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Posted: 2006-11-16 08:51am
by VT-16
Projectile weapons are great, but drawing a P90 with blaster bolts coming out of it is just plain lazy.
Is it an exact design or is it modified slightly, like stuff in the movies? (I'm no gun expert.)
Not even the most abundant, worthless troops of any real first-world military would be used in such a pointless tactic.
Hmm... Maybe they miscalculated and began charging with tanks, without tanks?

Or, maybe not.
Posted: 2006-11-16 09:49am
by Winston Blake
VT-16 wrote:Projectile weapons are great, but drawing a P90 with blaster bolts coming out of it is just plain lazy.
Is it an exact design or is it modified slightly, like stuff in the movies? (I'm no gun expert.)

The stuff in the movies was great, but this isn't modelling it on a real gun - it's just a cut and paste.
Not even the most abundant, worthless troops of any real first-world military would be used in such a pointless tactic.
Hmm... Maybe they miscalculated and began charging with tanks, without tanks?

Or, maybe not.
We can call it an isolated screw-up, with the in-universe rationalising people proposed previously. Maybe that sort of 'over the top' style is just how comics are done.
Posted: 2006-11-16 12:47pm
by VT-16
Comparing the two, there's definitely some minor adjustments to Jedi's gun. Some sort of small sight on top of the gun and the muzzle is split in five pieces. But it's a lot less than most other SW conversions, so you're right, a bit lazy. :P
Maybe that sort of 'over the top' style is just how comics are done.
Oh, definitely. Comics don't have the same amount of "room" to explore as books do, and I've noticed similar events taking pages to describe in a book, that would go by in a few panels in a comic. For all we know, the charging troops (which aren't that many, bodies and all) are just there to divert attention from the tanks' arrival.
Posted: 2006-11-26 04:10am
by GunDoctor
[quote="VT-16"]Comparing the two, there's definitely some minor adjustments to Jedi's gun. Some sort of small sight on top of the gun and the muzzle is split in five pieces. But it's a lot less than most other SW conversions, so you're right, a bit lazy.

/quote]
Maybe, but how much would you have to change to get rid of the P90's distinctive shape? There aren't a lot of firearms that look like that.
Posted: 2006-11-28 04:23am
by Cykeisme
GunDoctor wrote:VT-16 wrote:Comparing the two, there's definitely some minor adjustments to Jedi's gun. Some sort of small sight on top of the gun and the muzzle is split in five pieces. But it's a lot less than most other SW conversions, so you're right, a bit lazy.
Maybe, but how much would you have to change to get rid of the P90's distinctive shape? There aren't a lot of firearms that look like that.
Definitely.
Blasters looking like conversions of real firearms are part of the look and feel of SW, but not only is the P90 too distinctive, it doesn't have the look of a real firearm (yes, I know, you know what I mean).
Posted: 2006-11-28 05:29am
by VT-16
That's probably why it was chosen in the first place, because of its "exotic" look. It's canon now, anyways, even if the artist doesn't use it any more. :P
Posted: 2006-11-28 06:59am
by Major Maxillary
General Schatten wrote:Not really, blasters have an advantage over slugthrowers since the armies that use them don't have to design their weapons around a specific kind of round, using power packs, instead each and every weapon can be tuned for optimum efficiency with the projectile it fires rather than worrying about ammo compatibility.
but in the end regardless of powerpack or gas, all blasters shoot the same thing; some bolt of energy or whatever it is that burns and makes a tiny explosion.
Bullets, however, may not have the logistical ease of energy weapons, but they make up for it in flexibility. Take the .50 M2HB; it's standard round is a jacketed lead slug with a tungsten sub penetrator. it also fired Armor piercing incendiary, high explosive, and the swedes even made a special high explosive armor piercing incendiary round that gives the .50 the firepower of a 20mm hispano.
likewise; a simple shotgun can use anything from .00 buck and ball to flechettes to 1 oz slugs, to small 25mm grenades.
Armor piercing, incendiary, jacketed hollow point, high explosive, frangible, tumbling, and by no means obsolete the lead slug.
If you can crimp it onto a cartridge you can fire it from your slugthrower.
then there's the psycological aspect of seeing your buddy's blood leak out the hole in his armor, or watching a soldier's head turn into a fine red mist.
Posted: 2006-11-28 12:28pm
by NecronLord
Major Maxillary wrote:then there's the psycological aspect of seeing your buddy's blood leak out the hole in his armor, or watching a soldier's head turn into a fine red mist.
Blasters can do that too. Indeed, I think it happens to the entire torso of a clone shot by a dwarf spider droid in the background of RotS.
Posted: 2006-11-28 04:51pm
by 000
What scene did that occur in?
Posted: 2006-11-28 04:58pm
by Lord Revan
000 wrote:What scene did that occur in?
the Kashyyyk attack.
Posted: 2006-11-28 09:03pm
by Major Maxillary
NecronLord wrote:Major Maxillary wrote:then there's the psycological aspect of seeing your buddy's blood leak out the hole in his armor, or watching a soldier's head turn into a fine red mist.
Blasters can do that too. Indeed, I think it happens to the entire torso of a clone shot by a dwarf spider droid in the background of RotS.
True, but that's a much bigger gun. pretty much the equivalent of a tank cannon. I'm talking about man portable weapons. You don't see an E-web sever a mans arm like a .50 can, do you?
When you get right down to it, neither is better than the other, they each have their strengths.
Posted: 2006-11-28 09:46pm
by 000
A BlasTech DH-17 can reduce a helmeted Stormtrooper's head to "pieces of armor, bone, and flesh flying in all directions," according to Star Wars: From the Adventures of Luke Skywalker.
Posted: 2006-11-29 08:38pm
by Major Maxillary
000 wrote:A BlasTech DH-17 can reduce a helmeted Stormtrooper's head to "pieces of armor, bone, and flesh flying in all directions," according to Star Wars: From the Adventures of Luke Skywalker.
That's awesome.