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You are evenly matched by the Krell fleet alone, and the Monacorans tip the balance!Shields on vessels have just started to fail. SO only a few. However, they havent been concentrating fire either. Mine have.
(And damn it, Krell DREADNOUGHTS are more powerful as per his post. Not his entire fleet, save for that, I outnumber them numerically)
Yes, I know there is no precedent for that. And yes, I don't think that a Lance shot should be going through multiple ships. However, what many people want to know is how those destroyers(?) got in the way of the Lance shots. Do you have a very tight formation where every capital ship is screened by escorts? And if so, how are your ships firing back at the Krell?Alyrium Denryle wrote:But there is no precedent for them going through a target, and hitting another. It has never been done. They ay burrow into a hull, nd then explode, but never ever ever have they passed through another shielded ship, to strike a target behind.Marcao wrote:gentlemen:
we are using a "if declared in an OOB and accepted by peer review it works" system. As such, at this point Bugsby could claim that Lances fired super-compressed thrash to the point where he is firing a little black hole, or a super-duper chicken gun. As long as the effect was the same, it hardly matters. Lance weapons are respected as the most badass weapons in the game because Bugsby has taken so many penalties to their usage.
And never ever ever has another ship been able to leap in front of one to take a hit meant for an entirely different target!Alyrium Denryle wrote:But there is no precedent for them going through a target, and hitting another. It has never been done. They ay burrow into a hull, nd then explode, but never ever ever have they passed through another shielded ship, to strike a target behind.
No problem.Stormbringer wrote:I wish to apologize for the lack of postings. I've been really busy and a bit frazzled. Battle posting take a good long while for me and take a fair amount of creative effort. Sorry if this delays the action but I'm battling real life at the moment.
He may be using a different class-designation scheme. I placed my frigates under cruiser-weight vessels because they're heavier than the traditional conception of the frigate.Rogue 9 wrote:Note: For some odd reason, he listed frigates and destroyers under cruiser weight vessels.
I beg to differ. DC cores were quite acceptable, until I decided to use it in a non standard way... They had been in an OOB for several months at that point, with no complaints. And given the fact that I never specified what sort of fuel it used, could have used some sort of exotic matter, which very well would have prevented a whole lot of complaints. So declared in an OOB and accepted by peer review isn't really a valid argument...Marcao wrote:gentlemen:
we are using a "if declared in an OOB and accepted by peer review it works" system. As such, at this point Bugsby could claim that Lances fired super-compressed thrash to the point where he is firing a little black hole, or a super-duper chicken gun. As long as the effect was the same, it hardly matters. Lance weapons are respected as the most badass weapons in the game because Bugsby has taken so many penalties to their usage.
DC cores were never as accepted or as widely debated as lances were. If I recall, SirNitram said that if he had known exactly how you planned on using them, he would have complained. Personally, DC cores smack of "all of the strengths of M/AM with none of the weaknesses" and that more than anything else is why they were smacked down. DC cores did not have the same strengths and weaknesses of lances, and as such they cannot be adequately compared to Lances.Beowulf wrote:I beg to differ. DC cores were quite acceptable, until I decided to use it in a non standard way... They had been in an OOB for several months at that point, with no complaints. And given the fact that I never specified what sort of fuel it used, could have used some sort of exotic matter, which very well would have prevented a whole lot of complaints. So declared in an OOB and accepted by peer review isn't really a valid argument...Marcao wrote:gentlemen:
we are using a "if declared in an OOB and accepted by peer review it works" system. As such, at this point Bugsby could claim that Lances fired super-compressed thrash to the point where he is firing a little black hole, or a super-duper chicken gun. As long as the effect was the same, it hardly matters. Lance weapons are respected as the most badass weapons in the game because Bugsby has taken so many penalties to their usage.
There's a bit of a difference there. Things can and will be put into OOBs that may not follow the rules or be acceptable. This is where the concept of peer review comes in (and ultimately, mod review). Reading every OOB isn't always possible, and thinking of every possibile use of every assorted tech declared isn't always going to happen, even with multiple mods watching the OOB thread. So when a move is pulled that is cheesy, unfair, or powergamey, the move and the tech that was used to justify it comes up under review. This happened to you and your DC cores, and the DC cores failed the test. Thus, the system works.Beowulf wrote: So declared in an OOB and accepted by peer review isn't really a valid argument...
Not true:Alyrium Denryle wrote:However, they havent been concentrating fire either.
Santiago wrote:target lasers on the DNs
From two succsessive posts. I've been concentrating fire for a pretty long time.Santiago wrote:Target the big ships
Uhm, I did. Check the thread.Alyrium Denryle wrote:Alright, I will post dreadnought damage. Now post fucking casualties, you get nothing out of me until you do so.
Now, Magi was backing up. You're going forward. You may close to weapons range eventually, but not before taking tons of hits as he missile fades you for as long as he can. Meanwhile, your point defense just magically eradicated every missile and fighter he tossed at you? Come on. Let's be realistic here. Point defense helps, but it only does so much, and first strikes always hurt, especially when your point defense has to split its fire between missiles and fighters.Darksider wrote:"Admiral, we are almost point blank with the enemy. Their jamming is of no further help to them"frigidmagi wrote: "Back us up, maintain seperation of missle range and keep firing damn it, give him all we got!"