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Posted: 2006-11-05 11:38pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
Shinova wrote:EDIT: But this is really going off-topic. But it really is your fault, Spanky, for making this kind of reaction every time I post something about any of these games. But I'm sure you're not doing this out of some sort of vendetta against me or anything like that. Right?
It's not a vendetta, I'm just teasing and making fun of you. You make it too easy sometimes. And others "kick it down" because it's such an easy thing to make fun of. It only goes back and forth like this because you never let it slide.
Shinova wrote:It'd be nice if there were a usergroup for this kind of stuff so I don't have to put up with the rest of you guys.
That wouldn't be very effective, because the simple fact seems to be that only a handful of people on the board regularly play visual novels: the only ones I can name off the top of my head are you and Beowulf.
Posted: 2006-11-05 11:59pm
by Shinova
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:It's not a vendetta, I'm just teasing and making fun of you. You make it too easy sometimes.
That's cause you often come off as some sort of close-minded, egotistical, holier-than-thou bigot. You're like one of those people whom others can't tell if they're joking or being serious.
"A funeral is a ceremony for those who cannot let go of their feelings for the deceased to achieve such detachment."
Interesting.
Posted: 2006-11-06 12:01am
by Spanky The Dolphin
....
A bigot because I make fun of you over video game pornography.
Yeah...
I think the reason that you can't tell when I'm joking or being serious is because you're an idiot.
Posted: 2006-11-06 12:01am
by DPDarkPrimus
So, how much does this game retail for, and convince us why we should spend that much on it?

Posted: 2006-11-06 12:01am
by Beowulf
What? I don't play porno games!

Really, although I appear to know alot about them, all I've seen is the anime based off of them. I've never actually played any.
Posted: 2006-11-06 12:05am
by Spanky The Dolphin
Beowulf wrote:What? I don't play porno games!

Really, although I appear to know alot about them, all I've seen is the anime based off of them. I've never actually played any.
Oh, so it's really just Shinova who plays these here? Lovely.

Posted: 2006-11-06 12:09am
by Shinova
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:....
A bigot because I make fun of you over video game pornography.
Yeah...
I think the reason that you can't tell when I'm joking or being serious is because you're an idiot.
Oh I would hardly be calling you a bigot if it was all about these games and nothing else.
Posted: 2006-11-06 12:16am
by Spanky The Dolphin
But I bet it still involved relatively petty and insignificant junk rather than anything major in real life, doesn't it?
Taking the oppertunity to pont out when you're being a tremendous spaz is not bigotry, but I guess that counts as antagonism when you don't have any real rivals inside of your bubble.
Posted: 2006-11-06 04:52am
by mizuno
I heard about the translation patch last night and looked around the japanese yahoo auctions to buy a legit second hand copy since it is out of print.. holy crap it is going to $200+! If Type Moon re releases the game I'll snap up a legit copy asap so the money will go to them instead of of greedy collecters but until then.. yarr.
So far it has been an interesting experience, this is the first visual novel I've actually played although I started but didn't get very far into the Kinetic novel Planetarium. I've put a good 3 hours into the game and I'm barely a third through the Arcueid True Ending, this is gonna take a while. So far I find Shiki alot less annoying then in the anime and I appreciate how fleshed out all the characters and situations are but at times all the reading gets damn tedious and I have to take constant quick breaks.
I think some people have overhyped the game a bit, I'm enjoying myself but I'm not feeling the urge to stay up all night and skip tomorrow's classes in order to finish it.
Posted: 2006-11-06 06:34am
by Neko_Oni
I own the two most recent TYPE-MOON
eroge. Not that I've ever got up to anything resembling a porno scene. Seriously the Japanese in those games is really difficult. Even some of the Japanese people I talked to had a hard time translating sentences (I didn't let them know where I'd gotten where said sentences were from of course

)
Posted: 2006-11-06 07:31am
by Archaic`
IIRC, the original Tsukihime was sold as a doujin game at Comike, with a very low print run, explaining why the cost can get so high, and why so few are ever auctioned. Really, with this game, you may as well just pirate it, and then use the cash you saved to buy a stack of Tsukihime merchandise. It's not like the creators are being supported by you purchasing a 2nd hand copy anyway, as mizuno has already mentioned.
Posted: 2006-11-06 08:06am
by Andrew J.
I've played Phoenix Wright and I've also heard it compared to a book (in terms of its linear nature). I'd hesitate to say it's exactly the same as a visual novel...maybe a Choose Your own Adventure?
Posted: 2006-11-06 09:45am
by Sharp-kun
DPDarkPrimus wrote:Shinova wrote:
Read about Phoenix Wright a little bit.
Conclusion: definetly a visual novel.

Own and beat Phoenix Wright completely.
Conclusion: Shut the fuck up, space cadet.
As have I and my best description of it is an interactive novel. I felt like I was playing a manga, except I had to fill in bits correctly.
Andrew J. wrote:maybe a Choose Your own Adventure?
I'd disagree, since the game is essentially linear.
Posted: 2006-11-06 02:55pm
by Admiral Valdemar
Shinova wrote:No, no, that game's called Melty Blood. It's a fighting game based on Tsukihime, which is the original visual novel game that started the whole thing.
(And besides, why would you need translation to play a no-brainer 2D fighting game?

)
Awwww. -_-
YAY!
Posted: 2006-11-06 06:53pm
by Hamel
A cat is fine, too.
Posted: 2006-11-06 08:42pm
by DPDarkPrimus
Sharp-kun wrote:
Andrew J. wrote:maybe a Choose Your own Adventure?
I'd disagree, since the game is essentially linear.
Like most adventure games.

Posted: 2006-11-06 10:10pm
by Shinova
Hamel wrote:A cat is fine, too.
Stick you POnOs in my vOgOna and...and... JAM IT IN!!!
Posted: 2006-11-07 07:41am
by Andrew J.
Sharp-kun wrote:Andrew J. wrote:maybe a Choose Your own Adventure?
I'd disagree, since the game is essentially linear.
In a CYA you get eaten by a monster or something if you choose "incorrectly." So it's like a CYA with only one right path and a bunch of dead ends.
(Hey, I never said it was a perfect comparison.)
Posted: 2006-11-08 04:00am
by Ford Prefect
Shinova wrote:Hamel wrote:A cat is fine, too.
Stick you POnOs in my vOgOna and...and... JAM IT IN!!!
You missed two Js.
Ultimately, the best thing about Tsukihime is
Melty Blood. As Admiral Valdemar has noted, rocket powered cats are legendary. Though Neko Arc Chaos fucks Neko Arc's shit up, yo.
That said, it might be interesting to see what exactly happens; I was
planning to buy the anime myself, but I keep on getting warned off it by fans. I'm more of a
Fate/stay night fan though. Of course, by the time I get to see
Unlimited Blade Works and
Heaven's Feel it will be four million years in the future.
Posted: 2006-11-08 04:30am
by Shinova
Probably.
Tsukihime has about 3500 pages of text, and Fate/Stay Night is supposedly at least twice as long as that.
Goodness sakes.
The Tsukihime anime is probably decent for someone who has no knowledge about the original material. What got fans in a bunch was that the original just had so much more content and fleshing-out over the anime. Meh, with only 13 episodes and a barely competent staff, it was to be expected.
FSN anime, on the other hand, I hear is quite good.
Posted: 2006-11-08 06:29am
by Ford Prefect
Shinova wrote:Probably.
Tsukihime has about 3500 pages of text, and Fate/Stay Night is supposedly at least twice as long as that.
Goodness sakes.
Jesus H. Christ on a motorcycle. I knew it was text heavy, but ... whoa.
The Tsukihime anime is probably decent for someone who has no knowledge about the original material. What got fans in a bunch was that the original just had so much more content and fleshing-out over the anime. Meh, with only 13 episodes and a barely competent staff, it was to be expected.
Arcuied Brunestud running away from some random with a pocket knife doesn't help.
FSN anime, on the other hand, I hear is quite good.
Episode 14.
Be there.
Posted: 2006-11-08 09:09am
by The Yosemite Bear
Shinova wrote:Spanky The Dolphin wrote:It's not a vendetta, I'm just teasing and making fun of you. You make it too easy sometimes.
That's cause you often come off as some sort of close-minded, egotistical, holier-than-thou bigot. You're like one of those people whom others can't tell if they're joking or being serious.
"A funeral is a ceremony for those who cannot let go of their feelings for the deceased to achieve such detachment."
Interesting.
I'll have to chime in on Space Cadet's POV too.
Hell I remember the time I brought up going through shit I had packed away when I was in HIGH SCHOOL, and finding a ton of unlabled VHS tapes, and 3.5 floppy disks. Turned out to be my whole fansub collection including two tapes of Creme Lemon (the mojority of the tapes were, riding bean, Harlok, Fist of the Northstar, Char's Counter Attack, Gall Force, D. and Ako.) Spanky accused me of being into Kiddy Porn. The 15 3.5's contained a bunch of my old homework assignments, some RPG utilitys I had coded my self, and oh yeah 3 disks of p0rn, including one of the most vile Robotech stuff (I can't beleive I hated minmei that much)
Posted: 2006-11-08 09:50am
by Beowulf
THe FSN anime kinda dies in the last couple episodes. It's as if they didn't realize how much needed to go into the ending.
Posted: 2006-11-08 10:23am
by General Zod
Beowulf wrote:THe FSN anime kinda dies in the last couple episodes. It's as if they didn't realize how much needed to go into the ending.
It also scrunches a lot of information from the game. There's a bunch of game characters and background information you never really get to hear about or even see. Plus it only really touches on the Fate scenario, with a bit of mixing from Heavens Feel and Unlimited Blade Works. Though it largely ignores the last two.

Posted: 2006-11-08 10:42am
by LadyTevar
Spanky and Shinova are reminding me of Megatokyo's Largo picking on Piro about his gaming habits.
