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Do you want to answer the question? Since when can the Eclipse punch through any planetary shield and kill the planet with one shot? Hey, don't bother backing up your claims or anything. Of course it's going to be effective against unshielded planets - anything is - but the idea that it can DS-style show up at Alderaan and breach the shield and kill everyone is a new one.
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Actually all that is said on the Superlaser's mounted on the Eclipse and the Soveriegns is that it was 2/3 the power of the original, but ONLY cracking the planetary surface.
And since we've never seen the effect and the statements are contradictory(2/3 of the DS beam is far fucking more then merely cracking the planet's surface.), it's rather hard to say what the beam does except that it's stronger then most single shot weapons in the Empire's arsenal.
And since we've never seen the effect and the statements are contradictory(2/3 of the DS beam is far fucking more then merely cracking the planet's surface.), it's rather hard to say what the beam does except that it's stronger then most single shot weapons in the Empire's arsenal.
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Well I've never read the sourcebooks, but the idea a 17km ship has a gun that can either cycle much faster than DS1 and carry enough power to defeat a defended planet in a few shots, or is simply enough to kill in one go, strikes me as stupid. All I had heard is that it can fuck up continents (stands to reason) and of course it's going to do something to shields - but defeat powerful shields that can stave of hundreds or thousands of ships? Doesn't that make the DS1 and DS2 far oversized for their role and a waste of time?
EDIT - if some sourcebook claims the Eclipse weapon is 2/3s the output of the DS1 gun, surely that means it's cycle time at that output is going to be far, far longer?
EDIT - if some sourcebook claims the Eclipse weapon is 2/3s the output of the DS1 gun, surely that means it's cycle time at that output is going to be far, far longer?
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Oh no....we never get cycling, and to assume faster cycling like you've said is absurd to new heights. I was merely mentioning that it didn't come close to a DS blast in any shape or form. In fact the DS2 was showing minutes level for mere ships and was said to be around some hours for a planetary shot that killed Alderaan.Stark wrote:Well I've never read the sourcebooks, but the idea a 17km ship has a gun that can either cycle much faster than DS1 and carry enough power to defeat a defended planet in a few shots, or is simply enough to kill in one go, strikes me as stupid. All I had heard is that it can fuck up continents (stands to reason) and of course it's going to do something to shields - but defeat powerful shields that can stave of hundreds or thousands of ships? Doesn't that make the DS1 and DS2 far oversized for their role and a waste of time?
In fact given what we've seen of canon, a heavy shield, like Alderaan's should be able to stave of the Eclipse beam easily.
Also, the DS1 and DS2 were a bit silly, but they were perfect for terror platforms. Militarily they were dumbass ideas, but to strike fear into your opponent and demonstrate the idea of "Fuck with us, and get this shoved into your ass.". They filled their roles perfectly.
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[quote="General Schatten"Most definately the Death Star can target the fleet with every turbolaser on any given hemisphere, given the size of the Death Star this is tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of turbolasers being brought to bear on any single side of the Death Star.[/'quote]
True, but doesn't the DS have to get closer to Yavin to do that?
True, but doesn't the DS have to get closer to Yavin to do that?
Yeah, even if the turbolasers' aim isn't good, the DS can simply send a wall of fire, like Thrawn did to the NR Assault Frigate at Sluis Van.It's already known that the only reason Luke destroyed the Death Star was because Tarkin didn't start letting go the Death Star's hordes of TIE/ln TIE Fighters, with the TIEs flying against the X-Wings and Y-Wings and the Death Star obliterating entire portions of the fleet in one volley, defeat is unthinkable, the Rebels only choice would be a retreat via hyperspace (Which is another reason why I prefer the Eclipse and Sovereign Star Dreadnaughts over the Death Star, they have Gravity Well Projectors).