FUCKING GENOCIDE, yes!
Genocide? It was a legitimate counterblow to an attack on our home soil! I seem to recall you happily slaughtering the Overseer. Apparantly, revenge is cool when it's little Ouster kids who die, but when it's human children, well, that's no good!

Racist bastard.

Posted: 2004-09-12 08:33pm
by Rogue 9
Straha wrote:
Rogue 9 wrote:
Straha wrote: Wrong, we moved to help the Ousters after you declared war on by passing through my teritory. We're merely counter-invading.
Wrong. That fleet you're babbling about simply doesn't exist, as an examination of public records and independent freighters' sensor logs would tell you.
No, Space is a huge place, our destroyer happened to be where there were no other ships at that time, and we saw you pass through, and then move in a hostile manner against us, forcing my destroyer to retreat. Just as our Destroyer's logs will show you.
Leave the lies IC, okay? All our ships are accounted for. We are prepared to prove this. If the Veithan and Ravenlock diplomats would talk to my ambassadors, I'd be proving this.